DC Universe Classics Figure Frustration

[markatisu]

Its between 30-40% right now, so revealing some of the figures spiked it 10-20%

[Patreek]

Wow... it still has a long way to go.

[King Kahn]

still.

they should have given this explanation at sdcc.
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yeah they should have it would have helped a lot. However, I am betting even MATTEL didn't know all the details and they have been pulling it out of their bum since then.

[markatisu]

yeah they should have it would have helped a lot. However, I am betting even MATTEL didn't know all the details and they have been pulling it out of their bum since then.

Yup, I think Mattel did the best it could with the whole "you want us to do WHAT to the line?!?!" news they got from DC

Although I think they should have just said we are going to offer a DCUC subscription and we will have more details in a few days.

Sometimes in a rush to get information out to fans I think they really botch the PR delivery by not having it all or getting it wrong.

Had they said we will have a sub, then showed some of the figures, and then explained it like today I think people would be much more receptive.

[krosfyah]

i would love to get a sub, I've just gotten addicted to this line but I can't afford it and MOTUC. and MOTUC is where my heart is.

[gbagok]

It's too late now, but they could only have sold this sub if they had shown all the planned figures for the whole year on display at SDCC as they did for Voltron. It needed to be a killer roster too. They needed to show fans this Poison Ivy figure along with Metron, Jay, Atrocitus, anything that isn't that Starman figure, and then maybe they'd have attracted the 100% they claim to need (I'm not convinced that whatever "100%" means, it isn't an arbitrary number).

I doubt even just name dropping would be enough for the fans who resent the idea of the sub however. They're not MOTU fans, they don't have the stomach for what we've endured! I kid, but with MOTUC, we MOTU fans knew it was our only shot at new product. The entire brand was done if that failed. I think we were hungry (and the figures were damned fine eating too, not some pathetic scraps for dogs either). Plus we'd been frustrated by the online buying experience, so the sub was like a Godsend to us. But DC fans have DC Direct, and they've enjoyed 20 waves of this line already--for better or for worse. It may be the line's end has come, despite the lingering enthusiasm of some and a really gargantuan-NBC-canceling-original-Star Trek-stupid move by DC itself.

BTW, the only DCnU figure I might have given a second look to was a new Wonder Woman in the modern outfit, so of course "females" aren't expected to be in the retail line anymore. I don't get kids and their parents. Sexism doesn't even make sense because when I was a kid, I wanted girl figures at least to be saved (yeah, sorry ladies, I cast you in damsel in distress roles a lot). James Bond had certainly taught five-year-old me that the hero is worthless if he can't kiss the girl at the end of the day. Oh wait, now I'm thinking of that scene in Spaceballs...maybe that's another reason parents won't buy girl figures.

[Patreek]

Yea I agree... I kinda think they should just reveal the names of the final characters and let the reveals of what they look like in figure form be the fun thing later. At least this first year.

[Shadow_Contact]

Hey Gbagok, I'll let that Starman hate slide this once............

[Sword-of-Grayskull]

Speaking as someone who isn't going to buy a sub, money is just plain too tight in this economy to drop another $255 for a line I'll probably only want half of. With MOTUC, there are only 2 characters I really don't want (Rio Blast and Ram Man), so the vast majority of the purchases are worth it. DC, however, has a lot of goofy characters and characters I've never even heard of. For example ... does anyone really want a figure of Katanna from the original Outsiders roster? A hero with an unsightly costume whose only power is her ability to wield a sword? I have plenty of sword-wielding hero figures, thank you, and all of them look cooler than that superhero. In another example, I had never even heard of the Bronze Tiger because I've never had the opportunity to sample the classic Suicide Squad (no TPBs of it, unfortunately). I can think of a lot better places to put my very limited money than into those two characters. So cherry-picking is an absolute essential for those of us strapped for cash. I've never read the JSA run with that Starman, so I know I'll be wasting at least $20 if I buy the sub, probably more since I have most of the DC characters I enjoy in figure form. There's only about 20 characters left that I want, truth be told (most of them Green Lantern Corps members), and I doubt Mattel's line-up will match with my dream one. Add to that the death of my enthusiasm for the line due to the inexcusably poor quality control over the past few waves, and you have a recipe for many of us choosing to instead put our money into Thundercats Classics or upcoming Transformers Generations figures.

[MegaGearMax]

Speaking as someone who isn't going to buy a sub, money is just plain too tight in this economy to drop another $255 for a line I'll probably only want half of. With MOTUC, there are only 2 characters I really don't want (Rio Blast and Ram Man), so the vast majority of the purchases are worth it. DC, however, has a lot of goofy characters and characters I've never even heard of. For example ... does anyone really want a figure of Katanna from the original Outsiders roster? A hero with an unsightly costume whose only power is her ability to wield a sword? I have plenty of sword-wielding hero figures, thank you, and all of them look cooler than that superhero. In another example, I had never even heard of the Bronze Tiger because I've never had the opportunity to sample the classic Suicide Squad (no TPBs of it, unfortunately). I can think of a lot better places to put my very limited money than into those two characters. So cherry-picking is an absolute essential for those of us strapped for cash. I've never read the JSA run with that Starman, so I know I'll be wasting at least $20 if I buy the sub, probably more since I have most of the DC characters I enjoy in figure form. There's only about 20 characters left that I want, truth be told (most of them Green Lantern Corps members), and I doubt Mattel's line-up will match with my dream one. Add to that the death of my enthusiasm for the line due to the inexcusably poor quality control over the past few waves, and you have a recipe for many of us choosing to instead put our money into Thundercats Classics or upcoming Transformers Generations figures.

But, I want a Katana...

I also want Soranik Natu and Arisia.

[RocketPunch]

I want Katana, and i'm only know familiar with the character thanks to the Brave and the Bold cartoon.

I'd like figures of Doc Magnus and Doctor Sivana too, but they have even less chance of getting made.

[Thatman]

I'd take Katana - I have all the original issues of Outsiders. I'd take that whole team, actually (well, never really cared for Looker, but you get the drift.)

I sympathize that Mattel didn't have a lot of warning or say over this change, but even still, they could have handled this better. But they're applying MOTU logic to the DC brand, and playing the coy little "it's a secret" game, and I think it's going to burn them on this...which of course really only burns the fans who want the figures.

Personally, I'd rather see Mattel just offer an online wave - Ivy, Starman, Flash, Atrocitus, two others and Metron, or whomever, and if that sells well enough, get people to blind-preorder the next wave, so at least that way we get something.

I'm at the point where, though I'm willing to buy any new character, there's only a small number I actively WANT - so I totally get where people are coming from for not wanting to commit to a whole year sight unseen.

[Heidi]

I haven't read the whole thread, so this might have already been discussed about (sorry about that). But I don't understand why wouldn't Mattel just publish the most fan wanted characters without a subcription-system (like Poison Ivy or Katana) on Mattycollector? If the first MOTUC figures were profitable without a sub, why couldn't they do the same with the remaining DCUC fan favorites?

[markatisu]

I haven't read the whole thread, so this might have already been discussed about (sorry about that). But I don't understand why wouldn't Mattel just publish the most fan wanted characters without a subcription-system (like Poison Ivy or Katana) on Mattycollector? If the first MOTUC figures were profitable without a sub, why couldn't they do the same with the remaining DCUC fan favorites?

Because DCUC is notorious for cherry pickers when the items go online at Matty, they have to be able to guarantee the production numbers or else they will be stuck with the stock and take a loss.

The first MOTUC figures were profitable because they sold out every time, they did 6 then decided to do more then a half sub then a full sub

DC's license most likely does not allow them to just say "we will do 3 characters and see how it goes", its either a one shot sub where they can guarantee a production number and pay the licensee or its nothing at all. The past 2 years of DCUC and JLU on Matty were to prove to them that the fans would support online sales, that failed horribly as JLU crashed and burned and DCUC did not do much better. Had they sold out everything the same way MOTUC we would not even be entertaining any of this debacle.

MOTUC they can do what they want with because they own the characters, they own the rights. A lot of people are forgetting they own nothing for DC, its all licensed = completely different set of rules legally and financially. Each licensee has their say and I am guessing helps subsidize things (aka helps pay the cost)

[krosfyah]

I would love to see Katana and Lady Shiva

[Heidi]

Thanks for the explanation, markatisu! I can see the license-part making things more complicated for Mattel.

I'm feeling that DCUC has run it's course and there's no point in trying to bring more age to the line. I could see Mattel selling a sub that consists of the most wanted characters that haven't been released yet, but with the lesser known characters included I can definately understand fans not jumping in with the sub.

[Kevenn]

I only want Jay Garrick. It's not practical for me to sign up for a $200+ subscription to get only one figure that I want.

[Teelor]

I only want Jay Garrick. It's not practical for me to sign up for a $200+ subscription to get only one figure that I want.

I want that figure too. Jay's my favorite Flash. Have you seen the 13" figure of him. I own it, and it is SWEET.

[Kevenn]

I want that figure too. Jay's my favorite Flash. Have you seen the 13" figure of him. I own it, and it is SWEET.

I haven't seen the 13 inch figure of him. If the subscription was just the 9 regular figures, I'd probably bite the bullet and get the other 8 just for the Jay Garrick, but because it includes all the expensive larger figures, it's just not worth it to me.

[Teelor]

I haven't seen the 13 inch figure of him. If the subscription was just the 9 regular figures, I'd probably bite the bullet and get the other 8 just for the Jay Garrick, but because it includes all the expensive larger figures, it's just not worth it to me.

I agree on all counts!

Here's a shot of the larger jay figure. He's amazing: http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/g...8337763-35.php

[Dr Kain]

I only want Jay Garrick. It's not practical for me to sign up for a $200+ subscription to get only one figure that I want.

Then go buy the DCD one.

[Wonderboy_JMB]

Then go buy the DCD one.

DCD aren't compatible with DCUC. They're too tall and shiny and don't have the articulation. I dropped DCD when I started with DCUC.

Add me to the list of Katanna supporters, but there again we see the problem of cherry picking. One fan has no interest, one would kill for one. I'm not interested in Atrocitus, but a bunch of others, out of the characters revealed, ONLY want Atrocitus. I bought the sub because regardless, I NEED certain figures in my collection and this is the ONLY way I can get them. I can unload the ones I don't want, but should the sub not happen, I won't in any way, be able to add Jay Garrick, etc. to my collection. I wish more people would look at it that way.

[wyldman11]

DCD aren't compatible with DCUC. They're too tall and shiny and don't have the articulation. I dropped DCD when I started with DCUC.

Add me to the list of Katanna supporters, but there again we see the problem of cherry picking. One fan has no interest, one would kill for one. I'm not interested in Atrocitus, but a bunch of others, out of the characters revealed, ONLY want Atrocitus. I bought the sub because regardless, I NEED certain figures in my collection and this is the ONLY way I can get them. I can unload the ones I don't want, but should the sub not happen, I won't in any way, be able to add Jay Garrick, etc. to my collection. I wish more people would look at it that way.

Personally I just don't want to deal with dumping figures I don't want. Add to that there are figures that were released I wanted/needed for my collection that I never saw and don't have. And it seems most people I come across opened it for the CnC piece and I am a on card collector.

[Dr Kain]

DCD aren't compatible with DCUC. They're too tall and shiny and don't have the articulation. I dropped DCD when I started with DCUC.

Add me to the list of Katanna supporters, but there again we see the problem of cherry picking. One fan has no interest, one would kill for one. I'm not interested in Atrocitus, but a bunch of others, out of the characters revealed, ONLY want Atrocitus. I bought the sub because regardless, I NEED certain figures in my collection and this is the ONLY way I can get them. I can unload the ones I don't want, but should the sub not happen, I won't in any way, be able to add Jay Garrick, etc. to my collection. I wish more people would look at it that way.

Well I would rather have a DCD one than no version at all.

[Wonderboy_JMB]

Well I would rather have a DCD one than no version at all.

I guess, if you just want any action figure of a character, but they're two different lines that are incompatible. I have a bunch of DCD figures like Vixen, Dr. Light, Fire & Ice and Batwoman, and I'm glad I have them and that they were made, but I still want DCUC versions, because DCUC are the figures I actually have on display.