I have two of these and I love them.
I'm actually in love with the New Filmation line. It's Actually the first male Classics I own. I have a question though. Why is the Filmation sword so hard to produce? None of them look right IMO, Now if there is someone out there who has produced one that they sale PLEASE INFORM ME because I haven't found one yet. It's always one of my biggest dissapointments even from way back in 200x, usually followed by the look of Grayskull and the Sorceress...
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She-Ras sword is just about perfect, but for some reason they can't scale hers up and remove the gem for He-Man. I don't know why they reused the disproportioned Classics version instead of making a new one.
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It's not hard. They got the Filmation Sword of Protection perfect with She-Ra and Adora. There are quite a few talented people on these forums that have made great 3-D printed Filmation Swords of Power through Shapeways and others that have sculpted great ones. The Four Horseman can do it, but I don't know why it hasn't happened. I wish someone would ask them about it.
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I think the real problem with them is :
They never look the same. One time they are shorter, one time they are longer, sometimes they are wider…
FILMATION made them always look good but their sizes always changed and length wise they were actually short sword but that would look stupid as they would be considered to short….
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I've been meaning to buy a pair of Filmation swords from EvilMike but had a question: Which set is best to get? I'm a bit confused with all the different versions that I see offered. I mean, there's a Sword of Glory 2.0, a Bigger Sword of Glory, as well a Sword of Defense 2.0 & 3.0!
I'm tempted to get the Perfect Match set but are those 2.0 or 3.0 swords? Is there even a 3.0 Sword of Glory? What's the difference, anyway?
Sigh, one of these days I want to place a big order for these accessories, they're cool! I also want She-Ra's Sword-to-Shield and Netossa's headdress. I already got a pair of Alcala swords and they're great!
Aside from the usual issues with translating a 2D drawing to 3D, I think perhaps the original "Filmation" sword that the 4H sculpted was put through the "classiciser" machine to make it fit with the MOTUC aesthetic and bring it slightly more inline with the original MOTUC sword. Of course, they just used this sculpt in a new color for He-Man 2.0.
Now, I'm not a fan of the Filmation sword: I don't like the shape, I'm not sure if there are balls or flat circles on the guard, it was drawn inconsistently, and I think it looks weak and wimpy compared to the original sword as well as the MOTUC sword (my favorite take). I know, that's sacrilege to some, but that's the fun thing about opinions!
To take it one step further, I like the 4H's modified "Filmation" sculpt better than the cartoon version and all the others you folks have been posting.
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Actually, I kinda agree with you...I really like the MOTUC Power Sword too. My favorite is the all-silver one that came with Castle Grayskull, I have it on my default TRU He-Man. Filmation He-Man is very close to replacing him, though...They both look cool to me!
Overall, I like the official Mattel weapons better, when they make them, than most of the custom ones. He-Ro II's Alcala swords are pretty neat and a lot of the Filmation stuff that I wasn't sure would ever be made, like Corrodite crystals, Trap Jaw's Fly-Swatter arm, Horn of Evil, Havoc Staff, and Bone Throne, are already in the works. They may not be as accurate as some of the custom ones but they're already painted and come included with the price of the figure, which is nice.
When it comes to the Power Sword & Sword of Protection, though, I just feel that EvilMike's versions in silver would look awesome!
The Perfect Match sword is the power sword done as closely as possible to the MOTUC sword of protection. The two pack is literally the same sword, but with one made with a thinner handle and a gem socket for a hobby store jewel.
The bigger version is the Perfect Match version, just bigger.
The 2.0 is "knobby". The corners of the hilt are really round and pronounced. (Angel-T, are your swords there 2.0s?)
I think he only does the sword of protection in the 3.0 style. To my eye, this one is broader at the base of the hilt, making the blade seem oddly triangular.
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The side guards arent the same length and the are positioned at different angles from one another. One side has china on the handle whilebthe other side has what im assuming is part of the mold injection as a circle right in the middle of the sword.
Which the funny thing is if they had just taken the existing She-ra sword, removed the Jewel and gave it a bigger handle they would have had the perfect Filmation He Man sword.
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I think they are just fine. Sure the customs seem better, I suppose. But then I would 100% rather official product that Shapeways. Sculpted & Cast is better than Shapeways to me, so that I'll go for, but what we got is fine all things considered. But yes, I can see the difference subtle as it is with the cool Shapeways ones.
The swords in the show are pretty inconsistent and the official Mattel MOCUT take is perfectly fine. Of course I never liked the Filmation swords as much as the classic sword, and now I do mean Classic interpretation over Vintage even.
I would be less concerned about the specific sculpt as the size. It was always my understanding that the swords are exactly the same excepting the jewel, and yet the swords are always disproportionate to each other. What I really want is a Classics style She Ra Sword that is the same size as He Man's. Same sword, but with the jewel. As yet I cannot find a loose she ra sword of protection to use to make my own custom (cut out the jewel and setting to add to He Man's sword) so this desire goes unfullfiled, or even with any fan outcry, so I guess I'm alone in this.
Now that you mention it I do have Flogg's Sword of Power & She Ra's sword and they are not the same size either, are they? Is the filmation sword that comes with He Man just a repaint of Flogg's Sword of Power or a new sculpt?
Again, I'd like to see them the same size side by side. Hers & His. The specific sculpt is fine otherwise.
All I can think is it's some safety thing. Maybe they can't make the sword as long and thin as it should be as it'd be too dangerous in case one of us is stupid enough to jab it in our eye.
I agree though, the filmation sword they have released so far looks way too small and not right in general.
What's even worse than that is that when it was originally released with Flogg, what, 2 years ago now, there was a ton of negative feedback from fans regarding the lousy sculpt of that iconic sword that we've waited 3 decades to get, yet then they showed the exact same sword with Filmation He-Man last July at SDCC. Once again, fans voiced their displeasure. Despite all that time and plenty of criticism from customers spread over 2 figure releases, Mattel still wound up giving us the exact same sword that nobody wanted. That is an inexcusable failure on their part.
Unlike many other problems in the line that have been pointed out to them that it was too late to fix, they had PLENTY of advance notice on this one. On top of all that, all the way back in 2009 they managed to make a Filmation accurate sword of Protection for Adora, which just adds insult to injury.
It should have been one of the easiest fixes that Mattel could have done, and would have shown the customers a great amount of good will, yet for some inexplicable reason they dropped the ball. Seriously, 8 years into the line and a very high profile mistake gets repeated, which would have been painfully easy to avoid? I shouldn't have to go to a third party source to get a proper power sword. It's ridiculous.
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Amen, hope the movie figures are not produced by mattel so we get accurate weaponry
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The sword isn't hard to produce, especially for the 4H...the problem is cost. The new He-Man figures with the new parts and scuplting probably had to reach a certain cost. This meant they had to use an existing sculpt for the sword rather than a new sculpt.
The figure would have probably been $26 or $28 with a newly sculpted Filmation sword included. I think it was to keep the cost at a level to be able to offer the figure at $20 (below industry standard cost for 6" BTW).
I seriously doubt a small sliver of plastic equates to a $6-8 difference in price on a figure, even after factoring in sculpt/tooling costs. Especially since this sword would most definitely be reused many times over.