Horde Prime & Horde Supreme Speculation and Discussion

Do you think that Mattel will make a Horde Supreme figure, and what would he look like. The only images we have is of the UK Magazine of Horde Prime, which i'm preatty sure is off limits and i know alot of people are 50/50 on, and the Filmation one, which really can't be made into a figure. But yet he is an important part of MOTU lore and possibly the most evil being in the universe. The other question is that are they the same people. I see Horde Prime as the UK version, but almost like the wizard of oz, in that he has the two headed Filmation version that he uses to strike fear into the hearts of all who are under him. He posseses the third sword of power, the sword of evil (UK Mag). I cant even picture what horde Supreme would look like. Overlord of the whole Empire, while Horde Prime is his underling, the real muscle behind him, then he controls Hordak. I see them as 2 different people. Whats your take on it?

I think they're the same person but they just didn't have access to the name Horde Prime. I didn't like the UK version of him so I hope they go a different route. As for story, I like MVC's take on it where he was once an Ancient who did treacherous deeds and eventually split his essence into two (namely Horde Prime and the Unnamed) with the intention of being reunited at a later time. I despised the concept of Horde Prime until I read this idea :hmgrin:

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Originally Posted by facet

I see Horde Prime as the UK version, but almost like the wizard of oz, in that he has the two headed Filmation version that he uses to strike fear into the hearts of all who are under him. He posseses the third sword of power, the sword of evil (UK Mag).

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Anyone have a picture of THIS?!?!? I only remember seeing his hand in She-ra before... never a head!! or Heads...

I personally think the UK version was a HORRIBLE character design... Possibly one of the worst I've ever seen... And I LIKE things like Serpentor... so Take that into consideration ;)


As for a 'third sword of power' I don't see the need to number the swords... There were origianlly 2 swords.. that combined into one... adding a third is redundant since it wouldn't have combined with anything...

I'm fine with it being a 'powerful sword' .... just not a 'sword of power'

We never see Horde Prime's two heads- they are referred to in the episode For Want of a Horse. :hmgrin:

I'm glad Mattel have a door left open for Horde Prime. Horde Supreme sounds neat as well. :shgrin:

Hordak - the Ruthless Leader of the Evil Horde.

If Horde Prime/Supreme/Family size/Cheesy-crust/Extra olives exists in MOTUC (hope not) then I say he was murdered 5000 years ago by Hordak, the most evil villain in the universe :holol: (until Skeletor). :homad:

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Originally Posted by phantom1592

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Anyone have a picture of THIS?!?!? I only remember seeing his hand in She-ra before... never a head!! or Heads...

I personally think the UK version was a HORRIBLE character design... Possibly one of the worst I've ever seen... And I LIKE things like Serpentor... so Take that into consideration


As for a 'third sword of power' I don't see the need to number the swords... There were origianlly 2 swords.. that combined into one... adding a third is redundant since it wouldn't have combined with anything...

I'm fine with it being a 'powerful sword' .... just not a 'sword of power'

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Here is the face of Horde Prime within the UK comics.

http://www.bustatoons.com/blog_image...e_prime_uk.jpg
http://eternia.nuevadominion.com/ima...de%20Prime.JPG

However, I already asked Toyguru about him and he told me they don't have the rights for the UK comic one. However they can create a totaly new one and I really hope they will do that. But his name will be Horde Supreme no more Horde Prime. I'm totally excited to have this character.. Please, Please Mattel!!!!

To discuss more about the character, Horde Prime appears in the following POP episodes:

Xmas special
Horde Prime Takes A Holiday
The Eldritch Mist
For Want of a Horse --> here, we learn that Horde Prime has 2 Heads.
Bow`s Magical Gift
The Inspector
Micah of Bright Moon --> In this episode, we see him better when he threatens the King of Brightmoon.

http://www.frankshemanpage.net/micah00.JPG
http://www.frankshemanpage.net/holiday01.JPG

Here are some fan arts:

http://lh6.google.com/mr.breuly/R49n...Dw65bAM/horde%

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...ime_2008_2.jpg

http://www.jasonbot.com/bootlegsketc...eprime2web.jpg

http://eternia.nuevadominion.com/ima...eprimeweb2.jpg

And a vintage custom:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3621/...bc6be7ec08.jpg

Some cool design takes on Horde Prime/Supreme there. I dig 'em. I'm betting a MOTUC Horde Supreme figure will be based on some original design sketches of Hordak or something like that.

Horde Supreme looks dorky as heck, so if they mix 'em I hope they do some original concept based on the giant robo-hand. Mr. Bug man just doesn't look like he would be ordering Hordak around, ya know?

I like the Galactus Head Horde Prime!

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Originally Posted by Alexx

Horde Supreme looks dorky as heck, so if they mix 'em I hope they do some original concept based on the giant robo-hand. Mr. Bug man just doesn't look like he would be ordering Hordak around, ya know?

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Agreed on that one.

I LOVE this take on character--it's very creepy.

http://eternia.nuevadominion.com/ima...eprimeweb2.jpg

This one is cool too, and reminds me of the last boss in Beyond Good and Evil.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...ime_2008_2.jpg

I HATE the UK version, and am glad Mattel does not have access to it.

Id like it if it was a lump of plastic smoke on a chair with the robot hand sticking out. Im sure the 4H could do this and make it look cool. I wouldn't want to actually see Horde Primes face as he seems more sinister always being in shadow and no one knowing what this giant creature looks like.

Here is the full image of Horde Prime within the UK comic:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ofPower002.jpg

I think a mixed version Filmation/UK comic might work if done in such a way as to not make it look to like an obvious mix up. I also came up with the idea that his UK comic appearance was his more humaoid form that was used when interacting with people but that he was actually quite large as seen in the Filmation cartoon.

Thank the Supreme Shareholder that Mattel is not chasing around for rights to this awful representation of what could be an awesome monster/giant figure.

I read the comics as a kid. Hated them. The art was crappy, story-lines often bad (though not all bad) & Horde Prime just made me shake my little head. Still kept reading the crap until it turned in New Adventures. Then I was done for good.

Until MOTUC :skwink:

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I think a mixed version Filmation/UK comic might work if done in such a way as to not make it look to like an obvious mix up. I also came up with the idea that his UK comic appearance was his more humaoid form that was used when interacting with people but that he was actually quite large as seen in the Filmation cartoon.

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A mix version could be a great idea.... But the question is: Will Horde Supreme be a Oversize or a regular figure???

I love the one from the UK comics!

I don't mind the design from the Uk comics- but it's not the Horde Prime I know.

The great thing about Horde Prime is that his true image is shrouded in mystery. His metallic claw-hand is all we need to see. This is one powerful being and the destruction he could cause is unheard of...

I kind of feel that revealing his face would ruin it, as good as some of the fan art is.

You know, Horde Prime could actually be both the Filmation version and the UK Comics version.

To make this true, it would have to be one of three things:

1) Originated as UK Comics version, had an accident and became the giant robotic version.

2) Originated as UK Comics version and the Horde Scientists created the Techno Organic virus to make him more powerful. Filmation Horde Prime was the result and the virus got spread to Eternia. Maybe he infects people by touching them?

3) Sort of Wizard of Oz type thing. The big monstrous Filmation machine is his armour/body shell and inside the mechanical, two-headed machine, is the UK Comics Horde Prime.

I really don't like the Horde Prime design for the UK comics, so if we get him (likely as Horde Supreme, which I'm fine with) I would hope for an all new design. If we ever got Filmation rights, he could be a tricky figure, actually...

I'd so want an oversized figure. Or even do him like one of the larger vehicles. If he is usually hidden hide large parts of him in the vehicle type section... Now I'm not saying to make him a vehicle, just treat his creation/sculpting like the creation of a vehicle.

I hope that makes sense...

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Originally Posted by Darkspecter

3) Sort of Wizard of Oz type thing. The big monstrous Filmation machine is his armour/body shell and inside the mechanical, two-headed machine, is the UK Comics Horde Prime.

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I think this could be a cool way to handle the character, but instead of the UK Horde Prime, maybe the character is someone like Sortech, or some other low key type, already established character? Maybe even Shadow Weaver, or Spikor, or Modulok, or Prahvus? I dunno, I'm just throwin out some names.... :skgrin:

Horde prime and Horde Supreme are two of my most wanted figures EVER.

They are up there in my list.

1.Granymyr
2.Horde Prime
3.Horde Supreme
4.Faceless One

Seriously mattel needs to get to work on these types of figures.
They havent done anything like them.

I really liked MVC comics take on the nameless one (Horde supreme). I see a story of epic proportion. Even if its touched on just a little would add a lot of intrigue.

You know...Horde Prime in the shadows from Filmation looks quite a bit like Onslaught from X-Men...

http://www.frankshemanpage.net/micah00.JPG

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/cr...nslaught08.jpg

http://ui21.gamespot.com/1556/83713onslaught400_2.jpg

He does to me, at least. :hmlol: