MOTUC Clawful Speculation and Discussion

[MegaGearMax]

A character I'm a little worried about is Clawful. Hopefully he won't look like a human wearing a crab costume. That human torso, arms and legs looks strange...



Maybe the 4H will make his crabby skin more like a gradient between the caucasian parts and the crap parts. On the old figure, the crab parts just ended suddenly as if it was a costume.

[Kevenn]

I definitely hope they try to bring more of the 2002 vibe into him. At least with the supersized claw part. But you're right, the human-wearing-a-crab-costume look - not intimidating! Reminds me of the Crab People from South Park. (Looks like crab! Tastes like people!)

[Darkspecter]

I think classic Clawful will look fine. He should NOT have the Skeletor legs though, he NEEDS the bumpy ones, like this:



It makes him look more like a creature. I also like the 80's big claw MUCH better than the 200X big claw:



The designs aren't terribly different. Maybe they can give the 80's brown skin the "scaley" appearance? If they make him like the 80's pic I posted, but with the "scaley" appearance on his arms, I'll love him.

[Brad2dbone]

It'll be interesting to see how they handle him. The 200X version was definitely much improved from the original. I think he could be really cool either way though, or even something in between.

[chuc98]

or even something in between.

This is what I'm hoping for! Combine the best of both worlds!

[evenflow]

He is my favorite villian in Skeletor's crew so i really hope they make him awesome. I am still bitter we never got the 200X figure.

[BlueStreak]

I love 200x Clawful, but after seeing MOTUC Stratos, I have my doubts...

Edit: meaning if they abandon the 200x look, and stick with the original figure design that I will be unimpressed.

[phantom1592]

I think classic Clawful will look fine. He should NOT have the Skeletor legs though, he NEEDS the bumpy ones, like this:


It makes him look more like a creature. I also like the 80's big claw MUCH better than the 200X big claw:



The designs aren't terribly different. Maybe they can give the 80's brown skin the "scaley" appearance? If they make him like the 80's pic I posted, but with the "scaley" appearance on his arms, I'll love him.

I don't know... I guess I just don't see the whole "man in Crab costume" that other people see. I don't see all that much difference in the designs. Size is about it, but we aren't going to get Giant monster villians. I prefer the 80's claw 100% more thant he 200x one. 80's just has a more powerful crushing look to it.

The only 80's thing that I would alter would be the armor, but the way they are doing armor today, I don't think i'd have any problem with THAT. I don't mind the 80's skeletor fin legs, but I do not want him to have the MOTUC skeletor toe feet. That won't look good. they need to bring in some more fin feet.

All in all Clawful was always one of my favorite villians for that cool weapon catching, gripping claw. I had a LOT of fun with him!

[King Kahn]

5. For MOTU, in the 200x line, two of the characters that had a major depart from the classic figures were Webstor and Clawful. If/when you approach these characters, what line will be borrowing from the most? I really prefer the classic for both of them but will you be incorporating things like the "back legs" on Webstor? You MUST include the grappling hook!

The artistic concept behind the entire MOTUC line is to offer the figures from the 1980s but with today’s standards in deco and articulation. Although this does not mean we won’t be taking some inspiration from the 2002 redesigns as well. As for Webstor’s final look, you’ll just have to wait and see.

this was just posted on the fwoosh forums.

so they may do a little 2002 influences with webstor and clawful.

i read it as webstor will have a bit more 2002 influence than other figs but then again that is just my wishful thinkin haha

[Multibot]

5. For MOTU, in the 200x line, two of the characters that had a major depart from the classic figures were Webstor and Clawful. If/when you approach these characters, what line will be borrowing from the most? I really prefer the classic for both of them but will you be incorporating things like the "back legs" on Webstor? You MUST include the grappling hook!

The artistic concept behind the entire MOTUC line is to offer the figures from the 1980s but with today’s standards in deco and articulation. Although this does not mean we won’t be taking some inspiration from the 2002 redesigns as well. As for Webstor’s final look, you’ll just have to wait and see.

this was just posted on the fwoosh forums.

so they may do a little 2002 influences with webstor and clawful.

i read it as webstor will have a bit more 2002 influence than other figs but then again that is just my wishful thinkin haha

I certainly hope so. Because to spend $20 for a figure that is essentially identical to Skeletor (which I already have) would be a travesty; when there's a much better design for the character that could be incorporated.

I very much disagree that those two were 'a major depart from the classic figures'. The design is still very similar, but the 4hm versions look 1000000x better imo. I really don't want bug/crab characters having human limbs....or my spider guy looking exactly like skeletor...again. If they're going to do that, then I'd rather they not remake them at all, until they can do them right.

Sorry to say it, but i can't see how anyone would prefer the 'classic' design over the 4hm redesigns for Clawful & Webstor... those were by far the best imo.

I mean come on.... how can a guy be named 'Webstor' and have nothing spidery about him?? He was always meant to be a spider (see 'The Cat & the Spider' filmation toon, and all the spider references toward him in various epidodes, such as 'web head').
And Clawful is a crab/lobster man, not a friggin sports team mascot. I'd expect him to look like the creature he's meant to be, & not a man in a crab suit.

the action figures should be based on the best design/representation of the character and not an 'uninspiring', bland, outdated carbon copy design. Don't get me wrong, everyone has their preferences; some of the classic designs for some characters I do like better. but not for Clawful & Webstor. We didn't get 200x figures of them, so i'd really love to have those designs utilized to some extent on these. i'm not expecting 200x figures of those, but at least something in between. There's no reason why Webstor can't have his extra limbs and Clawful be more crab like, all while still reusing parts.

I'm really anxious to see how those two turn out, more than any other figures in this line so far. To me, that will make or break the line imo. stinkor is another one I'd like to see look more like 200x than vintage.

I prefer the new designs, since they make the characters more their own and unique; much more than the vintage designs, but to each his own, I guess.

I have complete faith the 4hm will give us the figures done right to the best of their ability (given they have to reuse parts). I'm also interested in seeing how they handle the rest of the horde & snakemen.

[kelddorr]

I think classic Clawful will look fine. He should NOT have the Skeletor legs though, he NEEDS the bumpy ones, like this:

http://i20.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/0b/32/52ef_1.JPG

It makes him look more like a creature. I also like the 80's big claw MUCH better than the 200X big claw:

http://i20.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/f4/12/8c0e_1.JPG

The designs aren't terribly different. Maybe they can give the 80's brown skin the "scaley" appearance? If they make him like the 80's pic I posted, but with the "scaley" appearance on his arms, I'll love him.

man i love clawful one of the figures i had the most fun with as akid,and yeah i hope he's 80's inspired with the scaled brown skin,the 4 horsemen definatly have their work cut out huh?

I don't know... I guess I just don't see the whole "man in Crab costume" that other people see. I don't see all that much difference in the designs. Size is about it, but we aren't going to get Giant monster villians. I prefer the 80's claw 100% more thant he 200x one. 80's just has a more powerful crushing look to it.

The only 80's thing that I would alter would be the armor, but the way they are doing armor today, I don't think i'd have any problem with THAT. I don't mind the 80's skeletor fin legs, but I do not want him to have the MOTUC skeletor toe feet. That won't look good. they need to bring in some more fin feet.

All in all Clawful was always one of my favorite villians for that cool weapon catching, gripping claw. I had a LOT of fun with him!

buzzoff legs plz,and i agree about his claw,its like the claw and the mae was 2 weapons,a bonus to me,plus you can lose the mace abd still have clawfuls main weapon,i do hope that they would still inclunde the mace tho

[Rook]

Keep 200x elements as far away from Clawful as possible please.

200x Clawful was probably the worst travesty the line committed. And if they couldn't keep awesome 200x elements, say for example, Skeletor's head sculpt, then I sure as hell hope they keep the bad ones out.

[Mike Bock]

I hope Clawful looks like the classic figure with the whiplash/Buzz-off legs.
I love that figure.

[Evil Ed]

I hope Clawful looks like the classic figure with the whiplash/Buzz-off legs.
I love that figure.

Me too. I always loved that guy!!
I'm confident the 4H will do a great job on him!


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[Brad2dbone]

200x Clawful was probably the worst travesty the line committed.

Whoah! I can't believe my eyes. You really hated it that bad? What makes you hate it so much?

[KJ_81]

I think the 200X Clawful was the best redesign of them all.

I don't know how well it'd work on this line though, if he's using a standard buck, then he's going to look a bit weird anyway.

[Rook]

Whoah! I can't believe my eyes. You really hated it that bad? What makes you hate it so much?

Becuase I feel that they removed any character from him by trying to turn him into a generic scary monster. I feel the same way about Tunglashor and Beast Man, but Clawful also has the added handicap of reminding me of MYP's handling of the character which I didn't like. Clawful is about the only 200x character I can honestly say I hate in every way, shape and form.

[discosupafly]

I definitely agree with you in regards to the stupifying of Clawful (ugh, that voice..) as well as the generification of Tung Lashor from his amphibian-looking roots to "big pink monster". However I really didn't mind the Beastman redo; Infact I quite prefer it. He changed to a somewhat more simian build (think, gorilla) and so maybe he was dumbed down a bit - but the Filmation version wasn't about to win any Nobel prizes either. Anyway, the MYP Beastman was much more capable in a fight than the "run up to He-Man and get flipped/pushed/kicked out of the way" fall guy that was the original. Indeed, the updated version at least had battle cunning to his credit.

PS: I feel certain characters should never be remade. *ducks rock*

[Rook]

Oh, I'll agree that Beast Man was pretty cool in the MYP cartoon, but the design just never worked for me. If Beast Man in 200x had looked like the MOTUC Beast Man, and if the MYP design had mirrored that, Beast Man would've been perfect all around, imo.

PS: lol

[BlueStreak]

Becuase I feel that they removed any character from him by trying to turn him into a generic scary monster. I feel the same way about Tunglashor and Beast Man, but Clawful also has the added handicap of reminding me of MYP's handling of the character which I didn't like. Clawful is about the only 200x character I can honestly say I hate in every way, shape and form.

While I like MYP's physical appearance of Clawful, his characterization was terrible. The voice acting was awful IMO. I liked Beast-Man in MYP, although I could see where he was dumbed down, which does take away from him.

The best Clawful, ever IMO, is Filmation Clawful.

[MegaGearMax]

Beast man was dumbed down? I thought he was even more capable in MYP.

As for Clawful, I think Filmation did him the best and 200X did him the worst, at least in personality. The look is another matter. 200X got rid of the human/caucasian elements from the vintage figure and made him more crab like. While I'm not suggesting Clawful to be the 200x version, I would like it if they tried to make those human parts look more inhuman. I think he looks like He-Man wearing a Clawful costume..take away the Whiplash legs and you think a guy is wearing a Clawful head, gloves, boots and armor.

[Skeletortilla]

Well, the original Clawful figure had a nice transition area of bumps on his right arm to match his claw, but they didn't paint it.

I think a nice shaded paint job transitioning the crab and human parts will go a long way in making the MOTUC figure look great.

[yodafreakmaster]

I would personally like to see a bit of a blend with Clawful. He was the lamest character from 200X, but he had a pretty solid design. I never liked how human the original figure looked. With that being said, he had one of my all time favorite action features! If only MOTUC's could have some action features........that would make the line absolutely perfect.

[jackstatic]

I dont know, man, clawful, whiplash, and buzz-off had some of the biggest changes from vintage to 200x.... and i loved all of their 200x versions, now i know, webstor was a huge change too from vintage to 200x, and they kept mostly true to vintage, but to be honest, i never really had a problem with vintage webstor, he looked like how he was drawn, so did buzz-off (maybe a little bulkier) but whiplash, and even more so, clawful, never looked right to me as a kid. and i cant quite pick out what exactly stood out to me, but i always remember being somewhat disappointed as a kid. now dont get me wrong, i loved them regardless, and clawfuls action ability made him one of my favorites as a kid (which also made it that much more upsetting when in 200x he never received a proper figure) and as much as id like too see them heavily 200x designed, i feel like i know how they will be done. very similar to webstor, mostly identical to the original, with some kind of 200x nod. buzzoff will probably have those two extra insect legs (reused from webstor im sure) in addition to the 4 wings, whiplash will probably have some kind of posable tail with like a wrecking ball nub on the end of it, like 200x maybe a longer loincloth. (im VERY interested in seeing how his tail gets done as i hope its posable and not crappy rubber coming from his neck) and clawful, well, im sure his shell will be, as mentioned earlier, more shoulder pad type like 200x then tank top armor from vintage

[eternia23]

A character I'm a little worried about is Clawful. Hopefully he won't look like a human wearing a crab costume.

clawful was definitely in my top 5 toys as a kid. and honestly? i'll take the "human wearing a crab costume" look. but that's just me. i'd just prefer the Classics to pay homage to the original toys rather than try to create "more realistic" characters. that was the 200X province and it'll be the province of the people designing the characters for the new movie. but that's not was this line is about (to me). and so far they've done a wonderful job paying homage to the vintage figures. that's why i love this line.

bring on the crab costume!