Who is the most powerful evil magical warrior?

**Brian Ozone** · January 30, 2005, 02:31pm

well we got three skeley,hordak and hiss. which one do you think holds the most macgical powers. skeley has been around for a while as keldor and skeletor. but hiss once ruled eternia but hordak banished the snakemen. so who do you think is the best of the worst.

**motubot** · January 30, 2005, 04:10pm

Keldor/Skeletor.
Isn't he a great magician or something?

**Steph** · January 30, 2005, 04:44pm

I say Hordak, but I don't think Skeletor or Hiss are too far behind in power. Outside of Snake Mountain, I think Skeletor and Hiss are evenly matched powerwise.

**Galmorzu** · January 30, 2005, 06:03pm

i had to go Hordak as well. Skeletor's a great magician/sorcerer, but Hordak is beyond even him. For crying out loud, the guy nearly tore Eternia in half with his power. This doesn't mean he's necessarily better, but just taking sheer magical power into account, Hordak is just better. I think Skeletor is next in line, and then Hiss. I say Hiss is last because his powers seem to focus on certain things (phantom snakes, flying, etc) whereas Skelly has power kind of all around.

**Predabot** · January 30, 2005, 07:01pm

I voted skelly, he's got the biggest potential.

Hmmm...but Hordak didn't throw the spell of separation all by himself, his weird sorcerer dudes did it, and with the help of those mysterious artifacts they had crafted. And is it really one 100% that Hordak is a sorcerer in the 200x line?

In the original it waried some, (i.e in the Star comic for some reason he did some magical things..) but in the Filmation cartoon and the UK/european comics he hated magic.

The UK version explained it as because Skeletor betrayed Hordak using his magic and trapped him inside another dimension he woved to use his scientific skill to destroy him. (I believe that he was supposed to have used both technology & magic prior to that).

I like that version best meself.

Also the fact that Skelly & Hordak appeared to be pretty much equals too.

Also, the only really utmost magical thing that Hordak did in the MYP-toon was blow up Calix, and the powerful winds that he used against King Grayskull. The destruction of Calix however might have been done with at fail-safe detonator of some kind, wich he might have triggered in a number of ways.

And the wind-power was something that classic-Hordak had too, except he generated it scientifically. So, you see, there might be a chance of a science techno-magical (odd, isn't it? In the classic many things pointed to this about the nature of Hordak, yet he hated magic) cyborg-Hordak in 200X too.

I know it's tattered and full of holes, but in my mind Hordak will always be like that.

**Count Marzo** · January 30, 2005, 07:57pm

Hordak doesn't **** around wit magic. He does the Horde Science! haha

**Blue** · January 30, 2005, 08:26pm

Originally Posted by Count Marzo

Hordak doesn't **** around wit magic. He does the Horde Science! haha

Marzo took the words right out of my mouth. Not to mention that Skeletor laid the Smackdown on Hordak more than once in the POP cartoon. Skelly all the way, baby!!!!

**Penny Dreadful** · January 30, 2005, 09:05pm

I definitely go with Skeletor.

Also, Hordak still hates magic according to the bio on the back of the bust:

http://www.freepichosting.com/Albums/421595860/0.html

**Brian Ozone** · January 30, 2005, 09:34pm

Originally Posted by pennypunk

I definitely go with Skeletor.

Also, Hordak still hates magic according to the bio on the back of the bust:

http://www.freepichosting.com/Albums/421595860/0.html

maybe hordak hates magic because he's too powerful for his own spells. look at the spell of seperation he had to stop it and the spell to send grayskull to despondos backfired on him.. i'd hate magic too after that. but he did give skeletor his life back in the new cartoon. and in the classic skeletor was his padawon. i think that hordak just gave up in magic and now uses science mixed with magic.

**Galmorzu** · January 31, 2005, 12:34am

Originally Posted by Predabot

I know it's tattered and full of holes, but in my mind Hordak will always be like that.

Tattered and full of holes?

**JeMaBo2** · January 31, 2005, 01:00am

Skeletor gets my vote

**Lucas Redux** · January 31, 2005, 01:20am

Originally Posted by pennypunk

I definitely go with Skeletor.

Also, Hordak still hates magic according to the bio on the back of the bust:

http://www.freepichosting.com/Albums/421595860/0.html

I really don't believe MYP Hordak was based in Snakemountain like magic hating Filmation Hordak was.

**Megatron** · January 31, 2005, 01:33am

It's goes Hordak, Hiss then Skeletor.

But I don't think Skeletor is that much weaker magic wise than Hiss.

**Megatron** · January 31, 2005, 03:49am

Originally Posted by KING GRAYSKULL

What no option for ORKO?

His magic is pretty evil, me thinks.

Poor Orko, he never gets any respect.

**TheGreat** · January 31, 2005, 06:31am

Hordak supposed to be!

**gorby** · January 31, 2005, 07:34am

Some would say Hordak is, because he was Keldor's/Skeletor's master. However, Skeletor, as the apprentice, has surpassed his master. Skeletor is the "Overlord of Evil!"

**Skipperbecks** · January 31, 2005, 09:24am

Probably Hordak...

**Predabot** · January 31, 2005, 09:24am

Originally Posted by galmorzu

Tattered and full of holes?

Well, at times in the MYP cartoon he looked so darn magical, and I just thought my little tirade was going to be shot up to intsy bitsy pieces of cornflakes. Apparently not tho.

YAAY! For a magic-hating Hordak! That side of his personality has the potential for some very interesting plot-lines in a world so ridden with magic as Eternia!

ZODAK-ANU · January 31, 2005, 09:41am

The MYP continuity firmly establishes HORDAKS magic as being for more powerful......Even both SKELETOR and HISS were afraid of him....

Didn't HORDAK separate the hemispheres of ETERNIA?

C'mon ya'll, go with the facts, and not with who you want it to be.

**Galmorzu** · January 31, 2005, 09:57am

I think what the problem here is that some people don't even want to consider that Skeletor, the mainstay master villain of the MotU universe, might not be the most powerful villain magically. It's blasphemous. But I have to say that even if there is someone more powerful (in this new 2002 line, I think it's fairly obvious that they were making Hordak out to be an unrivaled monster when it came to sorcery), that doesn't mean they can't be tricked, sabotaged, blind-sided, or out-gamed by the likes of Skeletor.

Yeah, I really think Hordak is more powerful, and I don't think fans should be turned off by that statement, because in the end Skeletor is devious enough to outplay both Hordak and Hiss given time. Skeletor is the true mastermind, and while he might not have the numbers that King Hiss does, or the sheer magical power that Hordak does, he has the skill of mind to overcome both of them.

Originally Posted by Predabot

Well, at times in the MYP cartoon he looked so darn magical, and I just thought my little tirade was going to be shot up to intsy bitsy pieces of cornflakes. Apparently not tho.

YAAY! For a magic-hating Hordak! That side of his personality has the potential for some very interesting plot-lines in a world so ridden with magic as Eternia!

Hehe, no I see your point, but in the statement you made before, your sentence structure made it sound like you were saying Hordak himself was tattered and full of holes.

Personally I like the idea of Hordak being such a powerful magic-user, and I think the MYP cartoon really set him up for that. I wondered though that if his downfall brought about by magic would have left such a bitter taste in his mouth that he would turn to technology which most of eternia would be unprepared for..maybe...not sure. Both versions of him could be really interesting, I would just want to see some reason for him to go all anti-magic in the new line.

**Vahn** · January 31, 2005, 10:24am

I have a problem with this poll, because it asks two different questions to which only one answer can be given.

In the title of the thread it is asked: