DC Universe Classics Figure Frustration

that hawk man is beautiful!

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Originally Posted by Tiger-Boy

Now you can take Sir Laser-lot, take the chest jewel out, insert a "S" logo on the chest, change the head and hand for a human one (like Flipshot, with painted black hair), and you got a Superman...

DC in invading ETERNIA!!! :hmeek:

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You wouldn't even need to use Flipshot's head. With a little customizing you could take a Superman head in the styles of Ed McGuinness or Jim Lee or Ed Benes or even Frank Quitely from DC Direct and put it on a MOTU body. But, I'm sure if we wait it out we'll get a Superman with an awesome 4H MOTU body.

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Originally Posted by DC_WARLORD

I sure would like to see that happen!! :hmgrin:

The WARLORD would fit in perfectly with MOTU characters!

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Adding Warlord to the MOTU line sounds like a match made in heaven.

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Originally Posted by Spyder121

All right... as many have pointed out, Batman's face sculpt is based on Miller's drawings, hence the look. But I'm astounded at how many people on here have not read "The Dark Knight, Returns." Don't get me wrong. Not everything Miller writes is gold. However, a few folks on here seem to qualify all of his work in a less-than-stellar light without ever reading his earlier good stories. "The Dark Knight Returns" is outstanding, as well as "Batman: Year One." Before making up your minds on anything, you should at least be informed on it. So go read it. If you dislike it, then say whatever you want to say. But don't say something is bad without having read it. That's just demonstrating your ignorance.

As far as this toy version of Batman, being a MOTUC fan, I love it and hope to see Superman added to the mix.

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Funny thing about people mentioning "Batman: Year One" over and again, I KNEW that title sounded familiar! So I went though my graphic novels and found it! Right next to my "Batman: The Killing Joke"! This is AWESOME! Now to find "The Dark Knight Returns" and add it to my collection. Batman has always been my favorite DC character.

EDIT: Just found & bought TDKR from Amazon. Can't wait!

i love it. ordered two for me and a friend. can't wait!!!

oh, and if they are using motuc parts for other figures, wouldn't tha make more money for motuc? either lowering motuc costs and/or providing more income for tooling/accessories?

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Originally Posted by stprime

i love it. ordered two for me and a friend. can't wait!!!

oh, and if they are using motuc parts for other figures, wouldn't tha make more money for motuc? either lowering motuc costs and/or providing more income for tooling/accessories?

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Which if it were possible is one reason why I would 100% suppose the use of motuc parts for other lines. Anything they can do to lower tooling costs is good news for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I have seen it all. But we get screwed again. That's all my point is.

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Oh come on dude...read an economics book or something that can explain production costs to you.

It has nothing to do with getting "screwed"...it's a matter of "make more=lower cost per piece". How is that getting "screwed"?

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Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I know. But still that's a $25.00 motuc figure at the end of the day. I'm glad they are cheating. Make no mistake I'm not complaining at it's price. Just saying that's a $25.00 motuc figure.

I do hope to get a Superman, Robin, and a Joker figure as well. Then it would really make it speacil.

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No, IF it were a MOTUC figure produced at MOTUC quotas, it would be $25. But it's at a much higher quota, so it cost them less to make.

I don't know if you just lack comprehension skills, but it's pretty straightforward.

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Originally Posted by Hoffman

No, IF it were a MOTUC figure produced at MOTUC quotas, it would be $25. But it's at a much higher quota, so it cost them less to make.

I don't know if you just lack comprehension skills, but it's pretty straightforward.

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I'm still shaking my head at how one cannot understand this simple concept...

Hey, that's a 30th anniversary figure I would have rather had than Spector.

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Originally Posted by Replikor

anyone else having Batman the Animated series flashbacks from the "Legends of the Dark Night" episode and hearing Michael Ironsides voice when u look at that figure? lol...

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that episode is based of the DKR this figure comes from so i imagine it would

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Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I have seen it all. But we get screwed again. That's all my point is.

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Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I know. But still that's a $25.00 motuc figure at the end of the day. I'm glad they are cheating. Make no mistake I'm not complaining at it's price. Just saying that's a $25.00 motuc figure.

I do hope to get a Superman, Robin, and a Joker figure as well. Then it would really make it speacil.

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No its a DCU figure made in larger numbers, If you buy a can of soda for dollar at a store that has a six pack of soda for 5 you wouldn't say "hey this can should be 83 cents!". the larger the order the cheaper the price, the cheaper they pay to make the cheaper they charge us a consumers.

QUICK! Someone look! Are his shoulders backwards???


:hmlol::sklol::ellol::holol::shlol::calol:

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Originally Posted by Big Country

I'm still shaking my head at how one cannot understand this simple concept...

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Not everyone can be as savvy as ya 'll on economics bro. No need to be mean big country. For the record I personally understand what you mean.

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Originally Posted by DC_WARLORD

I sure would like to see that happen!! :hmgrin:

The WARLORD would fit in perfectly with MOTU characters!

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I have been waiting for this myself... seems like a no brainer!

Looks amazing, and if it is closer in scale, I don't care if they used MOTUC parts or not. Bring on Superman......

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Originally Posted by Big Papa

That horrible constipated face on the MOTUC Batman is based on the art work for the Dark Knight Returns, a series originally published in 1986 written and drawn by some guy named Frank Miller.......Probably one of if not the greatest comic series ever published.

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Originally Posted by SCB

It changed Batman ever since. Plus the animated movie is coming to DVD/Blu-Ray soon.

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Originally Posted by Big Country

I'm beyond amazed at the number of people in this thread the haven't read The Dark Knight Returns...

"Ugly face..."
"Too big..."


I pity your lack of great-comic reading!!:hmeek::hmeek::hmeek:

Next, I'm going to find out that nobody has ever read Watchmen...

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Originally Posted by Megalodon

What is a Watchman??? :hmroll: :skgrin:

Alot of people don't read anymore that's sad...

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Originally Posted by Piccolo Daimaoh

Have you guys even read the Dark Knight Returns? He may not have been that ripped but he was definitely that big. Batman was a big, hulking demon in the Dark Knight Returns. Big Country is right, maybe the most important Batman story in the last 30 years and we have people in a Batman thread who have never read it. Yet they feel compelled to let us know how little they know about Batman by dissing how he looks. Boggles the mind.

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Originally Posted by musclor

Hands down, the best Batman GN ever published. Excelltent story.

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Originally Posted by musclor

Absolutely fantastic stories. Well worth borrowing them from the local library. Well worth buying them in my opinion, but definitely check them out. They are both in my top five graphic novels...

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Originally Posted by Lewd_Squirrel

Oh, & I agree with Piccolo, both Lh & DV are GREAT reads, so is the other Batman comic, by them, can't remember what it's called, atm, but I have it, somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Big Country

We're all geeks here. And for a geek to have not read THE book that changed comics as a whole is like a preacher saying "Book of Revelation? What's that???"!!! Two comics that did more to change the medium than any other works...pity that they could have been missed out on! They should be owned by everyone that can afford it!

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Originally Posted by Piccolo Daimaoh

Absolutely. The first time I read TDKR it blew my mind. It came out in an era when most Batman media was Adam West and Super Friends. It made you wonder how far you could go with a comic book. And to have never read Dark Knight Returns? You'd think after seeing Burton's Batman in 1989 people would have rushed in droves to read it. It's in libraries now for crying in the sand. Saying in defense that this is a He-Man forum really paints a bad picture of He-Man fans. Like we have no other interests. I'm a big MOTU fan but I seem to be able to get out from under my rock once in a while. :hmwink:

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Originally Posted by Spyder121

All right... as many have pointed out, Batman's face sculpt is based on Miller's drawings, hence the look. But I'm astounded at how many people on here have not read "The Dark Knight, Returns." Don't get me wrong. Not everything Miller writes is gold. However, a few folks on here seem to qualify all of his work in a less-than-stellar light without ever reading his earlier good stories. "The Dark Knight Returns" is outstanding, as well as "Batman: Year One."

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Originally Posted by Robzy

Well, it is a MOTU forum, not a Batman site :hmwink:

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I am an unrepentant non-DC and only casual MOTU fan, but even I bought and read The Dark Knight Returns. I heard that it was a masterpiece and bought it to see what the hype was all about. I got to say it was well deserved. I'm one of the last individuals to recommend a DC book but this one is worth at least a read if not a purchase.

As for the figures, as much as I like the story, I don't really feel the need to own the figure. Great for those that want one but it's not for me.

Looks cool, if that bat symbol is just a paint app rather than sculpted in to the chest it might make for a good broader waisted / armoured character

The Dark Knight Returns is the single greatest comic book ever created. Daredevil Born Again is a close second....TDKR revolutionized comics bigtime. Anyway...if you haven't read it you should :skgrin:

As for the figure, I am already sold :skwink:

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Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel

I am an unrepentant non-DC and only casual MOTU fan, but even I bought and read The Dark Knight Returns. I heard that it was a masterpiece and bought it to see what the hype was all about. I got to say it was well deserved. I'm one the last individuals to recommend a DC book but this one is worth at least a read if not a purchase.

As for the figures, as much as I like the story, I don't really feel the need to own the figure. Great for those that want one but it's not for me..

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Support the line!:skwink:

What's the name of this figure?! Where can I buy it? I can't use toys r us website cause I'm Italian and I know they don't ship internationally!

OK, so they're making a Dark Knight Returns Batman with a MOTUC buck. OK, Now I want a Dark Knight Returns Superman! with the same use of the MOTUC buck!

I totally understand economics, supply and demand. I did go to collage. :hmwink:


Ok. I understand it's a dcuc figure higher production lower cost. But it's a motuc buck that would cost the motuc fan $25.00. That's all I'm saying.

This will be the first Batman figure I'll buy for my own collection in many years.

The head/facesculpt is spot on. I would think everyone here loves Frank Miller due to 300. And Robocop2.

Okay, maybe I'm alone in my knowledge Robocop2 is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time...

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Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I totally understand economics, supply and demand. I did go to collage. :hmwink:


Ok. I understand it's a dcuc figure higher production lower cost. But it's a motuc buck that would cost the motuc fan $25.00. That's all I'm saying.

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It is NOT just a buck.

It's a buck, and a newly sculpted head, gauntlets, greaves, cape, etc...

It's paint apps and packaging.

So no, I'm sorry, it's nowhere NEAR being the same thing.


Which Collage did you attend? Was it a family picture collage? Or a sporting events collage?

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Originally Posted by Big Country

It is NOT just a buck.

It's a buck, and a newly sculpted head, gauntlets, greaves, cape, etc...

It's paint apps and packaging.

So no, I'm sorry, it's nowhere NEAR being the same thing.

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But so would a motuc figure. Find out how many of these are made vs. a motuc figure being made. Hey maybe the production of the motuc is more at a higher cost. I don't know and I know you don't. Cause Mattel dosent kiss and tell. But they already have more then half of this batman finished using motuc parts. So yea that right there can help the cost being lower.

Dude I'm not fighting with you. Im saying my piece and that's the end of my end. You have the right to disagree and please do so. It's your god given right.

But it's still a motuc figure. Buck. Toy. What ever you want to call it.

So if this can happen, why can't DC budget money or resources be diverted to MOTUC? If DC utilizes these parts then Mattel Management should be finding more ways to do this and justify MOTUC's continued existence. I at first didn't think it was the same until I looked really close and the musculature in the legs and shoulders are identical. I wish they would do more characters in this manner as well.