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They probably do it according to their personal favorites
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He-Guy and SeltenSelten33, thanks for the download. I hope some day that someone will get around to releasing an official box set of the music, there was tons of music from both of those shows, tons.
It certainly wasn't Haim Saban—that's 100% for sure. He's just an avaricious businessman with zero sense of ethics that's made a fortune by profiting from the work of others through royalty schemes, while paying the real authors next to nothing. He's not a musician by any stretch of the imagination—let alone a talented one. He's only talented at being a total jerk.
And as for Shuki Levy, although he is a musician, I doubt he had much actual involvement in many of the cartoon soundtracks he's been credited in. There's no way he could have actually composed about a dozen cartoon soundtracks in 1983-1984, plus countless others before and after, including years like 1987 and 1989 where he was credited in around 10 soundtracks per year. Taking his résumé at face value, one has to believe that Shuki Levy was incessantly churning out music from 1983 to 1999 at that rate of about one full soundtrack from scratch to finish every other month. No way he's been that talented and prolific.
Besides, there appear to have been two distinct composers working on separate parts of the MotU soundtrack, since there's a stark stylistic and qualitative contrast between the earlier orchestral-dominated themes and the later synthesizer-laden themes. So even if Shuki Levy composed some of that music, he certainly didn't compose all of it (unless he suffered from Jekyll & Hyde syndrome, acting like a remarkably talented composer capable of daring textures and superb orchestration one day, only to morph into a rather mediocre one resorting to simplistic run-of-the-mill synth tunes the next).
I don't think the names of the real ghostwriters behind these pieces of music will ever surface. Most probably, not even Haim Saban would be able (nor willing) to tell, since he has hired and exploited the talents of countless uncredited people and he certainly didn't care one bit about them to remember their names long after, even though to this day he's still reaping handsome profits from their work.
There's a guy out there (a professional musician), who all by himself has recreated and recorded parts of the Ulysses 31 soundtrack to near perfection. However, I don't know if he would be interested in recreating the best pieces from the MotU soundtrack that remain inaccessible.
Other than that, our only hope is that, rather than pointlessly wait for the original sound tapes to be recovered that were probably destroyed, the idea of searching for an overseas dubbing print of the cartoon eventually strikes someone at La-La Land Records. This cartoon has been dubbed into many languages in many countries (even into different dialects of the same language, and into minority languages), which means countless dubbing prints without the English spoken dialogue must have been produced and distributed to foreign local stations (I know for a fact that at least four dubbing copies were distributed in Spain alone, since the show was dubbed into Castilian Spanish for a VHS-only release, into Galician for broadcast by the regional TVG station, into Catalan by the regional TV3 station, and into Basque by the regional ETB station; and I'm aware of many other dubs such as: Latin American Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, French, Italian, German, Swedish, Polish, Slovene, Serbocroat... and I think there's even a dub in Mandarin Chinese). There has to be some dubbing print left somewhere from which the soundtrack without the overlaid spoken dialogue can be extracted (and I wouldn't really mind if some of the special-effect sounds/noises remained scattered here and there on some of the tracks, since some of those effects are also interesting in themselves and I don't think they distract from the enjoyment of the music the way spoken dialogue does).
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It might be possible that another model of synthesizers were used later on which resulted in a different sound.
Curiously, his (or someone else's) previous work on Bomber X has a theme which has a similar sounding beginning as that of Jayce and wheeled warriors, which, as you likely know, what done after She-Ra:
There's no need to search for it. That's been preserved precisely for dubbing purposes and Classic media has it, but it's unlikely any record company will bother with extraction of the themes.There has to be some dubbing print left somewhere from which the soundtrack without the overlaid spoken dialogue can be extracted
Anyway, if Shuki Levy DIDN'T compose He-Man, perhaps Henry Mancini did? Yes, THAT Henry Mancini. His theme for one of the seasons of Remington Steele bears striking resemblance to He-Man's theme (there was a thread about it a long time ago):
What makes it odd is that the season for which it was composed debuted practically at the same time as the first episode of He-Man (in US, that is. Mere 10 days apart) which ought to reduce chances of a rip off to absolute 0.
Now unless it's some bizarre coincidence, perhaps if was Henry's way of saying "Hey. Those cartoon shows... I composed 'em". The budget of cartoon shows might explain the lack of his usual full orchestra.
Oh, yeah, two themes originate from Mr T cartoon. Now what's special there is that the style is NOTHING like He-Man nor She-Ra ('cept those two themes, well one actually, the other sticked out like a sore thumb in She-Ra) despite the music being composed at the same time as He-Man!
Skip to 5:20 to hear one of the theme recycled for She-Ra. Now notice the general style of the music. It's A LOT more closer (albeit still far) to Henry's usual stuff than He-Man. So maybe, just maybe, Henry IS the actual composer?
Food for yer thoughts (and yeah, I know it's a HUGE stretch).
Last edited by Grimbot; October 2, 2013 at 11:13pm.
speaking of 'borrowing' existing music for the MOTU/POP series, here's another example of Saban/Levy (or their musicians) taking existing music and using it in the He-Man/She-Ra soundtrack. This original tune is somewhere from the 1970s and is definitely the reference they used for the 'circus' theme in MOTU/POP.
Fast forward to 0:36 to hear it:
you're right, it's not quite as close as I had thought, but there's still a good resemblance between the two... who knows if they used it as reference or not but they're close enough to say 'it's very possible'
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I'm not sure how many of you have seen this, but over on the OFFICIAL He-Man YouTube channel we will now be featuring an instrumental track from the series every Sunday! However, these instrumentals from the show have never truly been heard in their entirety!
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Thanks for the music. Really love it, but can you normalise it as the volume is very low.
Had all of the main shows music been released on CD before? I'd be more impressed if you put out tracks that haven't been put out already ;o)....
But I DO appreciate the high quality stuff!
Now, if only we can get someone to do the same for inspector gadget
Great job creating clean versions of the music!
On average, how much time take to isolate it from the sound effects?
I loved growing up in the 80's....wish my kids someday could experience the same thing....
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I listen to my cd from the box set regularly in my car. Would love to hear more music from the show. It's amazing how the tracks take my mind back to afternoons as a kid. Love the main theme!