Blackstar in the MOTUC?

**CocoaSmooth** · August 22, 2009, 01:45am

I keep seeing so many great characters have yet to be made....

Blackstar = Wun-Dar...It wouldn't cost too much to make him since all they would have to do is give He-man a different Head and sword and a neckless..

**bcrduke** · August 22, 2009, 04:02am

I love Blackstar - the characters are really cool.

Mattel SHOULD do a Blackstar line - but do it later, when they can just use all existing parts from different lines (DCUC, MOTUC, etc.). That way it would cost them virtually nothing, they could put it on mattycollector.com, and those who want them can buy them (I would buy ALL of them).

The problem is more Filmation. Doesn't Filmation own Blackstar characters??

It was a Filmation toon. See Mattel should just spring for a cheaper ALL-Encompassing license to do all Filmation characters. The adult collector world knows what Filmation is - they could do all sorts of characters...

**Eternian Knight** · August 22, 2009, 04:15am

I would love to see either a Bravestarr or Blackstar but I think Bravestarr has a better chance seeing as Mattel has already made a figure of him before.

However his original toy line was a failure but it would be cool to see a figure.

**Spectror** · August 22, 2009, 04:50am

Instead of having Blackstar in MOTUC, wouldn't it be more logical that Mattel would start a Blackstar line ?

Let's be a little bit realistic, here : there are still so many MOTU/POP/NA characters to be made that if Mattel makes them all as figures, we'll be very lucky.

We don't need other figure in MOTUC : the MOTU universe is rich enough

So why trying to add more figures that are not part of MOTU (agreed, Blackstar is another line with MOTU-like inspiration and with cool characters, but a different brand and a different collection) ?

This might actually cause the fall of MOTUC. And we don't want that, right ?

**bcrduke** · August 22, 2009, 04:53am

Originally Posted by bcrduke

Mattel SHOULD do a Blackstar line - but do it later, when they can just use all existing parts from different lines (DCUC, MOTUC, etc.). That way it would cost them virtually nothing, they could put it on mattycollector.com, and those who want them can buy them (I would buy ALL of them).

I mentioned that above.. but then I wondered about the legal issues

**Spectror** · August 22, 2009, 04:56am

In the 80's Blackstar was made by Galoob, not by Mattel. I don't know if it would be so easy for Mattel to buy the rights...

**Mike Bock** · August 22, 2009, 08:18am

Originally Posted by Spectror

In the 80's Blackstar was made by Galoob, not by Mattel. I don't know if it would be so easy for Mattel to buy the rights...

Even if they could buy the rights ,they wouldn't be able to do much with them.Blackstar is not an 80's icon and therefore not a big seller. It would be more profitable for Mattel to pick up the Thundercats' rights.

I like Blackstar a lot but he is not that popular, lets face it.

**BCI Guy** · August 22, 2009, 01:55pm

Originally Posted by Spectror

Instead of having Blackstar in MOTUC, wouldn't it be more logical that Mattel would start a Blackstar line ?

No, because it would fail miserably. There just isn't enough of a market for Blackstar. If Mattel had the rights, they could probably "sneak" a few characters into MOTUC and connect their story, but that would be the only way they'd sell.

**Faceless Glow** · August 22, 2009, 02:01pm

If they go after another line, it's not going to be a penny making line like blackstar, it's going to be a real money maker like Thundercats. Sorry but blackstar was crap in terms of sales, success, etc.... compared to Thundercats.

**Midwinter** · August 22, 2009, 02:02pm

I'm sorry to say guys, but unless Mattel makes some blanket deal to acquire rights to Filmation characters then I don't think we will see any Blackstar figures. Mattel would have no desire to license these character rights on their own or if they had to pay individually for them.

Although I would be all for mixing Blackstar with MOTU. And for those of you that are nay-sayers please read the names that have been given to the figures and you should already be upset at the line any way. He-Ro named Ro????

Now that you are already angry at the line please just support them making Blackstar for my sake. Two wrongs do make a right. Remember that...

**Faceless Glow** · August 22, 2009, 02:07pm

*What do the names of MOTUC have to do with Mattel going for the rights of Blackstar?

**phantom1592** · August 22, 2009, 02:36pm

Originally Posted by BCI Guy

No, because it would fail miserably. There just isn't enough of a market for Blackstar. If Mattel had the rights, they could probably "sneak" a few characters into MOTUC and connect their story, but that would be the only way they'd sell.

Correct. A blackstar line would NOT sell. However... I would LOVE to have Blackstar, Whoever his Mega-Evil was and The rideable dragon. Throw in the combinable swords... I would buy all three in a heartbeat!

However of that "line" THose are ALL I would buy. Nothing else is interesting. Thundercats however... they have LOTS of fun charcters I'd love.

Personally I like the idea of putting ALL these 80's products into a blanket MOTUC line. Make them all the same size, Say they all come from different planets... All the toys on the same self

C'mon... That's how I played when I was a kid. He-man, Voltron, Superpowers.... All Trying to get into Grayskull!

**BCI Guy** · August 22, 2009, 03:31pm

IF Mattel ever reclaimed the Filmation rights, there is a loophole that would probably allow them to make a Blackstar figure (although he may need a new name):

**Eamon** · August 22, 2009, 04:06pm

Originally Posted by BCI Guy

(although he may need a new name):

Redstar?

He was supposed to be black but they wussed out and so made him slightly non descript ethnic!

So years later Filmation then decided to give us a red indian hero in Bravestarr to only then have Mattel make him caucasian in the toyline!
Racism is such a fickle thing

**Amon** · August 22, 2009, 11:33pm

I'd Buy one in a sec! And i'm not sure what one but there was a Warlock type dragon in a MOTU episode. I like the ideal danielsan52 made saying that the idea the Jon Blackstar and Marlena were astronauts from Planet Earth who got lost in space, ending up on different planets. But first and far most i would rather have him as a bonus fig down the line when some more of the Main MOTU ppl where made.

**Tiggerbeast** · August 23, 2009, 10:30am

I didn't realise until a this subject came up, the Blackstar was an action figure. I was looking at a gallery of the toys and found laser Blackstar and remembered a friend had him. We used to play with him and he was a ally of He-Man.

Some of the characters look quite good.

I don't think there's Blackstar would have enough fandom to survive on its own as a toyline - so I'd be up for incorporating some of those figures into the MOTU line and mythololgy. After all, Queen Marlena was also from Earth.

I'd be happy for Blackstar to be incorported.

**Marvelous0ne** · August 23, 2009, 02:41pm

Blackstar was always a cool character. I wouldn't mind him being incorporated into MOTUC. Plus who wouldn't want the Star Sword added to your Weapons collections?

**gbagok** · August 23, 2009, 03:57pm

RE a new name, how about Darkstar?

Warlock, the Overlord, Mara, and Klone are all must haves. I can live without those silly Trobbits through. Oh, and they must make Lavalocks! I want those along with Helios and the fire people using Emiliano's idea to use Skeletor's 200X Fire armor. Sure, it'd all have to be translated into MOTUC like Zodak was, but that'd be so great. Maybe the Overlord's design can be Horde Supreme! I often used the Galoob toy that way, so it'd be awesome.

**Amberbratt** · August 23, 2009, 04:43pm

blackstar would not even be hard to make... I could probably do it and I am not even a customizer...

Smooth out the Boots with sculpy leave the fur same for the belt and bracelets paint the boots brown and bands "gold" construct a necklacke....

Master English could do this with Ease and Make it look awesome...

U should do it

I bet you it goes for over 100$ (just wait till he-man reissues) so you don't ruin one of the he-man u have right now LoL

**Invicta** · August 23, 2009, 05:44pm

Originally Posted by gbagok

RE a new name, how about Darkstar?

Warlock, the Overlord, Mara, and Klone are all must haves. I can live without those silly Trobbits through. Oh, and they must make Lavalocks! ....

Lavarocks! The dinosaur kind of rock monsters were probably best looking villain characters of the series, at least only ones I really liked. Other designs were mostly very average...

I actual had lavarock as a toy, although for some odd reason they had chosen that its head was made of transparent plastic for the "flash" effect.

**Frogster** · August 23, 2009, 05:44pm

Blackstar would be cool in the MOTUC and I would love his flying Dragon steed along with the flying Triton Bull.

**kolobosrexx** · August 23, 2009, 05:51pm

..."Blackstarr" was a cool show, cooler even than Filmation's He-Man! But it was way too short-lasted, and the Galoob toys although cool were never popular. And there's no sane rationale to include him or tie him into MOTUC, even if it were possible...

**AnnnaMot** · August 23, 2009, 06:32pm

so wheres that new MOTUC Custom ?

**The Horrorist** · August 23, 2009, 07:06pm

The cross-over concept is nothing new. There are 2 Alien Vs. Predator movies with moderate succes. Two iconic alien creatures from the same movie company. With comics, computer games and now the two movies which both had action figure-lines. It works cause they kind of explore similar concepts: 2 different alien species.

So with Blackstar Vs. He-man I don't see any difference just as a concept. But to actually do this would take too much time and money. So basically no profit.

But in my fantasyworld I'd love to see this happen. Merge Blackstar into the MOTUC-brand with a sticker to show it's faction or subgroup like: The Evil Horde, Princess Of Power, The Snakemen or New Adventures.

Give Thundercats its own brand. Thundercats Universe Classics. The same-shaped packaging with its own logo and art-work featuring. The figures would be basic MOTUC parts with newly designed heads, weapons and armor.

Bravestarr would fit more into NA, IMO.

**victoryleo19** · August 23, 2009, 07:15pm

honestly, blackstar would sell out just like all of the other figures. as for the other characters, i dont know. but if MOTUC had Blackstar as a figure next year im absolutly certain collectors and resellers would still flock to get it.

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