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    Granymer (Sp?) vs. Horde Prime

    In his appearances in the classic He-Man cartoon, Granymer came across as more powerful than any other being on Eternia. He easily defeated He-Man. However, He-Man taught him some lessons in morals, and Granymer went from the typical arrogant dragon to a more good natured being. Certainly, he had become a force for good on Eternia.

    In their shared appearances in the She-Ra cartoon, Hordak was downright snivelling in Horde Prime's presence. Clearly, Horde Prime could have defeated Hordak just as easily as Granymer had defeated He-Man.

    So... who would win the one-on-one fight between the most powerful force of good on Eternia, and the most powerful force of evil from She-Ra's show?
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    Odd place for this as neither appeared in the new show (I suspect this thread might get moved to the classic forum), but it is an interesting idea. Granamyr has shown that he is immensely powerful in the past, while Horde Prime has an entire empire to back him up and thus far has remained untested. Granamyr is powerful, but he isn't the most powerful being in the universe. I'd probably go with Horde Prime utilising his forces and trickery to defeat Granamyr, but Granamyr would go down fighting and die a noble death.

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    Granamyr all powerfull in magic and Horde Prime in technology. We don't even know what Horde Prime looks like or what his size or power are. If I had to pick one I would have to go with Granamyr. He is a big dragon so he is a major physical force to deal with and the magic he has is so powerfull as well as his knowledge and wisdom as he is very old.

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    Well as far as size goes, Horde Prime appears to be bigger.

    Here's the thing though, if Granamyr is stronger, why does he let a monster like Horde Prime continue to dominate and harm the universe? More importantly, if he's that powerful why do we even bother with He-Man or She-Ra as our heroes?

    Granamyr isn't happy with humans, but he's not a cad who doesn't care about the suffering of non-dragon kind. I think he's annoyed with humans because they cause much of their own suffering (and the suffering of others). Naturally he'd be against Horde Prime, so there'd have to be a bigger reason for why he's not working against such a villain. Possibly he's wise enough to know that HP will destroy himself or that HP's destruction must happen at the hands of the people he oppresses (or else another tyrant will replace him for sure).

    Mostly, I think it's like Yoda vs. the Emperor. It can't be a 'no contest' where our favorite hero can easily beat the bad guy. If that happens then there is no story.

    As far as the new continuities goes, how about Horde Prime vs Granamyr vs Serpos? Or what about Sortech vs Horde Prime?
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    Brute strength i would have to side with Horde prime, but knowledge and magic granamyr has horde prime beat hands down.

    in a battle i could see horde prime pulling out some weapon where it would neutralize granamyrs magic for a while and then lace some fists of fury into him. unless granamyr was ready and could counter it and just melt horde primes metal frame with his fire breath.

    in the end.... it would depend on what type of battle either being physical or magical.
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    For what it's worth I personally consider the dragon that we saw KGS "overcome" in "The Power of Grayskull" to be Granamyr.

    My fans may feel free to speculate on the repercussions of that statement

    As far as who's more powerful, I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it to Horde Prime, but then I'm one of his supporters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok
    Well as far as size goes, Horde Prime appears to be bigger.

    Here's the thing though, if Granamyr is stronger, why does he let a monster like Horde Prime continue to dominate and harm the universe? More importantly, if he's that powerful why do we even bother with He-Man or She-Ra as our heroes?

    Granamyr isn't happy with humans, but he's not a cad who doesn't care about the suffering of non-dragon kind. I think he's annoyed with humans because they cause much of their own suffering (and the suffering of others). Naturally he'd be against Horde Prime, so there'd have to be a bigger reason for why he's not working against such a villain. Possibly he's wise enough to know that HP will destroy himself or that HP's destruction must happen at the hands of the people he oppresses (or else another tyrant will replace him for sure).

    Mostly, I think it's like Yoda vs. the Emperor. It can't be a 'no contest' where our favorite hero can easily beat the bad guy. If that happens then there is no story.

    As far as the new continuities goes, how about Horde Prime vs Granamyr vs Serpos? Or what about Sortech vs Horde Prime?
    Granamyr doesn't interfere in the trifles of mortals..thats why we need he-man. as for why he doesn't go after horde prime, Granamyr is on eternia, HP never came to Eternia to threaten Dragon civilization...if he did HP would be toast. if HP was all that powerful then why bother relying on hordak to get rid of the rebellion? just do it yourelf after hordak failed for the umpteenth time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cimmerian
    Granamyr doesn't interfere in the trifles of mortals..thats why we need he-man. as for why he doesn't go after horde prime, Granamyr is on eternia, HP never came to Eternia to threaten Dragon civilization...if he did HP would be toast. if HP was all that powerful then why bother relying on hordak to get rid of the rebellion? just do it yourelf after hordak failed for the umpteenth time.
    See, this is the attitude regarding Horde Prime that has always confused me. From my perspective Horde Prime doesn't take on Etheria himself (often anyway), for the simple reason that he has a GALACTIC SCALE empire and conquest to run.

    He's DESIGNATED a warlord to take over Etheria (Hordak), and so it's HORDAK'S problem. Etheria might be a really cool world, but there's probably thousands of others in Horde Prime's grip that are equally important.

    Etheria just happens to be guarded by a muscle-bound-alien-female-guardian who makes sure Hordak keeps embarassing himself over and over. The Horde WAS sitting pretty on Etheria before she showed up after all, it's not so much that Hordak (let alone HP) is weak or incompotent, She-Ra is just waaay over powered.

    Upper management doesn't ever bother with the trival day-to-day details that mid-management and the worker-bees are there to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok
    Well as far as size goes, Horde Prime appears to be bigger.

    Here's the thing though, if Granamyr is stronger, why does he let a monster like Horde Prime continue to dominate and harm the universe? More importantly, if he's that powerful why do we even bother with He-Man or She-Ra as our heroes?

    Granamyr isn't happy with humans, but he's not a cad who doesn't care about the suffering of non-dragon kind. I think he's annoyed with humans because they cause much of their own suffering (and the suffering of others). Naturally he'd be against Horde Prime, so there'd have to be a bigger reason for why he's not working against such a villain. Possibly he's wise enough to know that HP will destroy himself or that HP's destruction must happen at the hands of the people he oppresses (or else another tyrant will replace him for sure).

    Mostly, I think it's like Yoda vs. the Emperor. It can't be a 'no contest' where our favorite hero can easily beat the bad guy. If that happens then there is no story.

    As far as the new continuities goes, how about Horde Prime vs Granamyr vs Serpos? Or what about Sortech vs Horde Prime?
    Great points. I'm not familiar with Serpos, or Sortech (or, at least, their names aren't ringing a bell for me).
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