It's pretty funny seeing people post "Shut up and buy it!" and "For the love of god pre-order Castle Grayskull!".
On one hand I realize that this is in many ways our collective holy grail, far above and beyond our individual clammorings and hopes for certain vehicles and figures.
On the other hand, we love this line so much that that we want all of it to be perfect and go on for as many years as possible, and we certainly don't always get perfect, so we raise our voices (a bit too aggressively at times) and will get every bit of input we can offer, so Mattel and the design team can make the best decisions and give us the very best products.
No need whatsoever to try to reinvent the wheel by scrapping the near-perfect sculpt the 4H have already done for the Icon Heroes statue, and start all over again from that obscure unrefined early prototype very few people care about, to finally give us a lame 2-sided rendition that fans didn't ask for. I can't for the life of me understand why on Earth they don't go the most obvious way. Do people remember any fans requesting a CG based on that obscure early prototype? It seems to me it's only Toyguru who would want it that way, backpedalling from his earlier statements that if they did CG, it would be a full castle.
As for the robot and other interior props—including Filmation's Sorceress throne and mirror, the vintage throne/Zodac's chair, and the vintage laser cannon and training device (the vintage elevator I can easily do without)—I'd much prefer that they were offered separately as accessories at a later date, just like the Weapons Rack and Point Dread. That way they wouldn't impact the price tag for the castle's main structure.
And as for the price, even if it had to be in the $300-$400 range for the full building, we'll be having one whole year to save up for it (that would be about $30 per month, i.e. about the price of one monthly figure). To put such a price into perspective, LEGO's Death Star and Super Star Destroyer each sell for $399.99 (and that's a mass-produced item available at retail)—which maybe is not for everyone's pocket (if not willing to save up for it), but the mind-boggling awesomeness of those LEGO sets are well worth that money. Same for Hasbro's jaw-dropping Millenium Falcon, which is about half the size of a Classics Grayskull and retails for $179.99. In both cases, they didn't skimp on the final product just to lower its price tag (even if it meant a higher price point than many customers would have preferred), and as a result customers get gold for their money.
Please, Mattel, give us the truly definitive, full Castle Grayskull (in Icon Heroes statue's image) this brand deserves, that won't pale in comparison with LEGO's Death Star or Hasbro's Millenium Falcon. Don't cheapen it or compromise it just to lower the price tag. If it has to be as expensive as LEGO's Death Star in order for it to be done right, so be it. People who can't afford a $300+ price tag right now, might be able to save up to afford it at a later date (if not directly from Mattel, there's always the resellers); whereas there's not going to be any later chance to have a definitive Castle Grayskull produced if Mattel cheapens out on it at this unique one-and-only time.
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I do like the idea of a new Castle Greyskull but 2 bills.I don't know.We haven't even seen a picture of it yet let alone what kind of features it will have.there are a lot of unkowns about this.
Your argument about the castle needing all 4 sides is a valid one. I don't agree with you because I think it would be way too big to live on a shelf. It would be like 2 feet deep (or more!) One would need a table to display it. The classic toy clam sell version is a decent compromise, but imperfect. I personally hope they go 200X style with its opening mechanism. Again, imperfect, but if both sides can open a full 180 degrees, you can really get a big wide castle that is suitable both for display and play.
(I will say that I do really like your idea of selling it in 4 pieces. But if they did each side as a preorder, I'm sure the sales would be lopsided and they may not get produced. It's a rad idea, but I just don't know how practical it is.)
I have over $500 invested in a custom I am making (pics in my profile)... and I will still pre-order this one.
I'm gona be on the fence about this until we get more info. I've already got the classic Grayskull from when I was a kid, and the 200X one as a gift back before the 200X line died off. I can't fit many large items in the 'ol collection, and I'm not getting rid of either castle, OR my Ghostbuster house.
Main thing will be seeing the specs and what they plan to offer. I'm already still going back and forth on Granaymr, and this is gona be a WAY bigger investment, especially with the fact that we're getting a house soon. If I'm gona afford the castle, I'll need to cut off most of the other things in the toy budget. I guess we'll see...
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Are there any images of the INTERIOR of the Mark Taylor castle concept? I can't find the image that was used in Scott's presentation. It looks like it has much more "scene dynamics" than the later versions made. I love what I am seeing.
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For me, nothing beats the Filmation castle. It looked terrific from every angle. Very mysterious, iconic and awesome. Kids around the world recognize that.
I know there will be people pleased to see something more based on the vintage playset...but don't you find it really...wonky looking? All asymmetrical and loosey-goosey?
That original design sketch turns me off. Definitely even rougher and weirder than the original playset.
I'll be skipping this. If it were Filmation, I'd be there!
The filmation design is the definitive Castle Grayskull for me, I'm afraid. The fang-pillars, spinal column and turrets are a major MUST HAVE on any MOTUC CG. Sorry!
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I'd be VERY happy if that was what we got.
In FACT... continuity wise... I'd be a LITTLE disappointed if they DIDN'T stick with that
Honestly, as a kid, I never really noticed a DIFFERENCE in filmation and toy... they were BOTH awesome.
As for the Price?? They got VERY lucky I'm been on a spending spree right now... 2 years ago, $200 would have been a deal breaker. It's STILL kind of insane...
However, I JUST bought a an old school diecast Voltron for $100.... I'm 3 lions in for the Mattel version... and THAT will end up being what? $250? $300? Afraid to do the math there.... I was just looking at the MW Veihicel Voltron coming out for Preorder... and that's about $250... TEMPTED... since I'm trying to pay for college in january... and MAY still do it. I'm not a FAN of Vehicle Voltron... but the articulation and detail on that is AWESOME...
Soooo $200 for a CASTLE GRAYSKULL?!?!?
That sounds AWESOME right now!!!
NOW... I'm coming in LATE here... WHAT do we know about this??
1) WHEN does the Pre-order happen? Start, Finish??
2) WHEN do they CHARGE us??
3) When are we expecting it to be released??
Has any of this been determined yet? Or is that still up in the air?
Vintage Castle Grayskull (and artwork/painting) is the most iconic. Booyah!
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Man o man I can't wait for Grayskull! I really hope we can get enough pre orders up to make this happen.. the holy grail of MOTUC in my mind.
Perfect world we will blast the required number of pre orderes out of the watre and then the year after get Snake Mountain!!
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SCB mentioned on Fwoosh that Scott wants to make it 4 sided!!!
Gaping holes in my collection: Regular old Teela, Weapons pack 1, Power & Honour book 1, SDCC artbook (maybe)
Err, no...he said it won't be 4 sided.
Originally Posted by SCB
That's fine. I would ideally like the other side, and can live without the back. But as the going rate seems to be $100 per wall, I'm glad it's NOT four sides, lol