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    IT movie (2017)

    Just saw this last night and loved it. Has anyone else had the pleasure of seeing this yet?

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    Quite well done re-adaptation of the novel with some nice effects and good acting/direction! i can't wait for part 2 soon since it's a very long book you know and deserving the Lord of the Rings treatment and maybe even a third movie.
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    The commercials are freaking terrifying my nine-year old. Now he won't play in his man cave. I can't believe they run them so early in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryCanyon View Post
    Quite well done re-adaptation of the novel with some nice effects and good acting/direction! i can't wait for part 2 soon since it's a very long book you know and deserving the Lord of the Rings treatment and maybe even a third movie.
    "Part 2"?? That does make sense since the book is HUGE, though.


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    The commercials are freaking terrifying my nine-year old. Now he won't play in his man cave. I can't believe they run them so early in the evening.
    That's is very sad to hear, Jack. I hope you and Kim are able to assuage his fears and get him back to his little man-cave-playing self.

    I remember watching the original mini-series when I was 12, and I put "Stephen King's 'IT' " on my Christmas list that year. Well, Santa didn't bring it to me; I guess for some reason my mom didn't think a 1,000+ page horror novel was a good idea for a 12-year-old! lol...in hindsight I may be glad of that, I dunno; I've actually never read it...the only King novels I have read are The Shining and 'Salem's Lot, both of which I enjoyed immensely. But then I tried Dreamcatcher and I actually gave up on it (a thing I rarely do with books) because I found it so boring. Go figure.
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    I went to see It again tonight and I think this is my favorite movie so far this year
    This isn't just a horror movie--It's a coming of age movie (think Stand by Me), it's a nostalgia movie (the kids are around the same age I would have been in the late 80s), and it's emotionally charged with not just fear, but hilarity and sadness all in one. I normally don't like contemporary horror moves like Saw, which to me is just horror porn and usually avoid them, but I'm glad I saw It for sure (just saw it again tonight..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    The commercials are freaking terrifying my nine-year old. Now he won't play in his man cave. I can't believe they run them so early in the evening.
    Yeah, when I went again tonight I saw people with like 7-10? year old kids which Is INSANE.

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    I know it's just a movie, but that Georgie scene really messed me up, and I had to leave the theater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkpat View Post
    I know it's just a movie, but that Georgie scene really messed me up, and I had to leave the theater.
    I haven't seen the movie yet, but I felt that way about this scene in the book. It was always something that stuck with me.

    As far as a part 2 for the movie, it's my understanding that the movie only addresses what happened when they were kids. In the book, the narrative switches back and forth between them as kids, and them as adults dealing with Pennywise again.




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    My eighteen-year old saw it and said he laughed through the whole film. Of course he's been on waaaaaaay too many film sets so he knows too much about how things are done and there's little magic left for him.

    On balance he said it's his favorite film of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkpat View Post
    I know it's just a movie, but that Georgie scene really messed me up, and I had to leave the theater.
    I have seen that scene and I would have also walked out right at that moment as well. I draw the line at seeing kids get killed on screen. I know he got killed in the 1990 tv mini-series but it never actually showed it. You simply saw Pennywise slowly advancing with his mouth full of sharp teeth and... cut to his wake. You then worked out what happened to him by what the characters said. So you know it wasn't nice but the film didn't have to shove it in your face and say

     
    "Look at this poor defenseless young child have his arm ripped off and pulled into the sewer as he cries for his brother to come help him."


    Now I like gore in movies. If that had been an adult in a Jason or a Freddy movie I probably would have laughed. But a child? NO. I don't care if kids do die in real life, I have my principles and I am sticking to them. One of my main ones is I don't like seeing kids get killed in movies (or tv), it just doesn't sit right with me and never will.

    Even if the movie is "good" this scene has pretty much cemented the fact that I will NEVER watch it.

    That was shocking for shocking's sake and I am just...appauld

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    I have seen that scene and I would have also walked out right at that moment as well. I draw the line at seeing kids get killed on screen. I know he got killed in the 1990 tv mini-series but it never actually showed it. You simply saw Pennywise slowly advancing with his mouth full of sharp teeth and... cut to his wake. You then worked out what happened to him by what the characters said. So you know it wasn't nice but the film didn't have to shove it in your face and say



    Now I like gore in movies. If that had been an adult in a Jason or a Freddy movie I probably would have laughed. But a child? NO. I don't care if kids do die in real life, I have my principles and I am sticking to them. One of my main ones is I don't like seeing kids get killed in movies (or tv), it just doesn't sit right with me and never will.

    Even if the movie is "good" this scene has pretty much cemented the fact that I will NEVER watch it.

    That was shocking for shocking's sake and I am just...appauld
    That and Jaws or the zombie kids in Dawn of the Dead 1978 was tame compared to the truly horrific murder sequence of a family even of kids in that really screwed up Hong Kong horror import called "The Untold Story" from 1993 which deals with a cannibalistic killer who owns a restaurant as he slaughters some people and turn them into meat for his restaurant for meat buns.

    And He-Kal, when you saw Saw "horror porn", that's tame stuff compared to stuff i've seen in the past like I Spit on Your Grave, Maniac, Cannibal Ferox aka Make Them Die Slowly, Last House on the Left, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, The Untold Story, Nekromantik, Cannibal Holocaust, Inside, etc. and i'm a horror fan who has seen it all.

    Yet who can't wait for the sequel that deals with the adults who want to destroy the evil creature one and for all? they should do good casting for the adults.

    Who loves the 80s nostalgia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    I have seen that scene and I would have also walked out right at that moment as well. I draw the line at seeing kids get killed on screen. I know he got killed in the 1990 tv mini-series but it never actually showed it. You simply saw Pennywise slowly advancing with his mouth full of sharp teeth and... cut to his wake. You then worked out what happened to him by what the characters said. So you know it wasn't nice but the film didn't have to shove it in your face and say



    Now I like gore in movies. If that had been an adult in a Jason or a Freddy movie I probably would have laughed. But a child? NO. I don't care if kids do die in real life, I have my principles and I am sticking to them. One of my main ones is I don't like seeing kids get killed in movies (or tv), it just doesn't sit right with me and never will.

    Even if the movie is "good" this scene has pretty much cemented the fact that I will NEVER watch it.

    That was shocking for shocking's sake and I am just...appauld
    That and Jaws or the zombie kids in Dawn of the Dead 1978 was tame compared to the truly horrific murder sequence of a family even of kids in that really screwed up Hong Kong horror import called "The Untold Story" from 1993 which deals with a cannibalistic killer who owns a restaurant as he slaughters some people and turn them into meat for his restaurant for meat buns. Now that scene of the family murder made me sick when i was 15 when i rented Untold Story.

    And He-Kal, when you saw Saw "horror porn", that's tame stuff compared to stuff i've seen in the past like I Spit on Your Grave, Maniac, Cannibal Ferox aka Make Them Die Slowly, Last House on the Left, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, The Untold Story, Bloodsucking Freaks, Cannibal Holocaust etc. and i'm a horror fan who has seen it all.

    Yet who can't wait for the sequel that deals with the adults who want to destroy the evil creature one and for all? they should do good casting for the adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkpat View Post
    I know it's just a movie, but that Georgie scene really messed me up, and I had to leave the theater.
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    I have seen that scene and I would have also walked out right at that moment as well. I draw the line at seeing kids get killed on screen. I know he got killed in the 1990 tv mini-series but it never actually showed it. You simply saw Pennywise slowly advancing with his mouth full of sharp teeth and... cut to his wake. You then worked out what happened to him by what the characters said. So you know it wasn't nice but the film didn't have to shove it in your face and say



    Now I like gore in movies. If that had been an adult in a Jason or a Freddy movie I probably would have laughed. But a child? NO. I don't care if kids do die in real life, I have my principles and I am sticking to them. One of my main ones is I don't like seeing kids get killed in movies (or tv), it just doesn't sit right with me and never will.

    Even if the movie is "good" this scene has pretty much cemented the fact that I will NEVER watch it.

    That was shocking for shocking's sake and I am just...appauld
    Hmmm this is suprising to me as I've had friends that saw it and said it had a very campy 80's type feel, almost like Goonies. What you guys are describing would be disturbing to me as well. I suppose people dealt with it better because most knew it was coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice View Post
    Hmmm this is suprising to me as I've had friends that saw it and said it had a very campy 80's type feel, almost like Goonies. What you guys are describing would be disturbing to me as well. I suppose people dealt with it better because most knew it was coming?
    "Sadistic Goonies" was actually the exact way I described it to people. The Georgie scene was definitely disturbing, but I also think that was the intent. As it was the first violence of the movie, it was setting the tone and making you have a visceral reaction to Pennywise. I think I was somewhat expecting it going in so I was prepared on some level, but it was definitely very unsettling. I loved the movie overall though. I thought it was excellent.
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    Sadly, I've been around the business too long, I've seen the old guy behind the curtain pretending to be The Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz, hung with Rob Bottin to completely get how make-up is used for horror effects, can see a jump scare coming 240 frames away and understand waaaaay too much other stuff to ever be scared by a horror film.

    Count yourselves luck that you're not like that. You lose out on an awful lot of fun and scares when you're a guy like me. Man, how I miss watching Vincent Price movies at the drive-in so many years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_mole_hill View Post
    "Sadistic Goonies" was actually the exact way I described it to people. The Georgie scene was definitely disturbing, but I also think that was the intent. As it was the first violence of the movie, it was setting the tone and making you have a visceral reaction to Pennywise. I think I was somewhat expecting it going in so I was prepared on some level, but it was definitely very unsettling. I loved the movie overall though. I thought it was excellent.
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    I should be seeing it sometime in the next couple of weeks with my younger and older brothers, but the trailers do look great and I am looking forward to it! I've only heard a few bad things about it, a couple of underdeveloped characters, both could be cut out and wouldn't have mattered, as neither add anything other than being there, so I'll have to watch past that, but I doubt it'll spoil my viewing pleasure.

    Lastly, Rob Bottin... genius!!

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    Funny, but Rob always said the same thing about Rick Baker. He sent him a bunch of unsolicited sketches and Baker hired him the next day. My gosh, imagine having Rick Baker as your mentor!

    Kind of like having Haim Saban as one's mentor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zentron View Post
    I should be seeing it sometime in the next couple of weeks with my younger and older brothers, but the trailers do look great and I am looking forward to it! I've only heard a few bad things about it, a couple of underdeveloped characters, both could be cut out and wouldn't have mattered, as neither add anything other than being there, so I'll have to watch past that, but I doubt it'll spoil my viewing pleasure.

    Lastly, Rob Bottin... genius!!

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    Movie is being premiered this Thursday and with some luck, director shall be there; although I have tickets for next Saturday. I have followed his work since "Nostalgia en la Mesa 8" short story, which is very emotional for whoever has his childhood in Argentina.

    I'm quite worried now. I have seen 90's min series, which I thought it was quite corny, and didn't read the book, but I had pictured the movie as a more disturbing chilhood wildest fears becoming a reality instead of bloody on screen gore porn that I'm not a fan of. I have spolied myself with Georgie scene and it certainly gory for my taste and too disturbing. I just hope it is just shock intro and then develops in more thrilling horror than on screen blood splatter fest.

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    Saw it... LOVED it.. aside from the "jump out" scenes... i didn't think it was THAT scary... Don't get me wrong... its def creepy but its not like its the Exorcist...

    It was a very good coming of age/horror flick... i eagerly await part 2
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    Well, in all fairness, The Exorcist was from a whole different time when viewers were not nearly as sophisticated -- or numb -- as they are today. We've seen just about everything and the horrors of life -- Hostel being one of the excepts to the rule -- are pretty much scarier than whatever can be put on film. I've seen people laughing so hard in the theater that they had tears coming down their eyes during the various Saw films.

    Imo, it's a shame, because something is lost. Hammer Films, Sam Z. Arkoff -- who I was fortunate to know -- and Bill Castle (The Tingler, House on Haunted Hill, 13 Ghosts), who bought the film rights to my first novel likely couldn't hack it in today's horror genre world nor, I've a hunch, would they want to. They're probably kicking back with Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing -- Bill puffing away on his beloved cigars -- talking about the good old days.

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    Saw it... LOVED it.. aside from the "jump out" scenes... i didn't think it was THAT scary... Don't get me wrong... its def creepy but its not like its the Exorcist...

    It was a very good coming of age/horror flick... i eagerly await part 2
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    I thought it was 'ok'. The more I marinate on it, the less I like it. It's been a week... or two now, so the details aren't as fresh, but the disappointments still are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Despara View Post
    I haven't seen the movie yet, but I felt that way about this scene in the book. It was always something that stuck with me.

    As far as a part 2 for the movie, it's my understanding that the movie only addresses what happened when they were kids. In the book, the narrative switches back and forth between them as kids, and them as adults dealing with Pennywise again.
    Georgie's death? It didn't really bother me, because they still don't show a LOT... There's no SAW comparison or anything that I can remember.
     
    He does lose an arm like he does in the book... but he's still wearing that raincoat, it just has a disturbingly empty sleeve.
    Still a scary scene, but not something I would consider 'traumatic', but YMMV on things like that. Still the idea that IT eats kids is kind of the point of the monster...

    As for part 2?? That was a terrible idea. The story was never meant to be split in two like that. The adults don't really HAVE much story. Their whole narrative takes place in about a 4 hours after getting into town... The whole magic was in the adults struggling to remember what they were getting into and what happened through the flashbacks of the kids... Making it two separate stories?? That's... not good. It already completely undercuts the victory in the first one.

    Most of all, I absolutely HATED the way they fought it.
     
    The book and the original mini-series really played up the fact that it was a psychic shapeshifter. IT feed on flesh and the more afraid you were, the better the feast. It would read the kids mind... the ones with the ripest imagination and become whatever they feared the most and murder them. In the book, and the original story that pure childhood belief became a double edged sword. When it took a form... it took it's weakness. Since one of the forms was the werewolf... the kids truly TRULY believed that pure silver would hurt it and that they had weapon to kill it. I loved the way Stephen King wrote something along the lines of "A whole village can imagine a vampire... but it only takes one child to imagine the stake needed to kill it." And almost every bit of that was dropped. No silver. No slingshot... just a bunch of kids who decide they'll kill it without any reason to think they could... and using whatever garbage was on hand to pound it...


    I love this story so much... and that was just a punch to the gut. There is a LOT of stuff in the books that can be cut out and still make a great movie... and more than a little that NEEDS to be cut out to make a great movie.... but THAT wasn't it...

    Also, I can't believe there isn't more SJW uproar over Beverly and Mickey's roles.... USUALLY I don't get into those kinds of rants...
     
    but Mickey was the sole black kid in town, raised by a good family and was the core of the group who had all the answers. He knew the history of the town, He'd tracked all the various killings through the years... He's the one who grows up to be the librarian and is actually narrating half the book as he tries to jog the memories of the others... and they gave nearly EVERYTHING I just said to Ben. Now Mike's parents are dead and he works a slaughterhouse... and just stands around.

    Beverly is a bit better... but somehow got thrust into the girl hostage situation. Instead of being the sure-shot who actually SHOOTS IT... she gets kidnapped and needs to be rescued...



    Is it just me or are those the kinds of things that the internet usually explodes about??? I'm shocked this slipped under the radar...


    I REALLY hope that part 2 can tie things together well... and I really don't know ANY books that are broken in two parts where the first one stands on it's own... I REALLY want to love this... but man... I hope part 2 rocks.

    Waiting till 2019 for it though??? That sucks.

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