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    I'm sure it's ALL great! :grin:
    Evil Simian Mechanic of the Horde!

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    Wow! thats awesome and great info on coloring thanks.

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    BAENA YOUR COMPUTER PAINTING SKILLS are beyond words your skills in general are like that I just check out this and I was stunned to read you did this on the computer YOU ARE AHEAD OF YOUR TIME

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    Gotta' love chicks with furry capes.

    It's quite interesting to see how you went about creating her as well.

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    Baena: I remember this process being really eye opening, and now that I'm working in painter, it might be more beneficial for me. You don't have the pictures on file anymore, do you? It looks like they're all gone. Or maybe a new and improved process?

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    I kinda hate to ask for the pics again, but I'd like a chance to see this too ...

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    I'll have to re-post them for this example. Sorry!
    I'll get to it when I have time... maybe tomorrow?

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    Thanks for replying; can't wait to see it!

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    Pics are back up folks!

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    Thanks Baena, this is great! It seems like you use a lot less line for definition in your work now. Or at least you aren't as reliant on line. Did you do the whole thing in Painter Oils? I remember reading something else that you wrote about starting with a pastel base, and then using oils on top.

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    I think you're remembering a method I used a few years ago in photoshop.
    I've built my own brushes in Painter.
    For the most part they consist of:

    A round hard (no bleed, all resaturation)
    A round medium (meaning medium resaturation and medium bleed)
    And a round mushy (meaning low resaturation and tons o' bleed)

    I'll also play with smeary pallett knives and some round camel hairs.

    I've done this method now for a while, but I find I'm starting to move back to a more textured brushstroke like I was doing with photoshop.
    I guess it just depends the piece and my mood at the moment.

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    Oh Beana man, that is awesome!

    I'm still in too minds weather 2 give Painter a bash or just get better at Photoshop. I think I'd like to get more confident with Photoshop before I try Painter. Whatcha reckon?
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    "You must do what you feel is right of course."
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    Should've seen that one comin'!
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    Yay! Thanks ever so much for reposting the images. I have a problem I can't figure out: The default oil brushes do weird things with the color when I press softly with my tablet. Which aspect of the brush is that? Thanks for all the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabegeorge
    Yay! Thanks ever so much for reposting the images. I have a problem I can't figure out: The default oil brushes do weird things with the color when I press softly with my tablet. Which aspect of the brush is that? Thanks for all the info.
    One or both of these two things:

    Could be the bleed.
    Could be the impasto.

    What exactly are the "wierd things"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pig Boy
    I'm still in too minds weather 2 give Painter a bash or just get better at Photoshop. I think I'd like to get more confident with Photoshop before I try Painter. Whatcha reckon?
    I can post a Photoshop painting tutorial to give you the PS side of the painting spectrum. After that...it's up to you.

    But EITHER way...Baena and I have got your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime
    I can post a Photoshop painting tutorial to give you the PS side of the painting spectrum. After that...it's up to you.

    But EITHER way...Baena and I have got your back.
    By all means sir, please do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baena
    One or both of these two things:

    Could be the bleed.
    Could be the impasto.

    What exactly are the "wierd things"?
    Strangely, the problem disappeared ... at low pressures, the oils would lay down lighter (with darker colors) and darker (with lighter colors). I'm still not sure what happened, but I'm not going to worry about it Thanks again!

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    Prime, I'd love to see your technique with photoshop. I had no idea that custom brushes were such an important part of computer painting. Good tips already.

    Baena: Just out of curiosity, if you could achieve similar effects with photoshop, why did YOU make the switchto Painter?

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    "Similar" and "same" are two different things now aren't they?

    Because Painter does things that photoshop stinks at and visa versa.

    The actual "paint" engine is superior in Painter. It's the way the color interacts with the canvas and with the other colors that are laid down.
    It's a much more natural effect if you will. And much more intuitive to an artist who has worked in traditional mediums.

    Painting in Photoshop is great too, if you like painting in guache or fast drying acryilics. The colors really don't interact with each other, so you find ways to "fake" it with opacities, imported textures and the like.

    I use both programs hand in hand. One is great for some things, where the other is great for other things.

    I'm a spoiled digi-art brat, I fortunately have access to both, so I use both.

    If I could only use one? I'd go with what my budget could afford. Painter is cheaper and will get you many great features, most of which can be performed in Photoshop.
    But you'll get a lot of great stuff in Photoshop that is either clunky in Painter or is not as easy to do in Painter. Soooooo...

    If I HAD to live with one... It'd probably be Photoshop. But I would miss Painter terribly so.

    My breakdown for how I work in the two programs is much like this:

    I'll sketch it out in Painter.
    Pull it into Photoshop to separate the sketch if I haven't already with layers, using channels.
    I'll come back to Painter and express myself there... meanting flesh out the painting.
    Then I'll do touchups and finishing levels and the like in Photoshop.

    I "paint" in Painter.
    I do the "digi-technical" stuff in Photoshop.

    Let's see how many times I can repeat myself here...

    That's how I like to work. You as your own artist must choose for yourself how you like to work on your own art.
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    When I used traditional mediums for colours I tended to use, guache, acrylics (mostly with an airbrush), pantone markers and pastels. I have sadly never had the oppertunity to use oils or water colours.
    So with that in mind, maybe Photoshop is the way to go for me until such a time when I feel confident enough to try Painter. But I have one of those Haberlin Painter tutorials so there no harm checking Painter out with that. As it's there ya know!
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    Okay. It sounded a lot like you could do the same thing with custom brushes in photoshop. I've been using Painter for the last couple months, and everything you said is true--it is a very clunky program, and I was constantly switching between Painter and Photoshop. The only thing is that some of the photoshop features don't work when you import back into Painter. The ability to pick up color that is already laid down and randomize hsb during painting is wonderful, though.

    I'm looking forward to Prime's photosop tutorial

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    Well, I was walking memory lane after visiting your farewell thread and I totally forgot about this piece. I love it, so I think it needed a bump...especially since it's winter!

    This is another piece I forgot I had. Remember, you were kind enough to print and sign one for me? Good stuff...

    I really need to get my portfolio back from my friend (he took it to take good pics/scans of everything for me like a year ago! HAHA. What else am I forgetting about!?

    When you are a big deal in comics it's gonna be cool to have a big collection of Nate originals and prints.

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    I like the colors in this. Its nifty.

    Yes, I need more Nate originals as well
    Obey the whip!

    Smile like you mean it.

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