Yeah, my only concern regarding the castle is where I would put the thing.
My display is not something that I want to move and if it won't fit on the dedicated basement shelving, I would probably just stick with the original.
Size, depth, is the most concerning part of this. Will it open? If so, I could probably fit it on my display.
I guess time will tell.
There's always been two main audiences for CG: the full-playset audience, and the fašade-only audience, for reasons of space and/or budgetary constraints. That's why Mattel should cater their products to both audiences, instead of trying to come up with some intermediate solution which is not going to fully please either (a $200 half-castle is too expensive for the fašade-only audience, and falls short of the expectations of the full-playset audience). Just like the Battle Ram (full vs. Sky Sled), they should offer both options (4-piece castle at full price, and 1-piece fašade at a reduced price), and just like the Battle Ram, the expectable larger amount of fašades/Sky Sleds sold would help the tooling of the full thing.
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So; if thats the case; I would imagine the MOTUC Grayskull would be about 2-4 inches taller an 2-4 inches wider per side.
So if you would display it open it would be 4-8 inches wider so that u can place figures inside for a large display area like vintage Castle Grayskull could be.
I hope this will help a few people figure out where they can/will place there MOTUC Grayskull.
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I've already hatched a scheme to display mine. I'm going to find a local consignment/thrift furniture store and try to snag one of those round hall tables - the kind that people put potted plants on (I suppose the rectangular kind would work, too, depending on Grayskull's dimensions). If I'm lucky, I might also be able to find a lazy susan, so I can display it open (assuming it does open up), and then spin it around to show off whatever side I feel like.
One thing that would be great would be if they were to do the payments on the castle in several installments. I'm sure a lot more fans would be able to stomach $200 over a 4 to 6 month period rather than all at once.
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I'll definitely be pre-ordering two, especially after turning to my significant other at the panel during the CG reveal and saying, "Best Christmas present ever."
Let's say mattel wants 200.000 dollars to make cg, that's 1000 preorders of 200 dollars.
If they don't get enough raise the price till the quota is met.
Mattel needs to start the preorders with a quota on only the amount to make a profit.
But not a quota on the people you need.
They could set a sale bar ( a correct and up to date one this time) and announce the price at 200 dollars a piece if the bar is full . If the bar isn't full the price can go up until 300 dollars.
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Check out this photoshop of a middle ground Castle Grayskull design by the super tallented Alessandra. It's silimar to the vintage CG box art over all. However, it has almost all the details from Mark Taylor's prototype design, eyes and cheeks similar to the vintage box art. It has a nose and big chunky teeth silimar to the Filmation design and some what akin to the vintage toy box art teeth and nose. Personally I think this kind of hybred design gives something to all fans of Castle Grayskull rather than just honoring one look. The design needs to appeal to the widest range of fans to support the pre-order. I know this won't be to everyones liking, but as a happy medium (just like the vintage box) I think it's great and contains a number of the iconic elements that fans have absoloutely loved about Castle Grayskull over the years.
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A preorder system is the best thing, Mattel could do. I just can't understand why they didn't came earlier with this method?
I really don't see the problem with the 200$ price point? Granamyr alone is 80$, are some folks thinking, they get a castle for 100$? I expect to be charged, when the thing is ready in 1 YEAR, so what's the problem for saving the money? I expect, because of my location to pay 350$ final. If I really want it, I'm able to save money for that thing.
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One thing I'd say - I wouldn't take things too literally when they say they are taking inspiration from the proto. There are certain elements they'd like to keep in, but it won't look EXACTLY the same. I'm sure there will be some hybridization.
In the end, though, it's going to be impossible to please everyone. There are so many options. For instance, in the photo manip above, I really don't like the eyes looking so cartoonishly evil. They should look like impassive sockets. I like Grayskull to not look like a cartoon ghoul, but more a realistic (organic, imperfect) skull around the eyes.
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I am super excited about Castle Grayskull.
A few thoughts and tidbits:
1. In terms of style, I think we ALL LOVE certain aspects of the Filmation as well as the Mark Taylor prototype. I'm confident that Toyguru and the 4 horsemen will sign off on a hybridization that encompasses the best out of both versions. It would be awesome to have something as in-your-face as the Filmation Castle, as opposed to the slightly flattened out Mattel one. The castle was meant to be a 'suitcase' in which kids could carry their figures, so it had to be pretty flat when folded. I would be in favor of ditching that aspect and have a really protuding face on the castle.
2. In terms of interiors, this is where the 4 horsemen could totally blow us away... Imagine a shadowy, ominous 'HALL OF SECRETS' passage where you can store the power sword (my FAVORITE element of the otherwise disappointing 200X castle) ... And a throne room for the Sorceress. It doesn't have to be HUGE, and if it's just a hollow plastic wall (molded in one piece), it would just make this thing insane! I know we can't expect too much for 200 bucks ,but I really hope they go crazy with it. Surprise us. Go the extra length to make this the definite Castle Grayskull. Sure, there is NO reuse possible for the sculpt, but if the castle blows EVERYONE AWAY, this might put MOTUC classics back into the spotlight... And also leave the door open for a Snake Mountain playset. If Castle Grayskull goes through and they get enough people to pre order, Snake Mountain for 2014 should be a no brainer.
3. I am really not worried about buying something I haven't seen beforehand. Why? When I look at the face of 'Castle Grayskullman', Scareglow's accessory and the amazing castle resin statue, I TOTALLY trust that the 4 horsemen will go crazy with it and deliver us the ULTIMATE Castle grayskull. Can't wait to see the blue print or concept sketch that will be shown at the NYTF. But again, I don't need that to sign up for the castle. Even if it wasn't shown, I would sign up. I remember talking to the 4 horsemen once at a Comic Con about Castle Grayskull and it sounded like this was a dream project for them to be able to do one for the Classics line. And Toyguru loves Castle Grayskull.
4. For those of you worried about storage / How much space this is going to take... Well, I would tend to say that, if playsets are not for you, whether Castle Grayskull is big or SUPER BIG won't probably make you change your mind. So let's go for SUPER BIG!!!!
If Mattel doesn't go too cheap on the paint apps and the wash, this upcoming Castle Grayskull might look like a museum piece. The windraider is a thing of beauty. Bring that level of quality to Castle Grayskull and even non-motuc fans might buy it for diorama purposes. There are not a lot of playsets that can accomodate 6 inches figures in today's shrunken toy market. A great looking Castle Grayskull would be the perfect background for Dr Doom's Latveria lair... Or any Conan / Heroic Fantasy figures. Just sayin'.
I remember how some of my friends that are not into MOTUC bought the Battle Cat toy. Why? Cause it was probably the best toy of that year. So frickin' awesome. I have high hopes that Castle Grayskull might be the ultimate playset ever. Am I setting myself up for disappointment? Maybe. But I have great faith in the 4 horsemen and Toyguru. This could be the best thing ever!
EDIT: One more thing. I was looking at that round 'sticker' cardboard base that goes around the Mark Taylor Prototype.
I think it would be AWESOME if the 4 horsemen made that into an actual 3D, sculpted base that's actually high. (maybe 6 or 8 inches high) and that would make the Castle look even more fearsome and ominous. That would make the Jawbridge 6 or 8 inches higher than the ground and allow awesome posing with the figures hanging from it, legs kicking in the air etc. :-)
There's another problem about basing Grayskull around the original playset: the height. The original toy was about as tall as a two-story house for the vintage figures, not a full-blown castle. Now we're getting a Classics version that will have all the chincy action features of the vintage version, and to stay on budget it will probably be once again a two-story house in height. I would much rather the action features be skipped in favor of four huge sheets of plastic for walls that can be assembled to create a true castle. Let's worry about forming the interior through playsets and display pieces like we've been doing with the Weapons Rack. This is the only chance we'll ever have to get a tall, true castle for our figure displays.
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Giving how low they're setting the price, my first instinct is to brace for sub standard materials and paint. If the sculpt was done by anyone besides the 4H, there'd be absolutely no way but that's how the line has always worked. If they can pull this off with a minimum of hitches, this will go along way toward healing some of the damage done recently and give us enough momentum to take us into the last full sub year. Presumeably.
Another impossible opportunity to miss out on though. Who doesn't want to see a true vintage styled 4H CG?
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Well, 200 dollars is NOT cheap. I can't remember how much the wind raider cost to make. 200 dollars is A LOT MORE MONEY.
Besides, if you think about it, a castle Grayskull doesn't involve that many different parts. The front facade will probably be 2 or 3 parts to mold, tops. I think what makes a toy expensive is not its size but how many different molds you have to create. An action figure has many different parts cast which makes them really expensive.
So if you 'flattened' a vintage castle grayskull, there would not be a lot of plastic. It's pretty light.
The expensive part I think would be to recreate the interior. If 100 dollars are used for the outside facade, which doesn't seem like a big stretch, they have another 100 bucks to spend on interior rooms. A throne for the sorceress, an updated hall of secret with a secret passage, and maybe a jail, and voilÓ!
I wonder what the size comparison will be when next to Granymyr?
I want 4 walls. PLEASE can we finally get a Castle Grayskull playset that has 4 walls that can open up into a huge interior playset? Include a tall staircase that leads to the throne & a pedestal for those who have the bronze 2008 King Grayskull figure & yes, the flight suit would be awesome.
Maybe make Castle Grayskull with two walls so it can fold up like the original & ALSO include the Right & Back side of the castle that also folds up, then when it's open, we can connect them together for a full on open spread interior or close it up so there are 4 full length walls or close up the Front & Left side of the castle like the old toy & stow the Right & Back elsewhere. Gotta have a removable roof there too. (I hope I made sense trying to describe what I'm visualizing in my head. Maybe later I can make a diagram to illustrate my idea.)
Lose the Simpsons style overbite, base the skull design on a mix between original toy & Filmation & PLEASE give it 4 full walls.
I want my other half.
I think that's why they are announcing before it's drawn and shown - my guess is the look may be tweaked based on feedback.
If it looks like that pic shown, then I'll order one. If it looks more like Filmation or Vintage Box art, then I'll buy at least two.