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So um. its about the same same size of the 200x one? The 200x has two "sides" that fold out.
I think its a good scale for the ORIGINAL figures , but c'mon, 25-.00 for a slightly larger remake of the original greyskull?
The tone of green that they have been using doesn't quite match the original nor the filmation. Also there's nothing paying homage to the filmation greyskull that I can see. I would have liked a platform with a bridge and maybe some spikes in the back? I dunno. This is a bit of a lazy effort for the price
How the hell am I gonna display my figures on the front side of it when they're all hiding on the back.. does that mean I'll have to get two? Or am I gonna have to get some slowly rotating device that spins it around my living room .?
Sorry, guys. I am excited to some degree..BUT I can't help but notice these flaws. It could have been better is what I'm saying ; yet, I have to get it because I'm pretty stupid about these things. Damn it
It's a different beast from the 200x castle. The size, I think, is much better than that castle.
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Yeah... a foam model ain't the real thing. Plus, the inside is still totally empty. Mattel will have to make much bigger efforts if they want more fans to buy this Castle Grayskull. I'd be interested to see the MOTUC Castle Grayskull foam model compared to the 200x version...
I wasn't aware the 200x Castle was that big. That's quite surprising.
And I do think it's bigger than the 200x castle. Scott has said it's a few inches bigger.
Also, the 200x Castle sucked - the skull-face was uninspired, sterile, and had the Mattel-mandated "Asterik) on it's forehead. The insides were more or less 1982- "inverted outside-sculpt" and there were electronics that lessened the entire line (Teela Boot anyone?).
You may have valid complaints that it's not the "full, 4-walled playset" that Scott talked about before, but it's still an improvement over what's come before, within the limits of cost and profit.
Looking at comparison pictures between vintage Grayskull and 200X Grayskull and the vintage Grayskull and the foam core mock-up of the proposed Classics Grayskull and comparing where certain features lined-up and compensating a bit for perspective and that sort of thing, I've made this comparison chart. If someone who has both the Classics and vintage Grayskull can give us exact measurements this could be even better, but from what we've seen I thin this is pretty close.
You can see the Classics CG's overall bulk is MUCH more impressive.
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I'm curious as to what kind of packaging this will come in. As a MOC collector, I really don't have any interest in it because it will more than likely just be a picture on a box to me, which is why I didn't order the Wind Raider. Do you think there is any chance Mattel will make a windowed package for this beast?
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I agree with your comments but I think there are definitely a few things I'd love the 4 horsemen to keep from that incarnation of Caslte Grayskull. Namely:
1. It's probably too late for this, but the new CG could have benefited from the 200X castle's 3 walls format: Instead of opening in 2 panels, there were three panels: the facade plus two back panels that connected together when folded. That allowed you to have a 3 wall castle when you look at it from upfront.
That was actually pretty nice even if it divides the width of the pack panel by 2 when you open it.
2. The Hall of secrets. The FRICKIN' HALL OF SECRETS!!!! That was super cool because it was a secret passage that led to that antichamber with the frickin' chromed version of the Power Sword! I loved LOVED LOVED this. And you can see it from outside through the window when you look at the façade. I would LOVE the 4 horsemen to keep that element for the castle. It had that pebbled golden panel, it was really nicely executed.
3. The balcony. You could have figures standing there pouring hot tar on Skeletor... Or the Sorceress could be serenaded by her many suitors that she talked to on a single mom dating website. Duh. Essential to my Castle!
In regards to Filmation, in the 'What castle Grayskull do you want?' poll; the majority voted for the Rudy Obrero box art... But the Filmation Castle Grayskull came at a close second. This means that a lot of people would love to have Filmation elements to the Castle. I would love the 4 horsemen to give us:
1. Snap on / removable Filmation fangs fore the Castle Façade. Makes way more sense than the removable minaret piece on top.
All you need are a couple snap on teeth and you can make the castle grayskull you want. Everyone wins. Everyone preorders. Everyone is happy.
2. The Portal to Etheria. The new castle is way bigger than the old vintage one which means there MUST be room for a mirror sticker (similar to Bubble Power She-ra's sticker). Fans would go CRAAAAZY! That would be soo cool! They could also include a 'negative' print of the She-ra Sword. You would put the She-ra sword into the wall and pretend it activate the portal!
3. The Sorceress bed. The one with a falcon (or did I just imagine this?) that she wakes up in, at the beginning of the Secret of the Sword.
This looks awesome!
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I personally disliked the 200X Castle Grayskull, and its major departure from so many of the cool points that the vintage playset had going for it to simply incorporate electronic gadget style features
As for the size/scale comparisons of the 3 castles.
The 200X castle is  inch taller than the vintage Graysull [minus point dread attachment], and  inches wider on each face of the vintage Grayskull.
BUT saying that the 200X castle is a all you need for a stand in as a MOTUC Grayskull. Well thats your personal view, but its one I must personally disagree with as a fan of all the different MOTU lines equally.
The MOTUC Grayskull is  inches taller and  inches wider than the 200X Castle Grayskull.
So thats a MASSIVE increase in the size/scale of Grayskull.
Plus the MOTUC Grayskull is a vintage upgrade with some concept and Alacala style elements added in for more detail. So the simple fact it satisfies multiple MOTU fan groups wants for the look of Castle Grayskull, I feel this is now THE definitive look for Castle Grayskull and is how I will always personally see a non 200X the Castle from now on.
You are forgetting that this will be sculpted by the 4 Horsemen to be ultra detailed an forgoing any gadgets an electronic gimics. So the visual appearance alone will have to be KEY selling point for the sells of this castle. That alone is hands down is the easiest reason to buy one of these new castles in my book.
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Although, the interior of the 200x Castle does have some cool elements.
Although, if it doesn't happen, there is always hope for extra preorder Grayskull walls if this one does well. Imagine a right wall dedicated to 200x elements, and a back wall for filmation elements?
The Left tower is 22 inches, so you can see looking at the picture and the 22 inch mark how big the other (shorter) tower will be.
(The new shorter tower is still taller than the tallest tower on the 200x version)
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Remember when people were paying between $500-1000 + shipping for the 200X NECA Castle Grayskull door? People were spending $200-300 + shipping on a custom cast of it, too. You can get an entire Castle Grayskull WITH it's own door for $270 shipped.
I think we should start looking at it like that.
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I just love this CG that Matty is offering. I have great feelings that it will go through.
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