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  • Yes! He should punch out mountains and move planets.

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  • In the Middle! Strong as hell, but not impossibly strong.

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  • No! He should have normal strength for a man of his size.

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    He should be strong--maybe like how Superman is portrayed in modern day (or at least the 90s--the new Superman seems weaker).
    But, part of me would like to see him do something stupid strong once in a while too (I guess if he gets angry,etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I'd rather keep on having him prove that he's The Most Powerful Man in the universe, rather than it be the given like Filmation did.
    I like this. the way I justified the filmation stuff, is his power is limited only by his belief. I'm not saying we go with that 100% but it explains why he can punch through steel but also not punch a hole in a person. his will won't allow him to punch that hard against a living being. but i like him being challenged. Evil is over confident, good tends to 2nd guess itself a lot, so though he-man is the most powerful man in the universe, because he won't be a dictator (see the star seed) its hard to see himself being more powerful than the forces of evil, because evil puts on a such a destructive display of power. not saying I want he-man to have no confidence or even be conflicted by his self esteem too much, but the lengths that evil will go through the ferocity of the villains should shake him at times. Batman is one of the top 4 martial artists in the DCU, he is one of the top 3 smartest men in the DCU, but Joker challenges him, why because joker's mind and his level of evil disrupts what batman is about. i think the same thing should apply with he-man vs others in a way.
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    I'm cool with He-Man having superhuman strength such as ripping a tank apart with his bare hands. But it should remain consistent and he should have limitations which includes his endurance.

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    Definitely in the middle. The issue with giving him too much strength or invincibility is like Superman, you take suspense out of adventures because there's no real fear of death. Yes, deep down all really good heroes have to have real sense of their own mortality, otherwise then the actions they undertake are not truly heroic. They are not death defying, they are not self sacrificing, the greatest odd to overcome and biggest price to pay i.e. their own life aren't on the table, and thus there is no real drama. Life and Death struggles against foes which could destroy him if he doesn't take his battles with the utmost seriousness.

    Yes, He-Man should be strong, definitely one of the strongest guys around. But I think there should be guys stronger than him in terms of physical strength. Ram Man for example. I always pictured him as the real Juggernaut type bruiser of the Masters. Stronger than He-man yes, able to soak up more damage yes, but that doesn't make him the "most powerful".

    There's far more to He-man being the "most powerful man in the universe" than just his strength or his toughness. It's his unique combination of Strength, Intelligence, Durability, Speed, Agility, and Wisdom that sets him apart. And he should have to pull from all those facets to defeat his enemies not just out power them.

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    i want to see the power of grayskull. superhuman but still vunerable. like spiderman

    spidey is crazystrong but you still can see him as acessible and it never overshadows the character.

    actually they could focus on it a bit more but that is the direction.

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    Of course He-man should be ridiculously strong. That's the whole point of this concept. I don't need a Tarzan.

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    Ummmm, Yes! He should punch out mountains and move planets!!!

    We already have a "Strong as hell, but not impossibly strong" character, his name is Fisto, or Clamp Champ, or Ram-Man, etc. Let's not make He-Man 'watered-down' to "sidekick" status...

    Also, He-Man's invulnerability and strength has been addressed already many times, remember that he is also Prince Adam, and as such, he is quite vulnerable. So he does not have all the hangups that Hulk/Banner or Supes/Kent have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewkee View Post
    Of course He-man should be ridiculously strong. That's the whole point of this concept. I don't need a Tarzan.
    This WAS the concept...here He-Man is extremely strong. He can rip a dungeon door off of it's hinges. That WAS considered "super strength" back in the day.



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    Well, I voted "Other" because my mind is playing a semantics game.

    I didn't want to vote for the mountain punching, planet mover.

    I also didn't want to go to the other extreme and make him normal strength for his size (even if that is hugely musclebound).

    So I looked at "In the middle," but it had the caveat "but not impossibly strong." I didn't like that caveat.

    Many have posted about his depiction in 200x/MYP, and that is my ideal. To me, (and clearly to others) it seemed as though his access to super-strength was initially limited, but that didn't mean he couldn't access a deeper level and become stronger - which tended to make those posters vote for middle. However, in my head, He-Man could still access enough power to become "impossibly" strong. It was still a possibility to access those levels imo.

    So yeah, my "Other" vote is "Super-strong with the ability to become impossibly strong."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    This WAS the concept...here He-Man is extremely strong. He can rip a dungeon door off of it's hinges. That WAS considered "super strength" back in the day.

    Filmation took the original concept to a ludicrous level.

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    No, what's ludicrous is that it isn't He-Man who is pushing the moon. It's actually the Wind Raider that is providing a ludricous amount of thrust in order to remain stationary to allow He-Man to move the moon.

    I like He-Man being "the most powerful man in the universe!" But He-Man's power is a political power. He changes worlds through social and economic reforms. That's his true power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    This WAS the concept...here He-Man is extremely strong. He can rip a dungeon door off of it's hinges. That WAS considered "super strength" back in the day.

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    Filmation took the original concept to a ludicrous level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel View Post
    No, what's ludicrous is that it isn't He-Man isn't pushing the moon. It's actually the Wind Raider that is providing a ludricous amount of thrust in order to remain stationary to allow He-Man to move the moon.

    I like He-Man being "the most powerful man in the universe!" But He-Man power is a political power. He changes worlds through social and economic reforms. That's his true power.

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    Taking a page from Poweron's book I voted other. I think He-Man should be a Superman level Powerhouse A class 100+ strength level, however moving a planet ,a moon, or picking up an ENTIRE mountain is a bit much. Superman can get away with that because he can fly and is invulnerable. That is where a major difference is. He-Man has Superman level strength, but as far as durability goes. He is durable enough to go toe to toe with another character with Superman level strength, but he cant just stand still while his opponents attack him with swords (Even though according to the current DC Comic's He-Man's skin is enchanted and can not be cut quite as easily as a normal man). He is far more resistant to damage from magical energy blasts, but he can't just stand there with his hands on his hips while Skeletor (or any other enemy using magic) blasts away at him. He definitely would not be able to risk letting an enemy shoot him with a laser gun (or even bullets for that matter, even though bullets are not used on used on Eternia). He-Man should be strong enough to dent a mountain with a punch, but not cause said mountain to crumble to dust with one punch. As for He-Man's enemies I see that non magic wielding ones as being incredibly strong too (anywhere from a class 60 to 100) with Faker arguably being as strong as He-Man. He-Man's enemies however are also NOT invulnerable. This enables non super powered characters such as Man-At-Arms, Teela, King Randor, and Decker to have a chance against them. The key to a believable He-Man lies not so much in making him weaker, but in letting it be known that he is not invulnerable.
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    I pick in the middle, this way everyone gets a chance to be "The most powerful man/woman/other in the universe". The good guys, and He-Man, will have a reason to defend Castle Grayskull from those who'd want that power for evil, and the bad guys, Skeletor, will have a reason to conquer it. And then you have any third party pc's.

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    Ripping a metal door open is not strong enough for me, although I do admit that that whole moving planets shenanegan does indeed go a little too far. They should stop at the size of a dragon or maybe even Castle Grayskull.

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    Middle strong. He might be the most powerful MAN in the universe, but not the most powerful creature. And I like to think only Sssqueeze would be physically strong enough to hold He-Man in his grip for longer than few seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimbasGuard View Post
    Taking a page from Poweron's book I voted other. I think He-Man should be a Superman level Powerhouse A class 100+ strength level, however moving a planet ,a moon, or picking up an ENTIRE is a bit much. Superman can get away with that because he can fly and is invulnerable. That is where a major difference is. He-Man has Superman level strength, but as far as durability goes. He is durable enough to go toe to toe with another character with Superman level strength, but he cant just stand still while his opponents attack him with swords (Even though according to the current DC Comic's He-Man's skin is enchanted and can not be cut quite as easily as a normal man). He is far more resistant to damage from magical energy blasts, but he can't just stand there with his hands on his hips while Skeletor (or any other enemy using magic) blasts away at him. He definitely would not be able to risk letting an enemy shoot him with a laser gun (or even bullets for that matter, even though bullets are not used on used on Eternia). He-Man should be strong enough to dent a mountain with a punch, but not cause said mountain to crumble to dust with one punch. As for He-Man's enemies I see that non magic wielding ones as being incredibly strong too (anywhere from a class 60 to 100) with Faker arguably being as strong as He-Man. He-Man's enemies however are also NOT invulnerable. This enables non super powered characters such as Man-At-Arms, Teela, King Randor, and Decker to have a chance against them. The key to a believable He-Man lies not so much in making him weaker, but in letting it be known that he is not invulnerable.

    my thinking are along these lines as well. I like to belive He man, is class 100 at the very least. and ill explain, you see Grayskull, of witch way back in time. in the far past was the central point of all creation. we learn this in the MYP series, and I belive it is also mentioned in some of the newer DC comic series. that alone adds a supernatural and magical nature. because of witch the sort of God force, or unknown energy of some kind.

    that flows and is Channeled thro Grayskull, and then thro He mans sword and body. and give him superhuman strength and invulnerability. and of witch is why Skelertor, wants it so badly. to then go on and Concur the multiverse, as for why any of the lesser powered evil villains are able to fight He man at all. is because they to belonging to the magical nature of Eternia. have inherent powers abilitys, and to some extent invulnerability. but not at the levels of a Grayskull enhanced Eternian royal like prince adam. who the fates had destined to crown king. Grayskull, is the most powerfull source of power in the universe. perhaps all the multiverse, skelertor knows full well that if he could gain control of each doppleganger versions of Grayskull. Temple of power for example, he could very well rule over every corner of the multiverse unfettered.take all that into account that He man is able to go toe to toe with superman and supermans weakness are twofold magic and kryptonite. while we don't know how kryptonite, would affect Superman while on Eternia. as I imagine Eternia is another dimension and thus the Krytonite may have the opposite effect.maybe making Super man stronger to overcome the effects of being in a magical domain.

    Ok sitting here now leisurely sipping my coffee, and I still cant wrap my mind about this depowering He man to any level. anything less then what we seen in MYP, and I don't know I may be a little upset? now I want to say something and I know opinions will vary. I don't hope to rile up She Ra fans, im a She Ra, fan as well hope to get all of the MOTUC She Ra stuff one day. being a compleatest, but I sort of imagine wont depowering He man, also depower She Ra? and dose'int She Ra, channel the power of Grayskull, thro the dimensional barriers to Etheria? to become She ra, the depowering of HE man also depowers Grayskull. of witch would have a direct effect on She RA.when I was a kid the way I played was almost anyone who wanted to go crazy,and take the MOTU concept to the max. even a good guy would sort of star wars type flip to the dark side. and try to take on He man, and concur Grayskull. I often did this with Extendar, for no other reason,then being power hungry and the promise of Demi Godlike power. is to much of a temptation, and all the myths and legends, surrounding Grayskull. are partly to blame, including He mans thro all his varies incarnations, thro the eons.

    all I know is that the only source for Demi Godlike power right now for my MOTUC figs is Grayskull. until the three Towers appear, That might become the new seat of power for He man. surely Grayskull will still have to be guarded by HE mans most trusted and loyal allies.

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    I think that He-Man should have superhuman strength as this is a defining ability of the character. However, I do think there should be limits to what he can do, otherwise there is no drama. Sort of like Superman: The Animated Series. Powerful, but not invincible. Maybe he has to struggle a lot to move that moon.... only to find that this is a bit beyond him after all.
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