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    Howdy

    Two quick questions.

    1. Is there any word on when Twilight Princess for the Cube will be released in Europe?

    2. Will I need to buy a Memory card to save my game data on my Wii? Or will the 512mb flash memory store it?

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    Memory card, no. Since it accepts SD cards, i'm assuming Nintendo will let us save games to those.

    the 512 mb flash memory is for other things i think (opera browser etc)

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    Rehashes and old games are rehashes and old games no matter how you twist it. It's on both the DS and the PSP and you complained that the DS has all of these ports and all I did was say the PSP has them too. Who cares if Nintendo is the one developing/publishing! If people will buy the games, then great. The video game industry is a business -- just ask Sony...isn't that the reason why they chose Blue Ray? So that they could get early adoption for that media format? It's strategy and it's called making money.

    GTA Liberty Stories and whatever else GTA Side Story game that is being released on the PSP plays just like the PS2...right? It's the same argument you are trying to pull with Mario Kart...except the DS has online play and the GameCube doesn't. Sports games...who even plays sports games on handhelds? Even the Madden games don't sell millions on the PSP. Final Fantasy III was revamped with 3D graphics (we're not talking GBA so don't bring those other FF titles in this ).

    Dynamo named a couple great games on the DS...Sonic Rush is a great game and is not a port. Super Mario Bros. is fun to play as well. Trauma Center is really hard, but very unique. So I mean, for every port or rehash or whatever you want to call it, there is a unique, and enjoyable DS game.

    And there might be some for the PSP (like Lumines...best game on the PSP by far!), but I just don't see myself playing X-Men Legends 2 on a small screen when I could play the same exact version (sans the extra character) on the PS2, XBOX, or GameCube...for the same price (may be even lower) might I add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeroStratos88
    Nintendo won't drop the price cause they don't need to. It will sell in Japan regardless just like the PS3 will. Sony didn't do this cause of the Wii. They did it in no doubt to response of MS selling the 360 there way cheap with 2 packed in games and an extra controller well under the US Core price. That's desperation. And Sony is making sure MS has no chance in Japan.

    anyway.. Heres a tidbit about the Red Steel.

    While it's no secret that the Wii doesn't have the sheer processing power of the Xbox 360 of the PS3, this interview with Epic's Mark Rein makes it a bit easier to understand -- "it's not Intel integrated graphics, but it's pretty far below the kind of min-bar of Unreal Engine 3." Previously, Epic had been considering using Unreal Engine 3 on the Wii, which at that point was still the Revolution.

    He goes on to admit that Unreal Engine 3 wouldn't run on the original Xbox, or the PS2, but it is being used for subsequent games on the next-gen versions of both of those consoles.
    Everytime somebody quotes Mark Rein, a little piece of me inside dies just that little more.

    He's a nice enough guy, but all he's interested in is getting your million bucks to license a poorly written "game engine" called Unreal. He'll go to any lengths to get you on the Unreal bandwagon.

    I remember being at a UE developer conference about two years ago for UE 2/2.5. Lots of developers had shelled out a lot of money to attend in the hope that the guys who had written the engine could help them address some really crippling problems they were having.

    But what infact happened was that we were subjected to three days of talks about UE3.

    From what I hear, UE3 is still a poorly written piece of crap. It's just UE 2/2.5 with a visual scripting interface and an already outdated shader engine. I've heard stories of devs having to re-write whole chuncks of an engine that they have already paid for because it just doesn't work the way it should.

    So please people....do this (now out of work) games programmer a favour and not mention Mark Rein again
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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Matt
    Memory card, no. Since it accepts SD cards, i'm assuming Nintendo will let us save games to those.

    the 512 mb flash memory is for other things i think (opera browser etc)

    I cannot WAIT for November 19th.
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    So I could buy and use this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by shigsy2003
    Howdy

    So I could buy and use this:

    http://www.directfoto.co.uk/shop/pro...-Card-1Gb.aspx

    Chris M
    theoretically, yes. If you want, I already have a couple SD cards sitting around my house and I can try it on Nov 19th when it comes out and let you know then (as the European launch is after the North American one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hemanrep
    And there might be some for the PSP (like Lumines...best game on the PSP by far!), but I just don't see myself playing X-Men Legends 2 on a small screen when I could play the same exact version (sans the extra character) on the PS2, XBOX, or GameCube...for the same price (may be even lower) might I add.
    Exactly. And the problem is that most of the content available for PSP (first and third party) seems to be along the lines of how X-men Legends 2 is... almost the exact same game, only on a smaller screen and more limited (apparently in this case there's an extra character, but that's probably to try and make up for the game lacking in other areas). And often times for the same price if not more. It's just insane.

    Now, Nintendo's portables may have a rehash here and there. I am not saying that Nintendo never has a rehash at all. But most of the time, Nintendo will take their existing franchises and still try to bring a new feature or some kind of element of originality to it for the portable systems.
    This was evident back in the old NES/Gameboy days. The Super Mario Land games were similar to the NES and SNES Mario games, but still had a flavor all their own. This trend has continued over the years, and is still true today.

    I often look at everything in the video game sections at stores, including the PSP section, and I am just astonished at how much PSP content is just watered down ports of PS2 games or straight up rehashes. I even was at EB Games not to long ago, a guy came in who has a PSP, was looking at the games, and (in a friendly manner) asked the people working there "Why don't you have any good PSP games?" to which they replied, "Because they don't make any."

    Now, obviously this is all a matter of individual taste and opinion. If someone loves the stuff out for PSP, hey more power to them.

    But all in all it just seems like the DS is stronger in many ways, and most people whom I talk to tend to prefer it over the PSP. So, it is what it is.





    With all due respect, Aerostratos88, it just seems like you defend Sony for the sake of defending them. Now, I do not mean this as a personal attack or anything. It's more of a general observation based on your past posts in this and many other video game based threads.

    If I recall correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong) you've said that you love gaming overall and just often defend Sony as much as you do because of how much everyone else around here tends to speak negatively of them. But we don't just arbitrarily bash them with no reason. In the case of PSP, the games just aren't worth it for most of us. Their products have a tendency to malfunction.

    You often seem to grab at straws in order to make a counter arguement, and a few times even some of the sources you quote to back up your point have some other statement or comment in the mix that pretty much backs up the very point that you are trying to counter.

    I mean, many of us (myself included) have gone on and on about the PS2 disc read errors, and how these problems are not nearly as prevelant with Nintendo's products. You then go on to say how Nintendo has problems, too (which I never denied that some units would have problem... just not nearly the same % as Sony), and you go on to post links to message board forums of people complaing about the Gamecube problems. I read these messages, and yes, they are having problems, but many of them are shocked by the problem making statements like how they know PS2 tends to have these problems, but not Nintendo... and in one case, a Gamestop employee mentions how his GCN had problems, and how it shocked him because at his store they frequently get calls about PS2's and Xbox's that have Malfunctioned, but almost Never Nintendo!

    When I make my points about why I think the DS games are better and more original than those for PSP, most everyone can see where I am coming from, yet you grab at straws in an effort to make a counter arguement that most everyone else can see right through.

    And based on your recent statements, you don't seem to think very highly of the DS. Which makes it seem very odd that you bought the original DS, then upgraded to the DS Lite, and were recently considering trading that one in for the new black version. For a system that you don't seem to think very highly of, you seem to like rebuying it a lot... (and the repurchase is NOT the result of the system malfunctioning or something).

    The odd thing is that you've often shot down our arguements about the PS2 disc read errors as not being enough of a reason to bash the system. Yet, based on your whole logic of defending Sony because the rest of us are against them (and also speak negatively of Nintendo because the rest of us are in favor of them), I really get a strong feeling that if the rest of us were strongly in favor of Sony and against Nintendo, you'd not only be defending Nintendo, but you'd be using a lot of that same reasoning (including the disc errors) in your anti-Sony campaign that we are now.

    Maybe I am wrong on this, and if so, then I digress. But if I'm not wrong, then that just kind of seems silly to me. The rest of us may have our biases, but at least we stick to them (and we only change them if we have a REAL reason for doing so... like a company that we hold in high regard becoming less reliable, or vice versa). We don't just arbitarily jump on one side or the other for the sheer sake of being against what everyone else thinks... to the point of almost completely bashing a system that we have bought twice and are considering buying a 3rd time (and for cosmetic reasons and not functionality problems like with PS2).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    With all due respect, Aerostratos88, it just seems like you defend Sony for the sake of defending them. Now, I do not mean this as a personal attack or anything. It's more of a general observation based on your past posts in this and many other video game based threads.

    If I recall correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong) you've said that you love gaming overall and just often defend Sony as much as you do because of how much everyone else around here tends to speak negatively of them. But we don't just arbitrarily bash them with no reason. In the case of PSP, the games just aren't worth it for most of us. Their products have a tendency to malfunction.

    You often seem to grab at straws in order to make a counter arguement, and a few times even some of the sources you quote to back up your point have some other statement or comment in the mix that pretty much backs up the very point that you are trying to counter.

    I mean, many of us (myself included) have gone on and on about the PS2 disc read errors, and how these problems are not nearly as prevelant with Nintendo's products. You then go on to say how Nintendo has problems, too (which I never denied that some units would have problem... just not nearly the same % as Sony), and you go on to post links to message board forums of people complaing about the Gamecube problems. I read these messages, and yes, they are having problems, but many of them are shocked by the problem making statements like how they know PS2 tends to have these problems, but not Nintendo... and in one case, a Gamestop employee mentions how his GCN had problems, and how it shocked him because at his store they frequently get calls about PS2's and Xbox's that have Malfunctioned, but almost Never Nintendo!

    When I make my points about why I think the DS games are better and more original than those for PSP, most everyone can see where I am coming from, yet you grab at straws in an effort to make a counter arguement that most everyone else can see right through.

    And based on your recent statements, you don't seem to think very highly of the DS. Which makes it seem very odd that you bought the original DS, then upgraded to the DS Lite, and were recently considering trading that one in for the new black version. For a system that you don't seem to think very highly of, you seem to like rebuying it a lot.

    The odd thing is that you've often shot down our arguements about the PS2 disc read errors as not being enough of a reason to bash the system. Yet, based on your whole logic of defending Sony because the rest of us are against them (and also speak negatively of Nintendo because the rest of us are in favor of them), I really get a strong feeling that if the rest of us were strongly in favor of Sony and against Nintendo, you'd not only be defending Nintendo, but you'd be using a lot of that same reasoning (including the disc errors) in your anti-Sony campaign that we are now.

    Maybe I am wrong on this, and if so, then I digress. But if I'm not wrong, then that just kind of seems silly to me. The rest of us may have our biases, but at least we stick to them. We don't just arbitarily jump on one side or the other for the sheer sake of being against what everyone else thinks... to the point of almost completely bashing a system that we have bought twice and are considering buying a 3rd time (and for cosmetic reasons and not functionality problems like with PS2).
    that was stated very well. i've been having much the same feeling here... again, not to bash you, aerostratos, but it's the way you are coming across. honestly, i am not against the psp. i would love to see it succeed and keep the rivalry going with nintendo... because that will mean we as consumers win as they strive to outdo each other.

    but both the ds/wii and the psp/ps3 show us how very differently nintendo and sony view the gaming market. nintendo is trying to make a broader appeal to non-gamers and sony is mainly going after the established demographic for gaming.

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    Something I was thinking of today that I thought I'd post here since we seem to be in a predominantly handheld discussion at the moment. I wonder if Nintendo will make a DS Player attachment for the Wii like the GBA Player attachment they made for Gamecube. When the Wii is released, I'm keeping my Gamecube solely because of the GBA Player. There are always games for the handhelds I want, but I tend to dislike the handhelds themselves. I hate those tiny screens.

    I'd love to get New Super Mario Bros, the new Zelda (Phantom Hourglass?), and even the new Pokemon games Pearl/Diamond. But I'm not too inclined to drop $129 for a portable handheld system when somewhere down the line Nintendo might make some attachment for the Wii that'll play DS and GBA games.

    Same thing with the PSP. I wish Sony would put out something so you could play those games on a regular TV. I'd really like to get the Mega Man X remake Maverick Hunter X.

    It is my firm belief that all portable gaming systems should in some manner be able to hook up to a TV via AV cables so you can play the games on a TV should you be so inclined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Matt
    theoretically, yes. If you want, I already have a couple SD cards sitting around my house and I can try it on Nov 19th when it comes out and let you know then (as the European launch is after the North American one).
    Howdy

    Mate that would be fantastic if you would do so.

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjclifford
    It is my firm belief that all portable gaming systems should in some manner be able to hook up to a TV via AV cables so you can play the games on a TV should you be so inclined.
    i think the main problem with that is the lower resolution of the screens versus a tv as to why it hasn't been included thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjclifford
    Something I was thinking of today that I thought I'd post here since we seem to be in a predominantly handheld discussion at the moment. I wonder if Nintendo will make a DS Player attachment for the Wii like the GBA Player attachment they made for Gamecube. When the Wii is released, I'm keeping my Gamecube solely because of the GBA Player. There are always games for the handhelds I want, but I tend to dislike the handhelds themselves. I hate those tiny screens.

    I'd love to get New Super Mario Bros, the new Zelda (Phantom Hourglass?), and even the new Pokemon games Pearl/Diamond. But I'm not too inclined to drop $129 for a portable handheld system when somewhere down the line Nintendo might make some attachment for the Wii that'll play DS and GBA games.
    That would be cool, but I don't know if they could pheasably translate the DS games onto the TV. I mean, it requires 2 screens, so the only way they could do that would be to simulate to dual screen thing by taking your existing TV screen, putting black bars up and down the sides, and splitting the remaining area up to simulate the two screens.

    And even if they do that, how would they compensate for the need for the touch screen? Granted, not all games use it significantly, but most games require at least some use of it at some point. Even in New Super Mario Bros., while the touch screen is not at all used for the gameplay itself, it is still required for jumping back and forth between worlds on the map on the lower screen.

    Don't get me wrong, if they could find a good, reasonable, logical way to get this to work, I'd be all for it. But I just don't see that happening.


    As for the Gameboy Player... have you seen this?

    http://www.gameexpress.com/product_d...C=708056570507

    Pelican put out this Gamecube gamepad which is primarily designed to be used with the GB Player. It takes away the analog pads and makes the D-Pad the main directional control. I think its probably been out for a while and is likely being discontinued (since the GB Player is pretty much done being produced). I just happened to stumble upon it at my local Gamestop recently and picked it up.

    I remember seeing pictures of something similar to this being put out officially by Nintendo. I think it may have only come out in Japan or something. But they never released it in the USA.

    So, this control is pretty sweet for the GBA games. It also comes in handy for some other things for GCN like the Megaman Collections, other retro games, and possibly even any games that don't make use of (or at least don't require) the Analog pads.

    I have the one, and I may go and pick up a second one at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    Don't get me wrong, if they could find a good, reasonable, logical way to get this to work, I'd be all for it. But I just don't see that happening.
    Well just burst my bubble why don't you.

    Maybe I should just break down and buy a DS already. There are a good handful of games I want. It's just that I hate those little screens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjclifford
    Well just burst my bubble why don't you.

    Maybe I should just break down and buy a DS already. There are a good handful of games I want. It's just that I hate those little screens.
    Howdy

    Trust me man when you are immersed in a game like Another Code you forget you looking at little screens

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    Guys, definitely a good sign for the Wii...

    I went to my local Toys R Us here in Southern Ontario and they told me I couldn't pre-order one because all the Wii's they are slated to get have already been pre-ordered. He said, no regular customer will be able to buy one at that location.

    Sucks for me

    Hopefully Wal-Mart or Best Buy won't sell out so I can get one on launch day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shigsy2003
    Trust me man when you are immersed in a game like Another Code you forget you looking at little screens
    The little screens are always a problem for me, no matter how much I try to ignore it. Although I put up with it when I first got a GBA, I didn't really start buying a lot of GBA games until the GB Player was released for Gamecube. I had the same problem with the original Gameboy which was later solved by the creation of the Super Gameboy for Super Nintendo. I can only hope something similar is released for the DS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Matt
    Guys, definitely a good sign for the Wii...

    I went to my local Toys R Us here in Southern Ontario and they told me I couldn't pre-order one because all the Wii's they are slated to get have already been pre-ordered. He said, no regular customer will be able to buy one at that location.

    Sucks for me

    Hopefully Wal-Mart or Best Buy won't sell out so I can get one on launch day.
    Hmmm... interesting. I'm kind of having the opposite problem.

    I am waiting to reserve a Wii at my local Gamestop. They have not started taking reservations yet because they have not been given a number of units that they will get in. So, I hope they find out soon, because I want to reserve the system. I don't want to be out hunting or camping for one. That will suck (if it comes down to that, then I'll just wait until they are readily available rather than camp out over night just to obtain one).

    They are taking reservations on the launch games, so I reserved a few of those. So, hopefully I can get the system to play them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    Hmmm... interesting. I'm kind of having the opposite problem.

    I am waiting to reserve a Wii at my local Gamestop. They have not started taking reservations yet because they have not been given a number of units that they will get in. So, I hope they find out soon, because I want to reserve the system. I don't want to be out hunting or camping for one. That will suck (if it comes down to that, then I'll just wait until they are readily available rather than camp out over night just to obtain one).

    They are taking reservations on the launch games, so I reserved a few of those. So, hopefully I can get the system to play them on.
    Thats my plan as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjclifford
    The little screens are always a problem for me, no matter how much I try to ignore it. Although I put up with it when I first got a GBA, I didn't really start buying a lot of GBA games until the GB Player was released for Gamecube. I had the same problem with the original Gameboy which was later solved by the creation of the Super Gameboy for Super Nintendo. I can only hope something similar is released for the DS.
    Well, when you first got a GBA, did you get the original one, or the SP with the light up screen?

    If you got the first GBA (prior to light up screens being in any of Nintendo's handheld systems), then yeah, I can see the problem. The size of the screen may stink, but the worst part is just trying to get it into the proper light so that you can even see what you are doing. I actually prefered Super Gameboy over the regular GB back in the day for the same reason.

    However, things have been improving ever since the light up screens have been introduced. I traded in my GBA for a GBA SP (only about 3 or 4 months after getting GBA) but it was definately worth it. The light up screen was so much better. Then I got the DS pretty much right when it came out, and it's light up screens were even better. Then, when the DS Lite came out, I was hesitant to rebuy the system, but temptation got the better of me. And let me tell you, it was well worth it. I mean, the screen difference between the DS and DS Lite is almost like night and day. And that's not to say that the screen of the DS were anything to complain about, as they were really nice. But the DS Lite was just SO much more of an improvement. It's not only brighter, but the colors are just much more rich and vibrant.

    So, if your opinions of these small screen are based on the previous Gameboys without screen that light up, then I really suggest you give the DS Lite a try. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. (Even if you are hesitant to go out and buy one, see if you know anyone who has one just to try it out).
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    All this talk about Gameboys made me think of the time I gave one of my younger cousins my original Gameboy and Pokemon Red for Christmas. Man that thing was a clunker. I couldn't believe how much thinner the GBA was than that thing. Crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    If you got the first GBA (prior to light up screens being in any of Nintendo's handheld systems), then yeah, I can see the problem. The size of the screen may stink, but the worst part is just trying to get it into the proper light so that you can even see what you are doing.
    Yeah, getting the original GBA into the proper light so you could actually see what you were doing was a pain, but I was usually able to get around that most of the time. While the light from the screen (or lack of) was an issue, my problem has so much more to do with the small screens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    So, if your opinions of these small screen are based on the previous Gameboys without screen that light up, then I really suggest you give the DS Lite a try. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. (Even if you are hesitant to go out and buy one, see if you know anyone who has one just to try it out).
    I don't know anyone who has a DS, but I have tried them out in stores. I've played one of the Brain Age games and New Super Mario Bros. You're right about how bright and vibrant the thing is, but those tiny screens . . . (I have a hard time getting passed that one aspect of handhelds). Still, playing a handheld in a store is different than playing at home. At a store, that sucker is stuck in that one spot which is obviously situated for children. At home, I can hold the DS a lot closer to my face.

    There are good number of games I'd like to play that are DS only and I think I'm just going to break down and buy one tomorrow (it's my bithday after all ). I think I'll grab the black DS Lite, New Super Mario Bros, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon , and Tetris DS. Other games I'm thinking about are Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Metroid: Pinball, Super Mario 64DS, and Star Fox Command. Then next year there's Zelda: Phantom Hourglass and Pokemon Pearl/Diamond .

    Is it wrong to like Pokemon games when you're a day away from turning 26?
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    [Wii] Console keeps tabs on what you play and for how long

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    I read this a couple of days ago but here it is on Gamesradar from Ninty's website: Iwata Asks

    Nintendo's Wii console will feature a system called Play History, a permanent record that keeps tabs on what you're playing, when you're playing it and for how long. Nintendo president Satoru Iwata hopes Play History will "stop games being regarded with hostility in the family".

    The Play History record cannot be deleted and is designed to "allow parents to discuss with their children how much they are using the console," says Shinichiro Tamaki, of Nintendo's research and development department, during an interview on Nintendo's official website. But the original idea, from Iwata, was far more controversial.

    "I came up with a suggestion," Iwata explains, "perhaps a rather outlandish one! What I thought was that if a parent said that their child was only allowed to play games for one hour a day, how about making it so the console actually turns itself off after an hour? Of course, the console would save the game data before it switched off!"

    Nintendo's research suggested Iwata's idea was unworkable, despite some people thinking that "without such an extreme solution, mothers would always hate computer games". Eventually, the idea lead to the alternative of a Play History feature.

    Whatever your thoughts about the feature - it's effectively just a more sophisticated version of the play time stats you get with many saved game files - Play History shows just how focused Nintendo is in making Wii a console that is bought for the whole family, not just a single gamer. Whether Ninty's ambition will be realised is another question - we'll just have to wait and see.


    Wii is watching you

    Sounds good actually, since some games don't say how long you have been playing or how long it took you to complete, I like to know this so handy

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    It is a good feature for parents, but I just don't like the idea that there's no way to delete it at all. But, since I will likely be the just about the only person using my Wii when I get it, I guess it isn't a big issue for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    It is a good feature for parents, but I just don't like the idea that there's no way to delete it at all. But, since I will likely be the just about the only person using my Wii when I get it, I guess it isn't a big issue for me.
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    Whats the problem with not being able to delete the data? I can't see it getting in the way of anything and you don't have to access it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shigsy2003
    Whats the problem with not being able to delete the data? I can't see it getting in the way of anything and you don't have to access it.
    Well, yeah, you make a good point. And for me it will likely fall somewhere between being a minimal to a non issue.

    However, I look at it like this... I have a little sister who's about to turn 11 in a couple of months. Currently, she has a Gamecube and so do I. When she comes over to visit me, she often brings over some of her games to play at my place. While some are cool and I enjoy them, some are ones that I personally don't care much for, and are aimed at children.

    So, I am planning on getting a Wii (and it sounds like my mom and step dad are talking about getting one for my sister for Christmas if they can get ahold of one). And if this trend were to continue, and she were to bring over some embarassing, silly kiddie game, then the memory of that game being played on my system will stay there. Then, if I were to have a friend come over who possibly also has a Wii, or at least knows how it works, and that person went to access the game history, it would have that silly game on there, and then I would look silly for having it on there (even if I give an explanation).

    I mean, I don't see it being something that becomes a huge issue, but still, I just think its something that I should be able to delete if I choose to.

    I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but I think that it's the kind of thing that should be optionally deletable. Perhaps it could be designed so the parents can set up a password to access that info. And the only way to delete the info is with the password. That would make more sense, IMO.

    Again, it's not a big deal. In the grand scheme of things it is minimal... but it just seems to be something more in the direction of 'big brother is watching you'. I mean, if you take your system online, what's to stop someone (possibly the people at Nintendo) from accessing this info and keeping tabs on what you are playing? I really don't think it's any of their damn business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
    Again, it's not a big deal. In the grand scheme of things it is minimal... but it just seems to be something more in the direction of 'big brother is watching you'. I mean, if you take your system online, what's to stop someone (possibly the people at Nintendo) from accessing this info and keeping tabs on what you are playing? I really don't think it's any of their damn business.
    Isn't Microsoft already doing this with the 360? The system logs every game you play on your profile, the last time you played it, and all the achievements you've unlocked for each game. Maybe you'll be able to set up a seperate profile on the Wii just like the 360 so you won't have to worry about any little kiddie games being associated with you.

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