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    Masters of the Universe - A New Vision



    This whole new take on the MOTU universe actually came about whilst I was in the chat room talking with fellow orger Darth Latveria. The topic of discussion had started off about our own fan characters that we had either completed or were currently working on, then for some reason the topic of things we don’t like in MOTU came up. Because, for some unknown reason, we share a similarities in views, we agreed on almost everything that each of us said we did not like. That is when I came up with the idea for us to recreate MOTU from the ground up. Keeping the heart of MOTU intact, whilst giving a whole new spin on it. Basically, we would create a series bible of sorts, sticking to a few basic ground rules and writing up bios and origins for the main characters.

    What we strive to do is take a concept that is inherently unrealistic and treat it as realistically as possible. When looking at characters and concepts like Skeletor, He-Man, Castle Grayskull and Beast Man, we suspend belief enough to accept their existence, but when trying to figure out what they do, we base it on how people would realistically react under a set of given circumstances. For instance, in a world where there are laser guns, why would anyone ever decide to use a sword? Outside of a person like He-Man, who has special skills and a special sword, no one would use these melee weapons. So realistically, warriors wouldn’t use both of these weapon types (as is the case in our world, after all, when’s the last time we saw a marine charge into battle with an axe?). Issues such as these, as well as personal preferences, led to the ground rules which follow.

    These ground rules, which were decided very early into the project, were things that we both agreed either worked or did not work in our new vision of MOTU. Firstly, and most importantly, there would be absolutely no technology in Eternia. It would be pure sword and sorcery. Now some people may hear this and say that’s “it’s nothing but Conan then”, but we must disagree with this. Conan, LOTR and 300 all have similar worlds of magic and weaponry, yet they’re completely different movies and concepts. In our view, what sets MOTU apart from other words of fantasy isn’t just the technology; it is the characters, places and concepts that compose its mythology. As a consequence of removing technology from MOTU, certain characters will not exist at all in our version of the story, such as Roboto (although Trapjaw will still be involved). Another obvious consequence of this is that all the vehicles will be gone and Hordak will no longer be a transformer wannabe, he’ll be pure magic (which lets face it is just better anyway).

    The next rule, which we’re sure will cause quite a stir, is She-Ra will not be realted to Adam who shall remain an only child and he will be the only hero to be granted powers by Castle Grayskull. Another of the notable changes is that the Horde Prime character will not be separate from Hordak. Here the term “Horde Prime” will be a title given to Hordak himself, similar to our usage of the word “king”. The Horde will be nearly unrecognizable because it will not use any technology that is more advanced than what we on Earth had during medieval times. Speaking about Earth, we made a rule regarding Earth too. For the purposes of this project, Earth does not exist. Therefore, Marlena is a native of Eternia.

    The villains as a whole will be different from what we have seen before. Although they may look the same and have mostly recognisable origins, their temperaments and attitudes will differ greatly. They will be killers, utterly vile and loathsome. Furthermore, they won’t all be utterly incompetent. Naturally some of them will be stupid, but a number of them will be quite intelligent.

    In general, many characters will be based on a combination of what we saw in MYP and the Filmation series. A lot of characters (the ones that we decided to use) will be relatively unchanged, except with the addition of a few more character flaws and such, to add some realism to the series. For instance, He-Man will still have a heart of gold and be a great man, but at times he will be overconfident and somewhat likely to rely on brawn over brains. Teela will still be pretty much who she always was, but she won’t be captain of the guard because it seems absurd for an 18 year old to be given such a high stature.

    However, some characters will be almost completely changed, such as Man-E-Faces. Mekaneck may also make an early appearance, but the circumstances of his participation we’ll keep to ourselves for now.

    The final and most important aspect of this is that this isn’t a sickly sweet children’s fantasy. This is a world in war, where people find tooth and nail with swords, axes, maces and anything else they can get their hands on. There are injuries and there is death. This is a world where battles such as the ones seen in 300 are commonplace. The world is at war, and war isn’t pretty. However, for the purposes of the org, none of the writing will include graphic violence (well not overly graphic).

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    There are a number of characters that we definitely want to include in the series bible, but some we don’t have much of an affinity for, others we just might not have fresh ideas for and some we simply might not have time to work on. For these characters (list coming shortly), we’d appreciate it if some of you guys took a try on them and submitted a bio for them.

    For this alternate MOTU universe, we’re also incorporating fan created characters, as long as they follow these important rules:

    1) Absolutely no technology - science and technology levels are equivalent to what is found in movies such as LOTR, 300 and Conan.
    2) Hordak is the Supreme Ruler of the Horde. Horde Prime is simply a title he uses on occasion.
    3) No Earth.
    4) More Gritty and Violent then past MOTU

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    Please check back soon for exciting new updates.

    Any questions about this, or a request to be a part if this exciting new venture, can be put to either myself or Darth Latveria in this thread or via a PM.

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    Characters Done

    ETERNIA

    Heroic Warriors

    Ant-Arctic
    Battle-Cat/Cringer (part of He-Man bio)
    Bat-Ler
    Buzz-Off
    Calisman
    Clamp Champ
    Dragos
    Ferat
    Fisto
    He-Man/Prince Adam
    Javel
    King Sun - Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 & 5 Part 6 & 7
    Knight of Grayskull - Part 1 Part 2
    Lizard Man
    Lord Rodantus and Gutsy
    Man-At-Arms
    Man-E-Faces
    Mekaneck
    Orko
    Ram Man
    Rio (Rio Blast)
    Roboto
    Snout Spout
    Sorceress
    Stratos
    Strider
    Sy-Klone
    Teela
    Tidal
    WarLock
    Wolfsfang


    Evil Warriors

    An-Gar / Wrath
    Arc-Tick
    Beast Man
    Blade
    The Changer
    Evil Lyn
    Faker
    Fang Man
    Jitsu
    Karg
    Keldor/Skeletor
    Mer Man
    Ninjor
    Panthor
    Scare Glow
    Spikor
    Stinkor
    Terror Fly
    Trap Jaw
    Triklops
    Two-Bad
    Webstor
    Whiplash

    - - - - - - - - - -

    ETHERIA


    Rebels

    Bow
    Castaspella
    Light Hope
    Sea Hawk
    Sha-Man
    She-Ra
    Skaldor

    Horde

    Catra
    Double Trouble
    Grizzlor
    Hordak
    Imp
    Leech
    Mantenna
    Modulok
    Mosquitor
    Shadow Weaver

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    Snakemen

    King Hiss

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    part 4
    Part 5
    Part 6

    Kobra Kahn

    - - - - - -- - - - - -

    Others

    Good

    Captain Egidious Bara
    Flutterina
    Granamyr and the Dragons of Darksmoke
    Gwildor
    He-Ro
    Marleena
    Royal Family (part of Keldor bio)
    Teral
    Zodac

    Bludaxe

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4
    Part 5


    Evil

    Count Marzo
    He
    Saurod
    Thanatos
    War-Hog

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    The Sentinels of Eternia

    The Berserker
    Claudius
    Gerald
    Kairos
    Marcus

    - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Knights of Grayskull

    Alie
    Delga

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    The Knight Mages

    Sir Seror
    Sir Sori

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    SPECIALS

    Stories

    PRETERNIA / PRETHERIA

    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part One
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Two
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Three
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Four
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Five
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Six
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Seven
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Eight
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Nine
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Nine 1/2
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Ten
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Part Eleven
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Twelve
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Epilogue (Part One)
    She-Ra: Tales of Pretheria - Epilogue (part Two)

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    THE GREAT WAR

    Royal Heirs - Part One
    Royal Heirs - Part Two
    Royal Heirs - Part Three
    Royal Heirs - Part Four

    The Havoc Staff

    Beastly Meetings - Part One
    Beastly Meetings - Part Two
    Beastly Meetings - Part Three
    Beastly Meetings - Part Four
    Beastly Meetings - Part Five

    The Taking of Snake Mountain


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    MODERN ETERNIA / ETHERIA


    She-Ra Revisited - Part One
    She-Ra Revisited - Part Two
    She-Ra Revisited - Part Three
    She-Ra Revisited - Part Four
    She-Ra Revisited - Part Five
    She-Ra Revisited - Epilogue


    The Story of An-Gar

    Flowers for Hordak

    Princely Duties - Part One
    Princely Duties - Part Two
    Princely Duties - Part Three
    Princely Duties - Part Four
    Princely Duties - Part Five
    Princely Duties - Part Six
    Princely Duties - Part Seven

    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part I
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part II
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part III
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part IV
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part V
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part VI
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part VII
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part VIII
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part IX
    Things That Go Bump In The Night – And Then Rip Your Arms Off – Part X

    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 1
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 2
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 3
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 4
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 5
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 6
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 7
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 8 - Part 8 (cont)
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 9
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Part 10
    The Hunt for the Dark Heart Stone - Epilogue



    Upgrades: A Tale of He-Man vs. Skeletor -- Part 1
    Upgrades: A Tale of He-Man vs. Skeletor -- Part 2
    Upgrades: A Tale of He-Man vs. Skeletor -- Part 3
    Upgrades: A Tale of He-Man vs. Skeletor -- Epilogue

    The Kidnappers

    A Night in the Palace

    Rio vs Saurod: The Fastest Draw in Eternia - Part 1
    Rio vs Saurod: The Fastest Draw in Eternia - Part 2
    Rio vs Saurod: The Fastest Draw in Eternia - Part 3
    Rio vs Saurod: The Fastest Draw in Eternia - Part 4

    The Tale of Kadroh: Part 1

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    Behind the Scenes

    PART ONE
    PART TWO
    PART THREE
    PART FOUR
    PART FIVE
    PART SIX
    PART SEVEN

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    Race Histories

    Avians
    Caligars
    Gars
    Humans
    Speleans

    History of the Covenant

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    Despondos

    A dimension that doesn’t follow the rules of physics. The dimension is comprised of mists and shadows, no one knowing what the source of light in the dimension is. Those sent there spend the rest of eternity, floating in an empty, timeless void.

    Eternia

    A planet with peoples that can trace their origins thousands of years into the past. Eternia is home to a number of varied creatures and locations, a testament to the affects that natural magic has on a planet.

    Over the years, a number of important events and milestones have occurred. What follows is a partial timeline that highlights some of the most important events in Eternian history. Not that BPA and APA refer to “Before Prince Adam’s Birth” and “After Prince Adam’s Birth”.

    • Approximately 3000 BPA – King Hiss rises to power. During this time, a young man who would come to be known as He-Ro was the first in history to harness what would come to be known as the Power of Grayskull. He-Ro used this power to eventually destroy King Hiss and topple the Snakeman Dynasty, but tragically He-Ro’s life was also cut short.
    • Approximately 2000 BPA – The next person to harness the Power of Grayskull was King Grayskull, a man whose name would become synonymous with the power. During these years, King Grayskull constructed a castle, that would also share his name. Grayskull, born a barbarian, rose to be king. Eventually, a man named Hordak came to Eternia and started a war that would leave millions dead. In their final battle, Grayskull was able to banish Hordak to Despondos, but at the cost of his own life.
    • Between 1000 BPA and the Present – A peasant girl, named Teelana, becomes the new Sorceress of Grayskull. Not much is known about when she took the position or her past prior to her becoming the Sorceress.
    • 62 BPA – Birth of Miro
    • 37 BPA – Birth of Man-At-Arms.
    • 37 BPA – Birth of Keldor.
    • 36 BPA – Hordak returns to Eternia.
    • 33 BPA – The Gar nobility is shattered and Gar society is practically destroyed due to a war that started under uncertain circumstances. The only survivors of the Gar Royal Family are Prince Keldor and his mother, Queen Acacia.
    • 32 BPA – Remnants of Gar nobility take refuge with the Eternian Royal Court. Shortly thereafter, Queen Acacia falls in love with King Miro and they marry.
    • 30 BPA – Birth of Randor.
    • 29 BPA – Birth of Marlena.
    • 5 - 2 BPA – The Great War: Wanting to be ruler of Eternia, Keldor starts the Great War. During this time, the King Miro and his wife are killed, leaving King Randor as the new King of Eternia. There are rumors that Keldor was once in a position where he would’ve been able to kill King Randor but chose not to. Towards the end of the Great War, Keldor was pushed back into the Dark Hemisphere and a magical barrier was erected to protect the rest of Eternia. Keldor is never seen again.
    • 1 BPA – Teela is born. The circumstances of her birth are uncertain, but what is known is that Man-At-Arms was chosen to be her step father.
    • 0 BPA – Prince Adam is born.
    • 17 BPA – The darkness returns to Eternia. The barrier separating the dark and light hemispheres is destroyed and a new threat to Eternia, named Skeletor, emerges. During this time, a new hero arises, named He-Man.


    Etheria

    A planet very similar to Eternia, but on another dimensional plane. Etheria was once a beautiful planet, but the rise of Hordak has sullied her once natural beauty. What follows is a brief timeline of important events in Etherian history.

    • 2044 BPA – Hordak is born into the Etherian Royal Family
    • 2024 BPA – Hordak kills his family during the ceremony of rightful succession and becomes the new king of Etheria. The next couple of decades are a time of darkness and dread in Etheria, which becomes known as Horde World.
    • Approximately 2000 BPA – Hordak travels through a magic portal to Eternia, intending to absorb it into his empire. The end result is Hordak being sent banished to Despondos.
    • Approximately 2000 BPA - 45 BPA – The few surviving members of the Etherian Royal Family, distant cousins of Hordak, take back control of Etheria in Hordak’s absence. Order is restored and the damage done during Hordak’s reign is eventually fixed.
    • 60 BPA – Angella is born
    • 51 BPA – Hordak escapes Despondos and returns to Etheria.
    • 45 BPA – Hordak mounts an attack on the Etherian family, regaining control of Etheria. Young Angella technically becomes Queen, because she is the only member of her family that survives the onslaught.
    • 36 BPA – Hordak returns to Eternia to pick up where he left off. Over the next few decades he makes frequent trips back and forth between Eternia and Etheria.
    • 1 BPA – Hordak is sent back to Etheria and is unable to return to Eternia. The circumstances surrounding this event are unknown.


    Power of Grayskull

    A powerful form of magic whose source is unknown. When first harnessed, it was able to grant the user superhuman strength and invulnerability, as well as powerful magical abilities. It was soon learnt that the power was too great for any mortal to use directly, so He-Ro burnt out at a young age and died. Later another man, King Grayskull, learnt how to harness the power, but having learnt from the mistakes of He-Ro, he created Castle Grayskull which would serve as a conduit that focuses and refines the power, protecting the user. However, no longer having direct contact with the power means that people who now harness the power only have superhuman strength, invincibility and wisdom. Over time the power has become synonymous with Castle Grayskull and is now known as the Power of Grayskull.

    Characters Done

    Heroic Warriors
    He-Man/Prince Adam
    Man-At-Arms
    Fisto
    Ram Man
    Orko
    Mekaneck
    Battle-Cat/Cringer (part of He-Man bio)
    Lizard Man
    Wolfsfang
    Dragos

    Evil Warriors
    Keldor/Skeletor
    Evil Lyn
    Beast Man
    Mer Man
    Triklops
    Stinkor
    Blade
    Scare Glow
    Fang Man
    Wrath


    Horde
    Hordak
    Shadow Weaver
    Grizzlor
    Mantenna
    Leech
    Modulok
    Imp

    Rebels
    Light Hope
    Skaldor
    Sha-Man

    Snakemen

    Other
    Royal Family (part of Keldor bio)
    Count Marzo
    Zodac
    She-Ra
    Saurod
    He
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    Rise of a Dark King


    Before Hordak:
    In Eternia it is a well known fact that beyond the timeless void known as “Despondos” which magically links all worlds and dimensions, is their sister dimension of Etheria. A place that was said to be a paradise greater in natural beauty than even the magnificent Eternia. This world was ruled over by a kind and wise royal family who treated their subjects with great respect.

    The ruler of Etheria, Horden, who ruled from his home the Crystal Castle and who was known as the Prime of Etheria was loved by all Etherians as a great man and leader. He was aided by his trusted advisor LightHope and his three Generals; Mantel, Leero and Gahnak. In fact it was because of these four that Prime Horden was able to make sure peace had reigned in Etheria for the last hundred years.

    Hordak Arrives:

    Eventually he and his queen, Sudel, bore three children; two sons and one daughter.

    The eldest son, Jaren, was just like his father and as the heir to the throne of Etheria, people knew that he would make a kind and just ruler. This was also the case for their beloved infant daughter, Lumina.

    But it was their middle child, Hordak, that caused the most problems. He was a dark and sullen child. Frequently seen torturing small animals, leading small gangs to bully younger children and generally acting with great dislike and immense disdain towards others.

    Growing Up.

    As Hordak grew up these psycopathic tendencies grew ever stronger and Horden feared that he may actually become a danger to Etheria. But Hordak was still his son and he still loved him. So he decreed that Hordak would remain inside the Crystal Castle, where he would be under constant guard while being tutored on how to be a better person by LightHope.

    But this only strengthed Hordak's resolve to escape his imprisonment and desire to do dark and evil deeds. So each night when the castle was asleep he began to search for a secret way out of the castle.

    Eventually the young Hordak discovered an ancient cave deep below the dungeons of the castle. There he found the remains of an ancient race of evil wizards who once ruled over Etheria. The most precious of these items was a large ancient tome of powerful dark magic.
    Thinking that he could use it to escape Hordak seized the book and ran back to his room. Now each night, instead of seeking a way out he would pour over every page of the book, desperate to learn its dark forbidding secrets. But no matter how hard he tried the power and ability to understand remained just out of his grasp.

    Then the voices came.

    By reading the book he had unknowingly awoken the dark spirits that resided within the pages. They whispered to him, taught him how to use and control the magic, while all the while twisting his already damaged mind into greater reaches of evil and depravity.

    Hostile Takeover

    Years passed as Hordak secretly trained to be a dark wizard. His first spell was to call forth a familiar to help him with his magic, a small, shape-shifting blue creature with razor sharp fangs and terrible claws. He named it Imp. His powers grew exponentially every year. Then came the day he would finally take what he believed was always supposed to be his...the power that came from being Prime.

    This day was to be the day of “rightful succession”. Horden was to step down as Prime and name his eldest son Jaren as the new ruler of Etheria. Hundreds came to attend the ceremony, while thousands waited outside the castle walls ready to cheer their new ruler. Hordak however had not been allowed to attend, but was instead confined to his rom.

    It was half way through the ceremony that Hordak finally began his attack.

    No one had expected him to do anything, let alone that he now commanded vast magic powers. Little could be done to sop him as he strolled through the castle toward the throne room, using his magic to kill anybody that stood in his way.

    The crown was just about to be placed upon Jaren's head when the great doors blew off their hinges and shot across the room, killing several guests. Mantel, Leero and Gahnak quickly jumped to their feet and charged the crazed prince. But he simply froze them to the spot and walked past them unharmed. Even LightHope, who was a great wizard in his own right, was helpless against Hordaks might. Hordak magically stripped LightHope's power and used it to make himself stronger.

    Then he turned to his family.

    A flash of pure hatred glared in his eyes, a cruel smile formed on his lips.

    A blinding flash and Horden, Sudel and Jaren were no more. Only his infant sister was spared his wrath. This was not out of love but out of a deep hate. He had decided that he would raise his sister himself, teach her enough of the dark arts to make her a powerful servant, a decision that would lead her to becoming the vile sorceress known as Shadow Weaver.

    He then turned his attention to the three generals that had served his father faithfully. He could have easily destroyed them but, like his sister, he had plans for them.

    Using the darkest of his magics he reshaped their bodies and twisted their minds;
    -Mantel became a four legged monsrosity with telescopic eyes and was renamed Mantenna.
    -Leero was turned into a green brute with powerful suckers for hands that he could use to drain people's energy, he was named Leech.
    -Finally Gahnak was changed into a huge, brown furred creature and granted immense strength, he was renamed Grizzlor.
    LightHope he cursed to live forever, sealed deep inside the catacombs of the Crystal Castle with a magic mirror so that he could see every evil deed Hordak was unleashing upon the world.

    The New Prime Grows Bored

    Hordak ruled his new kingdom with an iron fist, killing subjects simply for the sheer pleasure of it. His dark magic twisting the once magnificent Crytsal Castle into a dark and terrible place where screams could be heard echoing out at all times of the day and night. This place that had once been a beacon of hope and love in Etheria quickly became known as the Fright Zone.

    Soon Hordak grew bored of Etheria. His lust for power driving him to conquer a new world. The voices that had spoken to him every day for the last twenty years told him that there were indeed other worlds waiting beyond the void...he just had to open a portal.

    Still, even tho he was a powerful magic user, Hordak was not stupid. He knew that he would need and immense army if he wished to take over an entire world.

    So instead of killing his subjects he did something much worse. He began to strip away their minds until there was nothing left of them, they existed solely as living robots ready to do his bidding. Then he magically sealed them in a suit of armor that could never be removed.

    Pleased with his new army, it was Grizzlor that suggested they be named the Dark Horde, as it was felt that this name would inspire fear in his enemies. Hordak liked this idea and even went a step further. He would rename Etheria as “Horde World” and he would be the Horde Prime.

    So with his new army of millions Hordak was ready to conquer a new world.

    He created a portal and stepped through it. With this act Eternia's greatest threat for the last seven thousand years had finally surfaced.

    Hordak had arrived

    The Great Battle Commences

    For several years Hordak readied his army, increasing its ranks by conquering small villages and using their inhabitants as new Horde Troopers. By what he had seen and heard of the Eternian King, King Grayskull...this was not a man to be taking lightly.
    Eventually the day of the battle came. The battlefield was chosen, over a million soldiers to each side. Across the battlefield the two great kings sized each other up. A battle cry rang out across the plains and the two great armies rushed together in an almighty clash.
    As blood soaked carnage ensued the two leaders came face to face for the first and last time.
    Hordak's and Grayskull's battle was intense and fierce, neither side able to gain the upper hand. Hordak tried his most poweful spells but for some reason this Grayskulls sword seemed to be able to deflect or absorb his magic, depending on the spell used.
    On the other hand Grayskull had not felt such powerful magic. Each blow delivered by Hordak was like being hit by a thousand boulders, the King could barely keep hold of his sword.
    They both readied themselves for one last attack, the sheer force of their attacks colliding causing a massive shockwave that sent the Kings as well a thousands of their warriors flying in multiple directions.
    King Grayskull lay dazed and confused. Hordak siezed his opportunity.
    He immediately cast the most powerful spell he knew, a dimensional portal to the timeless void of DESPONDOS. If he could not destroy Grayskull he would banish him.
    Hordak had just released his spell, the magic energy flying toward Grayskull, when the Eternian King came to his sense. Holding his sword in front of him, he let the magic of the blade absorb the energy before sending it back to its source, its power increased 1000 fold.
    Hordak and his minions had been caught in his own spell.

    Escape from the Dark Dimension

    Now the thing about Despondos is that there is no such thing as time there. You could spend an eternity within its dark embrace and yet only a few years would pass in Eternia. Of course a few seconds in Despondos could also be an eternity in another dimension.
    So there was Hordak, trapped in this vile dark place. His generals floating around him screaming in anger and frustration at their ill fortune at being caught in their masters own spell.
    He had no idea how long he had floated in Desponds, but one day Hordak heard a faint call. Some kind of force was drawing him towards it, not a force, a feeling...Home. He quickly recited a spell and found himself upon his home world of Etheria

    2000 Years Later

    2000 years had passed since Hordak and attempted to sieze Eternia. A new royal family had taken over the throne and peace and tranquility had once again came to this once beautiful land.
    Angered, the true King entered the palace.
    Everyone had thought him long since dead, so they were unprepared for his brutal and vicious attack. Servants, guards, visitors and royal family members all fell to his demonic might.
    Only one survived. A teenage girl by the name of Angella. She was quickly spirited away and hidden, so that she could be ready to reclaim the throne when the opportunity arose.
    Now that he was back in charge, Hordak decided to rebuild his kingdom. Once again he sent his generals out to “recruit” members for his Horde Troopers. But people had heard the stories of Hordak, they knew what he was capable of doing.
    So a group of strong warriors and magic users fled into the countryside, deep within a forest. Lead by two students of LightHope (who had managed to teach them using astral projection from his prision deep below the crystal castle), Sha-Man and Skaldor, the rebellions goal was to fight back against the dark Hordes of Hordak and restore Angella to the throne.

    Return to Eternia

    Hordak grew weary of Etheria. He longed to finish that what he had started all those years ago. He would return to Eternia and conquer it once and for all.
    Telling his Generals to stay in Etheria to keep an eye on his throne, Hordak once more opened the portal and stepped through. He found himself inside a temple, a blue skinned man staring at him in disbelief. Unbeknownst to Hordak he had arrived in Anwat Gar.
    Not having any warriors to fight with him he did something just as, if not worse. He quickly cast a spell that would turn brother against brother, friend against friend. The people of Anwat Gar would turn themselves apart and it would be written as nothing more than a bloody civil war, tragic...but not unheard of.

    Hordak Takes an Apprentice

    For several years Hordak secretly grew in power, the temple in Anwat Gar being his base of operations. He learned that with King Grayskulls death his crown had moved to another branch of his family tree.
    Hordak, not wanting to repeat his mistakes...waited and plotted.
    Disguising himself as an old man named Horace, Hordak went to the palace and introduced himself as an ambassador for the dimension of Etheria. He was welcomed with open arms and giving a place to live while he was in Eternia.
    While there he noticed something about the oldest son of the royal family, a young boy with slightly blue skin named Keldor. He saw a hint of darkness within the boys heart and a natural affinity for magic, much like himself.
    Finally Hordak revealed his true self to Keldor and he began training as his apprentice. The royal family had no idea what Horace was teaching their son, but it was keeping him out of trouble...then one day the pair just vanished into the night.

    Rise of a New Evil

    Many years had passed and prince Randor, brother of Keldor had been crowned king. Randor missed his older brother and wished each day that he would return.
    And so Keldor returned.
    Leading a vast army and empowered by the dark magic taught to him by Hordak, Keldor stormed the castle. The victory was very soon almost his. But when it came to killing his own brother he just couldn't. This turned the tide of the war and the royal guards quickly overpowered the villains, driving them back.
    Hordak was furious at Keldor's weakness. As a punishment he stripped away the flesh from his face right down to the bone, keeping the prince alive with magic. Then he had Keldor locked up in a cell.
    Using his magic, Keldor commanded a feral creature named Beast Man to help him to escape.Then taking the name Skeletor he swore revenge on the two that had caused him the loss of his face...Hordak and Randor.

    Hordak was taken by surprise by his talented student. Somehow Skeletor had found an ancient incantation dealing with dimensions. It would send a person back to their place of birth and hold them there.

    Back to Etheria

    And so Hordak found himself in Etheria once more, trapped there by magic and unable to conquer other dimensions. He swore an oath to find his way back one day and kill everyone in that miserable dimension.

    But for now his attention had been caught by the rebellion which had grown in number and had become a serious threat...they would have to be destroyed

    In the Future

    With the rebellion still going strong, Hordak eventually finds a way around his imprisonment. A spell that would merge the two dimensions as one. Nothing could stop him this time....????
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    Keldor and the Royal Family



    Youth in Anwat Gar

    There was a time when the Gars were a very powerful Eternian race. They looked much like the humans of Eternia, except for their skin being blue. The Gars are a race with a natural affinity for magic, having produced many of Eternia’s most powerful mages. The land of the Gars was quite far from Eternos and although the Royal family of Eternos had a friendly relationship with the Gar Royal family, the people had little contact with each other.

    The King of the Gars, King Jovan, took a human girl named Acacia as his bride. Together they had a boy named Keldor. Keldor’s skin had a slightly bluish tint, causing him to look distinct when compared to other Gar or Human boys. They lived a fairly happy life, until war broke out when Keldor was 4. No one was sure who had started the war, or what was to gain, but it seemed as if the people were gripped by a terrible bloodlust, causing war to erupt quickly and explosively. It seemed as if the Gars were fighting each other for no reason, families torn apart in the carnage.

    King Jovan was slaughtered by his very own guards. Knowing that the Gar Empire was lost, Queen Acacia took Keldor and rode off in the night, looking for a place to take refuge. After many months of travel, Queen Acacia arrived in Eternos and was welcomed by the Royal Family. Soon she and King Miro fell in love and were married. Two years thereafter, Prince Randor was born.

    Life in the Royal Palace

    Keldor was a sullen boy, unhappy that he had to leave his people. He never felt comfortable surrounded by pink skinned humans, even though Miro always accepted him as his own son. However, what bothered Miro most was that his baby brother, Prince Randor, was to someday become king of Eternia. Keldor felt cheated by not being king, because when he was born he was also in line to be king. Keldor didn’t think it was fair that Randor would be king, simply because his father was Miro. He also felt a large amount of resentment against the Eternian nobility, because he believed that they didn’t do enough to help stop the uprising in the Gar territories. In his eyes, the Eternian nobility left the Gars to die.

    Keldor was not a very good student. His teachers felt that he was remarkably brilliant, but he had no interest in his classes. Keldor frequently got into fights with the other students, in one instance almost killing another child before the teachers intervened. Because of this, Keldor was eventually removed from regular school and given private tutors, his parents hoping that he would eventually outgrow his rebellious youth.

    However, Keldor wasn’t all bad. While he was jealous of the fact that Prince Randor would someday be king, he still cared for him. He didn’t feel that Randor was to blame for his never being king, he felt that it was an unfair system set up by a flawed monarchy. In a strange way, Keldor was actually rather protective of Randor, looking out for him and trying to make sure that he never got hurt.

    Enter Hordak

    When Keldor was 12, a man named Horace arrived at the Royal Court. He claimed to be a diplomat from another planet called Etheria. He said that the Etherian Royal Family had sent him to Eternia to create relations between the two worlds, but sadly due to some difficulties with the magic portal, he would be stranded in Eternia for a decade at the very least. King Miro took him in, quickly befriending him and greatly enjoying his tales of far away lands.

    Horace noticed Keldor skulking around the Royal Palace and felt that he had a great magical potential. Horace felt that Keldor’s natural talents coupled with his unhappiness about his station in life made him an ideal apprentice. Finding an opportunity to speak to Keldor alone, Horace told Keldor that he knew of the boy’s great potential and that he would be able to help him attain it. Furthermore, in time, if he trained well, he would eventually be able to take his rightful place as king of Eternia. Keldor was warned to never speak of the others about Horace’s training, Furthermore, Keldor was told to stop acting with such insolence, as he would not be given the freedom he needed to train if he was constantly getting into trouble.

    Over the next few years, Keldor trained diligently with Horace, quickly becoming a powerful mage. These years were a happy time for the royal family. Keldor had started acting properly and the kingdom was in a time of peace and prosperity. People noticed that Keldor’s skin was getting bluer over time, however they just assumed it was a quirk of his Gar physiology. In truth, his skin was getting bluer because of his drawing strength from his magical Gar potential.

    On Keldor’s 19th birthday, Horace revealed his true identity to Keldor. Horace was in fact Hordak, a warlord from Eternia’s distant past. Hordak told Keldor that it was time to leave the royal palace and raise an army that would be able to topple the Eternian nobility. Keldor felt a little uncomfortable with this, but he acquiesced to Hordak’s wishes.

    What happened over the next few years is shrouded in mystery. What is known is that after Keldor’s disappearance from the palace, he spent many years training in the mystic arts, becoming a powerful sorceror. During this time he met a number of people who would later become his minions. These included a beautiful woman named Evil Lyn that he took as a lover, later he met Beast Man, a creature that people had thought was a myth, and Merman, a man who became king of the Mer-People under mysterious circumstances, as well as many other powerful warriors.

    The Great Wars Begin

    During Keldor’s absence, Prince Randor missed his older brother, but he and his family had to get on with their lives. Randor proved to be an excellent student and warrior, proving that despite his youth he was a man of great wisdom. He was mentored by a young warrior and close friend named Duncan, who would eventually be given the status of “Man-At-Arms”. When Prince Randor was 21, he wed Marlena and while the day was beautiful, he was saddened that his older brother couldn’t be there to celebrate it with him.

    When Prince Randor was 25 years old, his older brother returned to the royal palace, but sadly it wasn’t a happy return. Keldor was leading a legion of troops, an army created from peoples of different lands. Over the next three years, Eternia was ravaged by war, thousands of people dying. During the next three years, King Miro and Queen Acacia died. Miro’s death was at the hands of the creature known as the Beast-Man and Acacia’s death happened as the result of an infection caused by injuries incurred during a battle.

    During the final battle of the Great War, Keldor and Randor met face to face. They battled long and hard, but in the end Keldor overpowered Randor and knocked him to the ground. Walking towards Randor, Keldor lifted his sword above his head, readying a killing blow. But in the end, his hands shaking, Keldor was unable to kill his baby brother. Lowering the sword he quickly left the chamber.

    Randor, having survived his duel with Keldor rallied the troops. With a renewed vigor they fought back the evil warriors and won the battle for Eternos. Driving back Keldor’s forces, Randor was able to convince the Sorceress to use her magic to erect a magical barrier, separating the light and dark hemispheres.

    Birth of Skeletor

    When Hordak received news of what had happened, he was enraged. As a punishment, he used his magic to strip Keldor’s face of it’s flesh and eyes. Wanting Keldor to suffer, he also cast a second spell, which kept Keldor alive so as to suffer for his act of mercy. Hordak then ordered the guards to take Keldor to a cell, where he would be left to be eaten alive by vermin.

    The pain and horror of having his face torn off crushed what was left of Keldor’s psyche. His mind shattered, Keldor lost all goodness and compassion that had once been in him. Furthermore, he grew to hate Randor, feeling that he was to blame for the loss of Keldor’s face. Using his magic to summon Beast-Man, he ordered the creature to kill his guards and free him.

    Keldor stumbled out of his cell, still in great pain and quickly moved to his old quarters, donning a dark blue hood. Tearing through his bookshelf, Keldor found an old tomb of spells that he had come across years earlier Inside there was a spell that in theory could send a person back to their place of birth, forever being unable to return. Sneaking up on Hordak, he used the ancient incantation and sent Hordak back to Etheria, unable to return to Eternia.

    Looking in a mirror, Keldor was horrified by his visage. From this day forward, he would no longer be Keldor, he would now be Skeletor.

    It is uncertain what Skeletor did during the next few years, prior to his destruction of the great barrier. It is known that he became a much stronger sorceror during this time and was able to recruit more warriors. There are a number of rumors as well. It is rumored that he took on a young protégé, who may or may not be his son. Naturally other rumors arose about his siring other children that he had little interest in, but nothing has ever been substantiated.
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    This is some serious stuff! I am printing this out, and taking it home to study in detail and will be back with my comments!

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    Cool, look forward to reading your thoughts.

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    He-man and Adam

    Birth and Childhood

    Nearly two years after the end of the Great War, King Randor and Queen Marlena gave birth to a baby boy named Adam. People throughout the land said that the day was particularly beautiful, with the sun out and the birds singing. One bird in particular stood out, a wondrously large orange bird that circled over the palace.

    Growing up in the palace, Adam was close friends with Teela, a little girl who was a year older than Adam. Throughout their childhood they could be seen playing in the fields and lakes, almost inseparable. Adam was also very close to the standing Man-At-Arms, seeing Duncan as an uncle. During these years Adam would sometimes ask his father if he had any real uncles, but his father would simply look away with a pained look on his face.

    One curious occurrence happened on Adam’s 6th birthday. His parents bought him a new vest and pants in a style that they knew he would love. But when he opened the gift, he saw the clothes and started crying. Apparently he despised the color pink and would never consider wearing anything made in that color. From that day forward a royal decree was made to never give Adam clothing in pink.

    Adolescence

    As Adam and Teela neared adolescence, they began to grow apart. Adam was a lazy child by nature, hedonistic and always looking for pleasure. Teela on the other hand was a very serious and mature young girl, spending much of her time studying and training. As they got older, their friendship eventually turned into something more akin to a student-teacher relationship. Teela was told to ensure that Adam kept up in his sword training; so much of their time spent together involved her nagging him to practice. This led to a bit of a straining in their relationship, but in the end things never got worse than some good natured teasing.

    Adam’s laziness was a constant disappointment to his parents. His mother and father loved him very much, but it pained them to see him waste his abilities. He was very smart and even cunning, also showing an innate talent for swordsmanship, but he wasted his skills, never taking the time to fully develop them.

    During this time he was given a young Eternian tiger. The tiger was meant to be a guard-tiger, but the little thing was very jittery. He’d jump at every little noise, sometimes even being startled by a blade of grass moving near to him. As a consequence Adam chose to name him Cringer. Although Cringer wasn’t of much use as a guard tiger, Adam loved him very much and the two were inseparable. Many a day were spent romping in the fields, playing hide and seek, with Cringer doing much of the hiding.

    The Coming of He-Man

    When Adam was 17 he woke up to a day much like any other. He nudged Cringer who was lying at the foot of his bed, telling him that it was time to get up for breakfast.

    Walking through the halls of the Royal Palace he saw that people were rushing around, worried and tense. Finding his father he asked what was happening but was quickly brushed to the side without getting an answer. Seeing Duncan at the other end of the room he ran towards him and asked what was happening. Duncan told Adam that the barrier separating the Dark and Light Hemispheres had been shattered recently and that an army of evil warrior had come through, attacking villages near to the border between the hemispheres. The armies had already razed three villages and the Royal Guard was scrambling to get a team together to confront the attackers.

    Seeing that Teela was going with a contingent of the guards, Adam quickly found a sword and mounted a horse. Duncan flagged him down and said that he wouldn’t be part of the defensive force because Adam wasn’t skilled enough to be a warrior. Duncan then told Adam to get off the horse because they needed every fast horse they could get.

    Feeling dejected and down, Adam and Cringer skulked off into the palace garden. When sitting in the garden, a glorious orange bird landed near to him. Suddenly he heard a beautiful woman’s voice in his head telling him to follow the bird. At first Adam was shocked, thinking that he was having a psychotic episode, but then he felt a calming aura come over him, the voice telling him that everything was okay. The voice told him to follow the bird, which was called Zoar, because only then would he be able to help the troops and fulfill his destiny.

    Adam and Cringer followed the bird, through the fields and past the forest. Then in the distance he saw a sight he had never seen before. An ancient, greenish-grey castle, that was shaped like a skull. Walking towards the castle, he saw the jaw-shaped drawbridge open, as if it was inviting him in. With a sense of foreboding, Adam walked towards the opening. Looking behind him, he saw Cringer was cowering in fear. With a nervous laugh, he called Cringer to him and they together walked into the castle.

    Once inside, they saw a beautiful woman who introduced herself as the Sorceress. She then told them about ancient heroes named He-Ro and Grayskull, who had wondrous powers and a legacy that he would continue. She then handed him a sword, telling him that this sword was forged by Grayskull himself, created to be a conduit for a great mystical power. She instructed him to hold the sword over his head and shout, “by the power of Grayskull, I have the power!”

    Doing so, He-Man was surrounded by bolts of lighting and smoke. When the air cleared, where Adam stood was no He-Man and where Cringer stood was Battle Cat.

    He-Man then mounted Battle Cat and rode off to battle. The legend begins...


    He-Man Personality and Powers

    He-Man’s got incredible strength and invincibly, currently matched by no one in the land. He-Man’s greatest weakness is that he is too likely to resort to brawn over brains, sometimes overestimating his abilities and rushing into action a little too quickly. Unlike some of the other heroes, He-Man always acts according to the highest moral standards. He is also completely against killing, feeling that there is always another option, which will at times cause him to come to odds amongst the other heroes, troops and even the royal family.

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    Excellent!!

    These are sure interesting and wonderful storys!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    Cool, look forward to reading your thoughts.

    Oh and this is also a collaborative project so we are always open to new members to come along and write biographies for characters for us
    I'm working on a Tri-Klops for you...should have it done by tomorrow. It's kinda long though, would you prefer I PM it to you so you can edit it, or just post it directly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawggie View Post
    I'm working on a Tri-Klops for you...should have it done by tomorrow. It's kinda long though, would you prefer I PM it to you so you can edit it, or just post it directly?
    We'd like it pm'ed so we can read it first. Thanks a lot. We're really happy to have someone interested in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Latveria View Post
    We'd like it pm'ed so we can read it first. Thanks a lot. We're really happy to have someone interested in it
    OK Will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawggie View Post
    I'm working on a Tri-Klops for you...should have it done by tomorrow.
    Looking forward to see how you handle Trike without the use of tech...I for one was stumped on that character
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    What we strive to do is take a concept that is inherently unrealistic and treat it as realistically as possible.

    Ummm ... why?

    If its intended to be fantasy, why bother with "realism"?


    When looking at characters and concepts like Skeletor, He-Man, Castle Grayskull and Beast Man, we suspend belief enough to accept their existence, but when trying to figure out what they do, we base it on how people would realistically react under a set of given circumstances.

    For instance, in a world where there are laser guns, why would anyone ever decide to use a sword?
    What if your laser gun breaks? Or runs out of juice during a fight?

    Why did soldiers of yore carry bayonets? They needed a backup weapon.


    Outside of a person like He-Man, who has special skills and a special sword, no one would use these melee weapons.

    I repeat: what do you do when your gun breaks down?


    So realistically, warriors wouldn’t use both of these weapon types (as is the case in our world, after all, when’s the last time we saw a marine charge into battle with an axe?)

    Did not soldiers carry bayonets?


    These ground rules, which were decided very early into the project, were things that we both agreed either worked or did not work in our new vision of MOTU. Firstly, and most importantly, there would be absolutely no technology in Eternia. It would be pure sword and sorcery. Now some people may hear this and say that’s “it’s nothing but Conan then”, but we must disagree with this.

    Conan, LOTR and 300 all have similar worlds of magic and weaponry, yet they’re completely different movies and concepts.

    300 didn't have magic.

    The film was based on an actual event: The Battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C.


    In our view, what sets MOTU apart from other words of fantasy isn’t just the technology; it is the characters, places and concepts that compose its mythology. As a consequence of removing technology from MOTU, certain characters will not exist at all in our version of the story, such as Roboto (although Trapjaw will still be involved).

    Another obvious consequence of this is that all the vehicles will be gone and Hordak will no longer be a transformer wannabe, he’ll be pure magic (which lets face it is just better anyway).

    However, some characters will be almost completely changed, such as Man-E-Faces. Mekaneck may also make an early appearance, but the circumstances of his participation we’ll keep to ourselves for now.

    Neither of us like plant based characters. Consequently, Mossman and Evil Seed will not exist as characters; however they will exist as myths. For instance, when a crop is doing well, one would say that “Mossman has been here” and when a crop dies quickly, they would say, “Evil Seed has cursed this crop”.

    There’re a number of characters we won’t be using. From the MOTU end of things, there is the aforementioned Roboto, but Rio Blast, Blast Attack, Ninjor, Sy-Klone and Gwildor. On the POP end of things, pretty much everyone has been ruled out. For the purposes of the rebellion, we’re looking at a tentative line-up of Castaspella, Queen Angela, Sweet Bee (as an andreenid character), Sea Hawk (needs some serious redesigning), Bow (also requires a lot of redesigning) and Frosta.

    Zodac and the Cosmic Enforcers will not exist. They go totally against our “no tech” policy. However, if someone came up with a pure sword and sorcery story and design for Zodac, we’d be happy to use it.

    I pity your impoverished imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Ummm ... why?

    If its intended to be fantasy, why bother with "realism"?
    Even fantasy needs some amount of realism in it...otherwise it would just be a jumbled mess.

    Our realism comes from the way people act and react to situations. For example it occured to us that the bad guys losing simply because they were bad guys (and therefor naturally seen as stupid and inept) was just a ridiculous idea. Just because they are evil that should not make them stupid.

    What if your laser gun breaks? Or runs out of juice during a fight?

    Why did soldiers of yore carry bayonets? They needed a backup weapon.
    having bayonets on the end of your rifle is slightly different then running into battle with a huge sword.


    300 didn't have magic.

    The film was based on an actual event: The Battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C.
    True but it was still a heavily stylised film with creatures and events that could be seen as fantastic or magical


    I pity your impoverished imagination.
    I would not say it was impoverished. We are simply doing something different with the franchise. Me and Darth chose to leave technology out of it because we are far more interested in the sword and sorcery aspect of the show...the tech was the biggest weak point in the MOTU universe in our opinion so when we decided to do this project that was the first thing we got rid of.

    This actually means we have to do a lot more character planning as we have to think of ways characters who are tech based can exist in our no tech world and still be recognisable.
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    To further Wolfs' point, we feel that realism adds depth. In the end, this is just our vision of what it should be and wish it were. As a consequence, we've made it tailored to our preferences and interests.

    When it comes to the bayonet stuff, it's not a good analogy. Bayonets are not used as a primary weapon, whereas in MOTU the swords are. The swords are also an idiotic secondary weapon because of how heavy and bulky they are, so realistically the MOTU characters would likely use either bayonets or small tactical knives *like the armed forces* as a back-up to their lasers. In any case, your point is still obviously off, simply because we don't see armed forces using these large blades and melee weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
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    300 didn't have magic.

    The film was based on an actual event: The Battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C.
    True but it was still a heavily stylised film with creatures and events that could be seen as fantastic or magical

    What kind of creatures are we talking about?

    While I agree that the cinematography was heavily stylized, I don't recall seeing magical creatures in 300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    What kind of creatures are we talking about?

    While I agree that the cinematography was heavily stylized, I don't recall seeing magical creatures in 300.
    Off the top of my head, I can think of the immortals *yes there was a group by that name, but these guys weren't normal*, the giant rhino and that super big immortal, giant creature thing.

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    not magical in the way of spells...but bigger than life and over stylised in their appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Latveria View Post
    Off the top of my head, I can think of the immortals *yes there was a group by that name, but these guys weren't normal*

    They were a real unit.

    Xerxes gave them that name because every time one of them fell, another one would take their place -- hence, the appearance of "immortality."


    Wikipedia -- Persian Immortals

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    When I started reading this there were a number of things that I didn't like. The main thing being that there isn't any tech not because it's a major factor of making MOTU unique but because of a lot of characters depended on it for their origins.

    As I read though the character bios, I really liked the new direction that you took the story and how you conpensated for not having technology. In many stories there is tech so advanced that it functions as magic, but here that there is magic so advanced that it substitutes for tech where there needs to be (such as triklops).

    Onto the storyline, I really really liked what you did with skeletor making him a tragic hero of sorts. At first I was taken aback by the horde not having tech, but with your redefinition of the horde with hordak as the main evil in the series (with hints of something bigger behind him such as the magic book he found and he being able to leave despondos). The overall world history combining elements of MYP with original elements is something I really liked. The characters too were really expanded upon and given real life (with one or two big exceptions I will talk about at the end).

    First, there is adam. Now I'm fine with his story of him being a lazy kid and he-man's general attitude as well. I also chuckled at Teela being a tsundere. But one thing about the original battle, what is adams big motivation for adam suddenly caring about going into battle. Judging from your description he would be content to let the soldiers do their job rather than do it himself. It seems that there should have been a deciding factor that made him go out there.

    Again I'm fine with most of the characters generally. Everything I am not talking about here I really really liked. I want to stress that I really enjoyed the overall story. However I have to say about Orko, he was the only character from classic that was kept completely the same in MYP for good reason. If there is any one character that should be comedy relief should be Orko. Making him an angry character is something I can't really imagine for a creature as cute as Orko.

    I really loved what you "did" with mekaneck and Loo-kee (LOL). That was great. But couldn't you have killed stinkor too? Or at least kept him with his original name. Now matter how well it fits his abilities, I just can't take the name stinkor seriously.

    Here is my biggest problem. I can see that you really really really REALLY didn't want to include she-ra in this. Every word of her description read to me 'I hate this character. I hate this character.' It's not going to make you happy to add her and not going to make the fans who like her happy; in my honest opinion the story you have worked out works great without she-ra. And the addition seems like a tact on mean spirited joke that should just be dropped.

    One last complaint is about He. First of all I can tell he looks exactly like Majin Buu and he seems out of place. His origin was lifted an episode of Justice League (which ironically did involve snakemen). And he just doesn't seem to fit in the MOTU world. He seems like more of a Dragonball Z character; he seems like he would fight Goku rather than He-man.

    Once again I'm sorry that this post is mostly complaint, but it hard for me to come up with ways for me to say I really really love this story. When I first read the description I had doubts as whether it could be pulled off, but the changes you made fit very well to this new rendition to the MOTU world. And it sounds like an epic story with a great deal of potential. So overall I have to say it looks great and I would honestly watch a TV show of this. But just drop she-ra please.


    EDIT: Having seen the SHe-ra fic in the topic now, i`m much less annoyed, but I don`t think Hordak should be killed so soon. I`d still rather she-ra not be in it at all, since the universe works so well on its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminak View Post
    When I started reading this there were a number of things that I didn't like. The main thing being that there isn't any tech not because it's a major factor of making MOTU unique but because of a lot of characters depended on it for their origins.

    As I read though the character bios, I really liked the new direction that you took the story and how you conpensated for not having technology. In many stories there is tech so advanced that it functions as magic, but here that there is magic so advanced that it substitutes for tech where there needs to be (such as triklops).

    Onto the storyline, I really really liked what you did with skeletor making him a tragic hero of sorts. At first I was taken aback by the horde not having tech, but with your redefinition of the horde with hordak as the main evil in the series (with hints of something bigger behind him such as the magic book he found and he being able to leave despondos). The overall world history combining elements of MYP with original elements is something I really liked. The characters too were really expanded upon and given real life (with one or two big exceptions I will talk about at the end).

    First, there is adam. Now I'm fine with his story of him being a lazy kid and he-man's general attitude as well. I also chuckled at Teela being a tsundere. But one thing about the original battle, what is adams big motivation for adam suddenly caring about going into battle. Judging from your description he would be content to let the soldiers do their job rather than do it himself. It seems that there should have been a deciding factor that made him go out there.

    Again I'm fine with most of the characters generally. Everything I am not talking about here I really really liked. I want to stress that I really enjoyed the overall story. However I have to say about Orko, he was the only character from classic that was kept completely the same in MYP for good reason. If there is any one character that should be comedy relief should be Orko. Making him an angry character is something I can't really imagine for a creature as cute as Orko.

    I really loved what you "did" with mekaneck and Loo-kee (LOL). That was great. But couldn't you have killed stinkor too? Or at least kept him with his original name. Now matter how well it fits his abilities, I just can't take the name stinkor seriously.

    Here is my biggest problem. I can see that you really really really REALLY didn't want to include she-ra in this. Every word of her description read to me 'I hate this character. I hate this character.' It's not going to make you happy to add her and not going to make the fans who like her happy; in my honest opinion the story you have worked out works great without she-ra. And the addition seems like a tact on mean spirited joke that should just be dropped.

    One last complaint is about He. First of all I can tell he looks exactly like Majin Buu and he seems out of place. His origin was lifted an episode of Justice League (which ironically did involve snakemen). And he just doesn't seem to fit in the MOTU world. He seems like more of a Dragonball Z character; he seems like he would fight Goku rather than He-man.

    Once again I'm sorry that this post is mostly complaint, but it hard for me to come up with ways for me to say I really really love this story. When I first read the description I had doubts as whether it could be pulled off, but the changes you made fit very well to this new rendition to the MOTU world. And it sounds like an epic story with a great deal of potential. So overall I have to say it looks great and I would honestly watch a TV show of this. But just drop she-ra please.


    EDIT: Having seen the SHe-ra fic in the topic now, i`m much less annoyed, but I don`t think Hordak should be killed so soon. I`d still rather she-ra not be in it at all, since the universe works so well on its own.
    We killed Hordak?!?! lol, I am pretty sure it's a typo but it gave me a good laugh

    I am glad you liked it overall. As for your specific character comments:

    Skeletor -- I have to admit that I like the guy. I see a lot of potential in him, particularly his Keldor days, so a lot of the stuff involves Keldor in some way.

    She-Ra -- You hit it on the head. We hate her with a passion. We brought her in in the most respectable way possible for us (you can't even imagine what we had considered doing to her... if you think this was bad, the other stuff would've given you a heart attack, haha). In the end, we wanted to make a compromise with her, which is how we came up with the short story. It gave her the power, respect and dignity that the POP fans love and it gave us the dead She-Ra that we love. It also served the very important purpose of bringing Hordak back to Eternia. So in the end, you got your wish and She-Ra has been dropped

    Adam -- Good question. I honestly am not so sure why he wanted to get involved. Most of that part of the story was lifted from the first MYP story arc, which in itself was nearly identical to the Filmation series bible. My guess is that his whole life he figured that the fighting was done with, so why waste time bothering with it? When war started again and he was faced with the ugliness of it, it probably scared the hell out of him, causing him to change his priorities somewhat. Adam is lazy by nature, but he's not necessarily stupid.

    Orko -- Well... We don't do comedic relief. As a matter of fact, I am outright against characters that exist for that purpose. I have no problem with comedy and in fact love it, but for this sort of thing I prefer situational comedy, not irritating characters. He actually nearly got a huge changed, based entirely on the bio idea written by Djurdevic (probably spelled that wrong).

    As for Loo-Kee and Mekaneck... Mek was my favorite bio so far, lol. I just love how he came out.

    When it comes to He, Wolf will have to answer that. I didn't have much to do with his creation so best to let Wolf talk about his psychotic little love child

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    Morph, I wanted to applaud your great addition to the story. Very nice work. Hope to see more.

    Just one think I caught was the typo of the royal archeologist's name. If you are speaking of the same person we're thinking of, it's Melaktha, you just forgot the 'h'. Unless you have a totally different person in mind?
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    True HE does have a strong DBZ influence...I have said so many times. As for his origin...well it may seem similar to an episode of Justice League, but to be honest I barely watched it as I hate Bruce Timm's art style as well as the Justice League in general and as a matter of fact I haven't even seen the episode you mention so it is just a case of coincidence

    As you say He does not fit into traditional MOTU, but this is the NEW VISION, which is not traditional so He does fit within it. Besides call it a compromise / fair deal. I agreed to add She-Ra even tho, as you rightfully point out, that neither me and darth like her (we hate her)...so because I gave the fans what they want...I'm keeping He within it.

    Oh yeah and while He might have started similar to DBZ's Majin (Kid) Buu I like to think that the revisions have made him his own character. As for He being a child...well that was simply because I wanted to make him different, I felt that not everybody of great importance in the MOTU: NV universe needed to be some hugely muscular guy.
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