The Official "Console War" and Video Game Thread

[Raining Light]

Well my 360 died on me. I had just bought FEAR 2 also.
3rd one and it was an Elite.
Its not the RROD which means $$ out of my pocket.
Unless the 2 year warrenty I bought from wal-mart is still good.
But I have no idea how to go about following up on it or whatever.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Well my 360 died on me. I had just bought FEAR 2 also.
3rd one and it was an Elite.
Its not the RROD which means $$ out of my pocket.
Unless the 2 year warrenty I bought from wal-mart is still good.
But I have no idea how to go about following up on it or whatever.

If you have the Wal-Mart warranty, did they give you some kind of documentation on it, and if so, do you still have it? If not, I would suggest contacting your local store about it. They likely have some kind of warranty info on your in their computer system or something.


And while this may not be the most ethical thing to do (though, making a system with this many problems isn't ethical on MS's part anyway), depending on what exactly did go wrong with your 360, you could still fill out the form online and just say that you did get the RROD, send it in, and see what happens.

I actually did get the RROD for the first time back around September or October. However, after it happened and I filled out the form, the machine started working again. I still sent it in anyway for replacement, knowing that the problem would return sooner or later. And the turn around time was super-quick. I really think that as soon as they got my system, they just sent out a replacement without even checking it.

Granted, there's some risk involved and I can't guarantee something wouldn't go wrong, but you may just try to say that you got the RROD and see if they send you a replacement. It may just work.

[Raining Light]

I did get a thing from Wal-mart and I kept it but the problem is-
I have been moving alot of things around lately due to my living arrangements(long story) so I dont know where it is exactly, Ill just have to look.

Thanks for the info though.

[markatisu]

Walmart is able to reprint receipts but you have to speak to their customer service, especially if you bought a service plan they will have a copy of it on file.

How long ago did you buy it?

If it were me I would do what Dynamo suggested, you can always say it RROD for you because that is an inconsistent error (hence why the towel trick can work, etc) they will fix it and or replace it just to be safe

[Raining Light]

I cant remeber how long ago for sure.
I think its been 2 yrs or less.
Id have to ask my ex wife, shes good with that kinda info-lol.

[Skullface]

Prince of Persia: Epilogue DLC trailer:



Hits on 2/26!

[Dynamo of Eternia]

I cant remeber how long ago for sure.
I think its been 2 yrs or less.
Id have to ask my ex wife, shes good with that kinda info-lol.

As long as it is not 3 years old or more, you should be fine. In fact, if you have an Elite, there's pretty much no way that it could be 3 years old yet. The original system came out in November of '05. I believe the Elites didn't come out until around spring (April-Mayish) of '07 (I know it was spring time for sure, I'm a little fuzzy on the year).

And you probably didn't get your Elite right when it came out, so you should still be good to get an RROD replacement.

[Raining Light]

As long as it is not 3 years old or more, you should be fine. In fact, if you have an Elite, there's pretty much no way that it could be 3 years old yet. The original system came out in November of '05. I believe the Elites didn't come out until around spring (April-Mayish) of '07 (I know it was spring time for sure, I'm a little fuzzy on the year).

And you probably didn't get your Elite right when it came out, so you should still be good to get an RROD replacement.

But thats the thing
its not RROD.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

But thats the thing
its not RROD.

I understand that. But, did you not read my previous post?

The point is that (as Markatisu pointed out) the RROD is a very inconsistent problem. Some people (such as myself) may get the RROD one day, only for the system to work fine the next day (or even later in the same day). I still sent mine in for a replacement, and they never questioned it. The turn around time between them receiving my system and sending out the replacement was super quick. Odds are, they didn't do much to test out the problem or look into it. They received the system, and then just sent out the replacement. With who big the RROD problem is, they probably don't have time to test them out.

And, while I won't go pointing out names, there is another forum member who posts in this thread who had a problem with his 360 a while ago that had nothing to do with the RROD, however, he filled out the online form, marking the problem as being RROD, and they sent him a replacement with no questions asked.

Most likely, if you just say that you are getting the RROD (even though you aren't), they will likely just replace it. It may not be the most ethical thing to do, but as I said before, Microsoft putting out a system with this many problems isn't really ethical either, so I personally see it as balancing things out.

And, the worst case scenario (which I think is VERY UNLIKELY to happen), if they get your system and some way, somehow determine that the RROD wasn't the problem, they will just send it back to you as is, and you will be no worse off than you are now, and at that point you can look into possibly redeeming your Wal-Mart warranty.

[Raining Light]

I understand that. But, did you not read my previous post?

The point is that (as Markatisu pointed out) the RROD is a very inconsistent problem. Some people (such as myself) may get the RROD one day, only for the system to work fine the next day (or even later in the same day). I still sent mine in for a replacement, and they never questioned it. The turn around time between them receiving my system and sending out the replacement was super quick. Odds are, they didn't do much to test out the problem or look into it. They received the system, and then just sent out the replacement. With who big the RROD problem is, they probably don't have time to test them out.

And, while I won't go pointing out names, there is another forum member who posts in this thread who had a problem with his 360 a while ago that had nothing to do with the RROD, however, he filled out the online form, marking the problem as being RROD, and they sent him a replacement with no questions asked.

Most likely, if you just say that you are getting the RROD (even though you aren't), they will likely just replace it. It may not be the most ethical thing to do, but as I said before, Microsoft putting out a system with this many problems isn't really ethical either, so I personally see it as balancing things out.

And, the worst case scenario (which I think is VERY UNLIKELY to happen), if they get your system and some way, somehow determine that the RROD wasn't the problem, they will just send it back to you as is, and you will be no worse off than you are now, and at that point you can look into possibly redeeming your Wal-Mart warranty.

I guess Im scared of getting into trouble-lol.
Since its an Elite I feel like they will actually look at it. Because to my knowledge there is far less Elites screwing up then "regular" consoles. Plus I dont wannna try it, it not work then still have to wait forever. I just bought a new game, I hadnt played anything for a couple weeks, and came home to hook it up-boom it was broke. So now Im sitting here with a new game I cant play, being impatient

Oh well I'll figure it all out.
Thanks guys for your advice.

[Skullface]

The Commodore 64 makes its VC debut:

WII-KLY UPDATE: ONE WIIWARE GAME AND THREE VIRTUAL CONSOLE GAMES ADDED TO WII SHOP CHANNEL

Feb. 23, 2009

Hang onto your hats – and your Wii Remote™ controllers – as we unveil a set of exciting firsts for the Wii™ Shop Channel this week. For starters, the new Onslaught™ marks the first-ever first-person shooter to be released via the WiiWare™ service. Using the intuitive wireless controls Wii is known for, the game puts players at the center of a pulse-pounding adventure that fans of futuristic sci-fi and multiplayer action will love.

The other big news this week is the hotly anticipated launch of Commodore® 64 game titles on Virtual Console™. Starting with two classic martial arts games and an awesome car racing title, we're thrilled to add yet another old-school gaming platform to the mix. Virtual Console already offers classic games that originally appeared on a variety of platforms, and with the addition of Commodore 64, Wii owners can expect even more vintage games to rediscover and enjoy. (Congratulations to those of you who deciphered our hidden hints in last week's Wii-kly Update – you'll find a key to all the clues at the end of this installment.)

Nintendo adds new and classic games to the Wii Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time every Monday. Wii owners with a high-speed Internet connection can redeem Wii Points™ to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel or at retail outlets. This week's new games are:

WiiWare

Onslaught (Hudson Entertainment, 1-4 players, Rated T for Teen—Animated Blood, Violence, 1,000 Wii Points): Onslaught is an FPS that puts you in the middle of a futuristic war between humans and insectoid aliens. Become part of the Elite Interstellar Strike Force and fight against an overwhelming onslaught of alien life forms. Enjoy the rush of mowing down wave after wave of aliens with machine guns, grenades and more. Feel your heart pound as you battle gigantic boss aliens. Beyond the normal game, Onslaught includes additional modes that let you play with rivals from around the world using Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. Team up with as many as three other players in Free Battle mode, or compete on special maps to see who can get the most points by killing enemies before time runs out in Ranking Battle mode. (Router and broadband access required for online play. For more info, go to www.nintendo.com.)

Virtual Console

The Last Ninja™ (Commodore 64, 1 player, Rated E10+ for Everyone 10 and Older—Animated Blood, Mild Violence, 500 Wii Points): The evil Shogun Kunitoki has long envied the powers of the Ninja brotherhood and would do anything to acquire their knowledge. To this end, he has sworn an oath to their total destruction. Once every decade, all Ninja must travel to the Island of Lin Fen, where they pay homage to the Shrine of the White Ninja and receive further teachings from the Koga Scrolls. Seizing the opportunity, Kunitoki summoned forth all the spirits from the depths of the Nether World and flung their full force against the amassed Ninja. None escaped the wrath of Kunitoki. Word of this unnatural disaster soon reached Armakuni, the last Ninja. Gathering all his courage, he has sworn to wreak a terrible revenge on the Shogun and all his followers. What unforeseen hazards await him?

INTERNATIONAL KARATE™ (Commodore 64, 1-2 players, Rated E10+ for Everyone 10 and Older—Mild Violence, 500 Wii Points): INTERNATIONAL KARATE is a simulation of a karate tournament in which one person can play against the computer or two players can compete against each other. During the game, you'll fly to various locations around the world. In all stages of the game, a wise old judge will watch over you and award you either a half-point or a full point, depending on how successful a hit has been.

Pitstop II™ (Commodore 64, 1-2 players, Rated E for Everyone, 500 Wii Points): Pitstop II was the first game that brought serious auto racing action to the computer screen—the thrill of battling an opponent, the excitement of fighting for the lead out on the track, and the suspense of struggling to be the first out of the pits. Third-person graphics and a split-screen display allow one or two players to experience the challenge of car racing head-to-head. Six of the world's toughest tracks are waiting, from Brands Hatch and its hairpin turns to the mile-long straight of Vallelunga. You can practice against the computer, but nothing will compare to the fun of racing against another person. Indeed, Pitstop II proves that car racing was never meant to be a solo sport.

[TheDeviot]

The Commodore 64 makes its VC debut:

FINALLY!!!!

I hope they get Cosmi on board. I wouldn't mind playing Forbidden Forest again

[D-Day V1]

Commodore 64?????? SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[markatisu]

FINALLY!!!!

I hope they get Cosmi on board. I wouldn't mind playing Forbidden Forest again

I need Miner 2049er, Spy vs Spy 1,2,3 and Ultima 4, 5, 5...come on Nintendo you can do it

[Skullface]

Wow - PSP finally getting some more major franchise games:

http://psp.ign.com/articles/956/956591p1.html

Curious to see how Rock Band would work, and what connectivity LittleBigPlanet will have.

[nutnog]

Anybody pick up Star Ocean 4? How is it?

[D-Day V1]

Wow - PSP finally getting some more major franchise games:

http://psp.ign.com/articles/956/956591p1.html

Curious to see how Rock Band would work, and what connectivity LittleBigPlanet will have.

Looks like it's going to be an awesome year for the PSP.

[TheDeviot]

I need Miner 2049er, Spy vs Spy 1,2,3 and Ultima 4, 5, 5...come on Nintendo you can do it

Oh, and The Great Giana Sisters

[Ironman]

Hey everyone, I just got an XBOX 360 a few weeks ago and noticed that every game is in 1080p while most PS3 games are in 720p. Is there a reason why the PS3 is only 720p? On gaming only why would anyone choose the PS3?

[markatisu]

Hey everyone, I just got an XBOX 360 a few weeks ago and noticed that every game is in 1080p while most PS3 games are in 720p. Is there a reason why the PS3 is only 720p? On gaming only why would anyone choose the PS3?

The PS3 can do 1080p but only a handful of developers have actually done it, for various reasons. Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe is 1080p for example on the PS3.

The PS3 is a better gaming system from top to bottom but developers had a hard time with its programming (which is often why older PS3 ports of 360 games are often gimped or have issues) in the beginning

Now that is not much of an issue because most games that are multiplatform are now made either on the PS3 first and then ported down or made with both systems in mind

[Ironman]

The PS3 can do 1080p but only a handful of developers have actually done it, for various reasons. Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe is 1080p for example on the PS3.

The PS3 is a better gaming system from top to bottom but developers had a hard time with its programming (which is often why older PS3 ports of 360 games are often gimped or have issues) in the beginning

Now that is not much of an issue because most games that are multiplatform are now made either on the PS3 first and then ported down or made with both systems in mind

Just as an example NHL09 and Street Fighter 4 for the PS3 are only 720p. Since these are new games shouldn't they have been programed in 1080p? Doesn't make much sense to me.

[markatisu]

Just as an example NHL09 and Street Fighter 4 for the PS3 are only 720p. Since these are new games shouldn't they have been programed in 1080p? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Are you sure? Every report I have ever seen showed SF4 as a 1080p game, and RE5 is 1080p

I do know that the 360 and PS3 can upscale so all games are not necessarily 1080p but because the system takes care of the upscaling instead of the TV you "think" they are

That might be where the confusion lies

Also keep in mind unless your TV is larger than 52" (47" in some cases) then you will visibly see no difference between 720 and 1080 due to the way HDTV units work

[Ironman]

Are you sure? Every report I have ever seen showed SF4 as a 1080p game, and RE5 is 1080p

I do know that the 360 and PS3 can upscale so all games are not necessarily 1080p but because the system takes care of the upscaling instead of the TV you "think" they are

That might be where the confusion lies

Also keep in mind unless your TV is larger than 52" (47" in some cases) then you will visibly see no difference between 720 and 1080 due to the way HDTV units work

I had the two PS3 games in my hands and they are only 720p. I guess for us big screen owners its better to own an XBOX 360.

[markatisu]

I had the two PS3 games in my hands and they are only 720p. I guess for us big screen owners its better to own an XBOX 360.

Yeah the 360 also has more quality games, the PS3 is still having trouble establishing its own IP's due to the fact many are not buying it because of price

I think IronAvatar would be able to explain the whole 720/1080 disparity, its strange though because just looking at what little I own, Mortal Kombat vs DC and Metal Gear Solid 4 are both 1080p games so its not like the system can't do it

[Skullface]

Prince of Persia: Epilogue DLC pushed back a week, and pricing revealed:

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/957/957053p1.html

800 MSPoints(360) or $10+tax(PS3).