Off the bat i can remember that a lot of earlier sports games had the problem I mentioned. NFL Quarterback Club 98 is the first one that comes to mind. I remember getting that with my N64 and hating the game because of the control problems I mentioned.Originally Posted by Spidey
There were a few shooting games that had that problem as well. I know Doom 64 was like that to an extent (just played it today actually) and Rainbow Six as well.
I know those are mistakes by the developer, and not problems with the controller design itself, but still, it doesnt help me like the controller.
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Yeah, ditto for me on everything stated above. I never had a big problem with the N64 controller.
I think that many people perceived the controller as being more complicated based on its looks than it actually really was, because of the whole 3-handle, 2 different ways of holding it design. It's not my all time favorite controller, but I didn't hate it, and I never encountered a game where I had to use both the 'L' button and the analog pad interchangably.
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I to would say the Playstation controllers are the worst. The X-Box S controller was really good and the Gamecube one was probably my fave of the last gen. The Wii controller is stunning, the N64 controller I loved to bits. Had no problems with that...oops except one, the R trigger, you had to keep it pressed quite hard to aim, and slighlty letting go obviously had negative results, not good for Goldeneye.
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I like both, but my favorite is the original one that everybody seems to hate. I can see why the S controller has hained wider acceptance, but I really don't understand why the original controller is so universally reviled. It's very comfortable in my hands, and I really like the somewhat vertical layout of the 4 color buttons. I like the 360 controller too, although the slightly different layout of the A, B, X, & Y buttons has taken some getting used to.
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Personally I like the original one too, i guess my hands are big enough to enjoy it. i just wish that someone would make a six (thumb) button controller like the saturn ones but also include the four shoulder buttons of the 360 controller.
I never knew so many people disliked the PS2 controller. I have no problem with it. What do you people have? Giant gorilla hands?
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I have no problems with the size of the controller, but it does put my hands in an awkward position which leads to my wrists hurting.
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I've never had any problems with it either, which is why I defended it earlier, but after reading all the negative posts about it, I picked one up and realized, wow, I can see where they're coming from. With how the analog sticks are set up, getting a comfortable grip on the controller is almost impossible. It's something I never realized until it was pointed out to me.
I don't think it's at all the worst controller. I thought the dreamcast controller was horrible, and I hated that original xbox controller that people seem to be praising.
And I still hold my opinion that the Gamecube controller is very similar to a Dualshock, just with better trigger buttons...
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Can I just say this -- as a fan who has stuck with Nintendo through all the ups and downs of the past two generations, I am soooo happy to be posting this press release(s). It's been a long time coming for dedicated fans (fan, not fanboy) like myself. The empire strikes back!!
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NINTENDO RECORDS BEST HOLIDAY SELLING SEASON IN U.S. VIDEO GAME HISTORY
Virtually Every New Wii and Nintendo DS System Sold Out Across America
REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 11, 2007 – There has never been anything like it. Independent U.S. sales figures released by the NPD Group today confirmed a red-hot launch for the new Wii™ system by Nintendo, and the crowning of the portable Nintendo DS™ as the best-selling video game device of any type for both the holidays and all of 2006.
Along with stunning success for The Legend of ZeldaŪ: Twilight Princess and historic sales of accessories, including more than 1.5 million extra controllers for Wii alone, Nintendo recorded the most successful across-the-board holiday performance in U.S. video game history.
Among key results:
* Consumers purchased every Wii console available at retail—more than a million in just the 44 days between U.S. launch and year end.
* With sales of another 1.6 million systems in December alone, Nintendo DS achieved full year sell-through of 5.3 million.
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was purchased by an extraordinary 86 percent of Wii buyers, or more than 900,000 games for that system alone. Coupled with the companion version released in December for Nintendo GameCube™, the two versions of the newest Zelda title totaled approximately 1.5 million unit sales in less than seven weeks, which would represent one of the five best-selling games for the entire year.
* Wii owners also purchased an average of three additional games from a wide library of choices, in addition to the Wii Sports title packed in with every hardware system.
* Two Nintendo DS titles, New Super Mario Bros.Ū and Brain Age™: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day, also were top-10 sellers for the year.
* Throughout the November/December holiday shopping period, Nintendo accounted for more than half of all video game hardware systems sold in America.
Earlier this week, Nintendo increased its projected worldwide financial performance for the year ending on March 31 to be the best in company history.
“Millions of players, both hard-core and brand-new, are already enjoying the unique entertainment provided by Wii, but demand for the system remains incredibly high," says Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime. “So our work is just beginning. We're dedicating ourselves to maximizing both manufacturing and distribution full bore throughout 2007, to make sure everyone who wants to experience the future of video gaming can do so just as soon as possible."
The momentum behind Wii will continue unabated through the early weeks of 2007, with retail debuts of WarioWare™: Smooth Moves, Wii Play™ and Mario PartyŪ 8 from Nintendo; a host of third-party releases; and a steady stream of classic games made available via download with the Wii Shop Channel.
The worldwide innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co., Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its Wii™, Nintendo DS™, Game BoyŪ Advance and Nintendo GameCube™ systems. Since 1983, Nintendo has sold nearly 2.2 billion video games and more than 387 million hardware units globally, and has created industry icons like Mario™, Donkey KongŪ, MetroidŪ, Zelda™ and PokémonŪ. A wholly owned subsidiary, Nintendo of America Inc., based in Redmond, Wash., serves as headquarters for Nintendo's operations in the Western Hemisphere. For more information about Nintendo, visit the company's Web site at www.nintendo.com.
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Media Create Sales (For Japan)
DSL 344,878
Wii 195,331
PSP 118,186
PS3 69,944
PS2 52,037
Xbox360 18,235
GBM 3,311
GBASP 2,364
GC 1,258
DS 75
GBA 57
1. (NDS, Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - 266,827 / 860,820
2. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 166,011 / 732,719
3. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 141,702 / 664,512
4. (NDS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 128,211 / 3,986,506
5. (NDS, Nintendo) General Knowledge Training - 109,752 / 1,063,093
6. (NDS, Nintendo) Brain Age 2 - 99,320 / 3,805,787
7. (NDS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing - 94,917 / 3,843,832
8. (NDS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 94,370 / 2,479,819
9. (NDS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 93,522 / 836,588
10. (NDS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 78,398 / 2,054,443
TOP 30
NDS: 18
Wii: 6
PS2: 4
PSP: 2
TOP 50
NDS: 34
PS2: 6
Wii: 6
PSP: 3
PS3: 1
360: 0
Wow....PS3 did better than what was originally expected according to those figures.
It's good to hear that about Nintendo though. Even though I haven't always picked their systems over the competitors (I bought a PS2 instead of Gamecube, and I plan on getting a PS3 before I ever get a Wii) I've always had loads of respect for Nintendo. My first system was the NES back in the late 80's, and I had the SNES, and N64. Even though I never got a Gamecube, I always liked it as a system, and anytime Nintendo releases something, I hope for it to do well, even if it's not the system that I decide to buy in the end.
I just wish they would move their America HQ out of Redmond. There are too many bad things that come out of Redmond. *cough* Windows XP *cough*
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Well, my 360 just died on me.So much for launch hardware luck. I let my friend play Gears of War last Friday and that was the first time it ever froze on me. I restarted the console and it gave me the red lights of doom (I think that's what they call it). I unplugged the system and it worked for about 30 minutes and then it froze again. I heard there was a new live update so I downloaded the update today and now instead of freezing in the game, it freezes during startup. SIGH. It makes this static noise right before it freezes up.
Fortunately, I got the 2 year warranty from Best Buy when I purchased the system, but I was hoping that it would die AFTER there was a price drop in the premium system since all I was able to get was the core at launch.
By any chance, does anybody here work for Best Buy or purchased a Product Replacement plan and know how to go about replacing my 360? I heard it's suppose to be easy to do.
I'm a bit disappointed that after a year of owning the 360 and finally buying my second game, it dies on me. Glad I didn't test my luck on the PS3.
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Excellent news for Nintendo, that makes me really happy. I am glad Nintendo are finally getting back into gear and doing what they do best.
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Well, my 360 just died on me.
Fortunately, I got the 2 year warranty from Best Buy when I purchased the system, but I was hoping that it would die AFTER there was a price drop in the premium system since all I was able to get was the core at launch.
By any chance, does anybody here work for Best Buy or purchased a Product Replacement plan and know how to go about replacing my 360? I heard it's suppose to be easy to do.
I'm a bit disappointed that after a year of owning the 360 and finally buying my second game, it dies on me. Glad I didn't test my luck on the PS3.
I work for Best Buy, and its real easy. All you should have to do is go to the store with the system and all attachments and the box as well. Explain to the associate what happened and he/she will either tell you to get a new core system or you can request a store credit and use that towards the premium bundle, and then just pay the difference.
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That seems a lot easier than doing what it says on the paper stapled to my receipt. It says I have to either call or go online, file a claim for a voucher, wait for the voucher to come in the mail, and exchange the voucher for a Best Buy gift card.
Either way, now I'm thinking may be I should just get a PS3 and sell the hard drive and the two games I have...
Howdy
UK sales for Nintendo:
15th January 2007 Nintendos Wii and DS games consoles topped the must-have gifts chart this Christmas, with thousands flying off the shelves across Europe at an amazing rate throughout the festive period.
Record-breaking numbers of Nintendo DS and Wii consoles sold out as quickly as they could be restocked, proving that Europeans are embracing Nintendos revolutionary new take on gaming.
In the UK, independent sales figures released by Chart Track confirm Nintendos Wii and DS games consoles topped the must-have gifts this Christmas, in total almost 200,000 Wii consoles were sold in the UK over the Christmas period. Nintendo DS further cemented its status as the market leading hardware format in the UK for 2006. The total number of Nintendo DS units sold in the UK in December topped 500,000 making it not only the best selling console of any kind in the UK this Christmas - but the best selling console of any kind in 2006.*
In Europe, Nintendos consoles have been going from strength to strength over the last few months with the Nintendo DS and Wii accounting for over half of all European video game hardware sales in December.
Two years after its launch Nintendos dual-screened handheld console, the Nintendo DS is leading the console market in Europe. Nintendo DS enjoyed a record breaking Christmas experiencing its highest ever monthly sales since its launch in March 2005; 1.7 million units were sold across Europe during December making it the best selling games console in Europe across all formats, both in December and 2006, by a substantial margin.
Wii also took Europe by storm when it launched on 8th December 2006 and became the fastest selling games console in European history after its first weekend. In a matter of days Wii was totally sold out across the continent. Since launch Nintendo has been continually shipping more stock to retail outlets to meet unprecedented demand from both gamers and non-gamers alike. Despite selling out faster than it could be restocked, over 700,000 Wii consoles were snapped up across Europe in December 2006.
Wii software has performed equally well with more than 500,000 copies of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess sold in December, meaning that over 70% of Wii owners purchased this game. Wii Play has seen similar success with 320,000 copies sold to date, accounting for 45% of all Wii owners and showing that playing together was a priority for over half of Wii gamers thanks to the Wii Remote bundled with the game.
Laurent Fischer, Marketing Director for Nintendo of Europe commented:
"We have enjoyed one of the most successful Christmas holidays ever, with both Nintendo DS and Wii selling at staggering rates. The success of our products this Christmas clearly shows that Nintendos drive to make gaming accessible to everyone has attracted people of all ages and abilities to the industry. We are facing such high demand for both platforms that unfortunately we are facing stock shortages; however we are doing everything possible to combat this by attempting to deliver both consoles and games to retailers on a daily basis."
Last week, Nintendo increased its projected worldwide financial performance for the year ending on March 31 to be the best in company history.
Wii launched across Europe on 8th December 2006 and retails at an estimated retail price of 250 (Ģ179 UK) with Wii Sports. Nintendo DS and DS Lite are available across Europe at an estimated retail price of 130 - 150 (Ģ89 - Ģ99 UK).
Click onto www.Wii.com for all of the most up to date official information on Wii.
* Hardware Source - Chart Track: Month 12 Year 2006 26th November - 30th December 2006.
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/e...ZSZke9TCOk4AHy
Excellent news
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Gabe Newell, founder and president of Valve, has called the PlayStation3 a ītotal disasterī and urged Sony to can the entire project.
Newell spoke his mind in an interview with Game Informer (quote transcribed by Gek54) and went on to say that Wii will probably overtake the Xbox360 this year.
Gameinformer: What about the PS3?
Gabe Newell: The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers wanted and what developers wanted. I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a "do over". Just say, "This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it". The happy story is the Wii. I'm betting that by Christmas of next year, the Wii has a larger installed base than the 360. Other people think I'm crazy. I really like everthing that Nintendo is doing.
And in other news, Sony points and laughs at the time and money spent on the Steam platform.
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I agree that the PS3 is probably a disaster. There have been 3 sitting on my Wal-mart shelf for over a week. I haven't seen a Wii on a shelf yet. However, as for the Wii taking over the 360, that's tough to say. I enjoy playing my Wii, but I still enjoy playing my 360 much more. It's just a good mix of graphics, gameplay, online play, and multimedia at a fair price.
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I hope they make it for the Wii
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Maybe we'll see some Valve games on the virtual console?
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Well, it may be a little premature to call it a TOTAL disaster, but yeah, it is far from a runaway hit.
The system is just so overpriced and so full of stuff that most people don't really want/need at this point, that it doesn't matter if it "only" costs $600 and the tech inside of it is technically worth over $1,000 or some crap, people just don't want to pay $600 to start with.
I honestly wonder how things will pan out for Sony in the long run.
I mean, the system is pretty easy to come by, and they were SHORT on how many systems were initially coming out. So, that doesn't bode well for them.
And the thing is that most of the heavy hitting exclusive titles from PS2 were still made by 3rd party companies. Titles like the Final Fantasy games and Metal Gear, etc.
Now, with PS2 being number 1 by a HUGE margin, it wasn't a big deal for these games to be PS2 exclusive. There was more than enough of an audience there to make sure the games would profit without going multi-platform.
But, in this day and age, even an average game with an average amount of time, energy, and money needs to sell so many copies to gain a profit and be considered a hit. And with games like the Final Fantasies, Metal Gears, etc, usually being of higher quality and greater depth, thus requiring more time, money, energy, and resources to go into them, they need even more sales than the average game to be a success.
And with Sony's PS3 penetrating the market at a much slower rate than I'm sure they anticipated, this could result in not enough systems being out there (and therefore, enough people who would buy them... keeping in mind that even for the MOST popular title, not every owner of the system is going to go out and buy it) and therefore not enough potential sales for the game to make a profit while remaining exclusive.
Thus, the result will be the games either becoming exclusive to another system or just going multi-platform in general.
And if this happens with most of Sony's heavy hitting titles, then that leaves even less of a reason for people for people to even get PS3. Thus, allowing the sales to dwindle even further. It could be a vicious cycle of doom.
In that scenario, the only real way for Sony to pull itself out of this rut would be to create some really good, heavy-hitting first party exclusive titles. But, even IronAvatar, one of the strongest supporters of Sony amongst those who frequently post in this thread, has made comments on how their first part material isn't usually very good.
So, that doesn't leave Sony with much of a leg to stand on.
Now, it is possible that things could turn around for them. But I think it will require quite the miracle for that to happen.
At any rate, I felt and often stated long before the systems launched that the PS3 would most likely prove to be lackluster, and sure enough, that's pretty much what it has been.
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