Likewise, the floor part of the castle (that half circle at the ground floor) HAS TO HAVE sculpted rocks.
below the window, whereas on the prototype the upper floor is attached above the window.
In the blueprints the upper floor is above the window, too, and the the wall at the gun turret
comes to the ankles.
Not true. The extra outlay on their part would be reclaimed due to their reputation being restored and folk buying into the line because of the castle.
Not as it is now, with folk not wanting to deal with Matty anymore with the castle being the last straw regarding their horrendous catalogue of lies and incompetance.
I dunno about anyone else, but I wouldn't want a lack of paint detail and say, a cardboard throne or something like that to justify it being under $100.
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Take a good look,...it's very much smaller
Can I just say that it's hilarious that anyone thinks anything that gets said is going to make a difference in terms of the final product. Mattel doesn't care what you think. They never have. There's been two clear constants in this line:
Scott will do whatever he wants. If he thinks something is cool, he will say that fans are going to think it's cool, and will ignore the vast majority saying they don't like it. I repeat: Scott will self-serve until this line is 100% dead. But he'll always act like that's not what he's doing. It is. And it's as transparent as it gets.
The second thing is that Mattel does NOT change anything due to fan input unless it is cheap, easy, and convenient for them to do so. This isn't just MOTUC. It's all Mattel products. Mattel has never changed something people didn't like or wanted to be different unless it was cheap, easy, convenient or some combination thereof. If it's an easy way to say "see, we do listen!" then they'll happily do it. Otherwise, nope.
And that's not even a shot against Mattel. It's ethically and morally null. It's not a judging statement. It simply is.
Is the Castle too small, both in terms of something as absurdly simple as headroom, and in comparison to the mock-up we were sold this toy with? Yes. There's absolutely no way to deny that it's smaller. Will that change? Also no. I'm not saying we shouldn't be outspoken about how brutally douchey it was of Mattel, but I just hope no one is expecting anything to change. Except for the worse.
Also, purely my personal preference: I think it's stupid to invest resources in things that could be sold separately, rather than putting the money into the CASTLE itself. You want to make the space suit or the dumb glider? Sure, knock yourself out. Sell it like you sold the Weapons Rack. I bet most Castle-owners would buy, for sure. Maybe in multiples. But taking all that money OUT of the Castle? You'd have to be out of your mind or completely self-absorbed to think that's even remotely a good idea.
Every single dollar of the budget should be invested in making the bare essentials of this Castle as perfect as they can possibly be. Period.
That's just my opinion, though.
I went ahead and sent Matty's customer service an order cancellation message. I'm not 100% pleased with how the castle looks and if Mattel indeed accepts order cancellations, I'll use that option. When the MOTUC castle was announced I cancelled my pre-order on the Icon Heroes Castle. If Mattel approves my order cancellation, I'll go ahead and order the Icon Heroes castle again. I've been very happy with how it looks and the only reasons for cancelling the order in the first place was that I can't fit two castles into our home. And with the money left over I'm going to treat myself to the Filmation sub.
That's good for you. I want to cancel mine, but I'm still holding out hope that there are some changes at SDCC that will make me change my mind. I know it's a shot in the dark for the castle to have a bigger entrance, but hey, if it's not fixed, then I save $300. My original King Grayskull box will suffice for my Grayskull entrance.
And while I did get a Filmation sub, I would rather use the Grayskull money to pay for that as well.
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Ok so the most popular questions raised in the 'ask 3 questions about CGS thread ' are
1 the head room above the Jaw bridge,
2 lose the wind raider stand,
3 sculpted details on the inside ,...
Well what do you thing designs answers will be? ???????????...
1 the castle is to far along in the development for this to change, sorry the door stays the same,
2 the wind raider stand is more popular than you think, the people that dont like it are more loud than numerous, we think the stand will be awesome,
3 there may be more details on the inside, most likely it will be the reverse details from the out side, just like you remember from the vintage castle .
Well there's your answers folks,... It will be interesting to compear....
The biggest complaints I've heard are....
1) The castle is too small.
2) The wind raider stand is a waste...
3) they want to take away accessories...
I look at the icon statue.... and I like the way it LOOKS... but it's even SMALLER than the classics one. has NO interior at all... and comes with ZERO accessories.
If all people want is a 'facade' to stand people around... even as small as Classics IS... it's STILL bigger and more in scale than the IH ones.
phantom1592: I personally see these two castle serving two different purposes. I'm thinking of putting the IH CG (if I get one) on top of my display cabinet as a decorative piece. The MOTUC-castle on the other hand would be too big for that purpose and I'd have used it more as a diorama setting for my figures. $350 is a big investment for me personally, and the displayspace the MOTUC-castle would require is a big investment as well since I have limited room for displays. I want to use those resources as well as possible and after seeing the early version of the castle I'm thinking that the IHCG would be a better fit for me. So with IHCG I'm not looking for something in scale with the figures, but something to fit the overall MOTU/POP - collection found in our home.
I hope that helps.
The castle will be shown at SDCC... that's when 2014 subs go on sale... Now, if Mattel were really smart, they'd plus-up the size and throw in a ton of bonuses... that would inject a jolt of joy, and confidence into the customer base.
Imagine how great the response would be... "look, they listened and made the castle closer to the size we were originally promised, and they fixed some of the other things! I'm definitely signing up for my 2014 Subscription!!"
I fear for the 2014 sub if the opposite happens.
I expected to buy those things later. I also expected the dimensions they showed. I love the SCULPT... but the Mattel Design contribution so far has been to limit the 4H, and reduce the product.
I can't say I want to celebrate that.
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Given the high cost of the castle (worth it or not), I AM in favor of future castle expansion packs with accessories, etc. As KnightDamien said. make the castle the best it can be and the way it should be. I would totally pay for a fully articultade spaceman suit. extra accessories that probably should be included with the castle but are in an expansion pack. Its a great idea, even for people who dont buy the castle, they would probably want extra figures, weapons, etc...
its WAY to early to even think about this since the actual castle hasnt been revealed (SDCC). so maybe this is something to petition for after the fact.? either way. Sure there are imperfections or things we dislike. but afterall we aren't designing and manufacturing the castle, we dont have a choice.
however, given that this is for the adult collector and made SPECIFICALLY for us, it would have been awesome for the fans to "pick" what that castle has and how its built, other then the box art. It's a nice gesture, but its not the meat and potato's.
I fear that the fact that the Castle came in shorter than what we were shown, this will kill any hope for a Snake Mountain or Fright Zone due to the fact that people won't trust Mattel.
It's a shame really.
I really do wish they would drop that Wind Raider stand. Since when did Man At Arms give Lt. Spector permission to stash it in the castle? It appears to me that it's just another unnecessary mark made on the Scott Neitlich line.
I don't get the fuss over the Wind Raider stand. If you don't want to use it, don't. Scott has already made it clear we wouldn't get something else in exhange for the WR spot.
I still think they should have stuck with 2 floors. If they do that with Snake Mountain, they can make it the same size as the Castle and headroom won't be an issue.
What if the Windraider stand is the reason for the lowered entrance ?
Maybe the ground of the Castle was raised ,so the slot for the Windraider holder could be embedded into the base plate?
Just one possibilty, cause otherwise it does not make sence why they raised the ground floor within the Castle.
Since the door has to be even with the ground floor to prevent a step direct behind it, it also was raised and thereby shortened.
I wonder if we will indeed get the answers from Mattel today?...
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