What is the size difference between this the 80s and 200x?
What is the size difference between this the 80s and 200x?
The original castle was all of 18" tall.
The 200X castle was taller, not sure how much, maybe two-three inches taller, but it's a different design, the proportions are way different when you look at skull to door to top ratios.
The new castle will be around 24"-25" tall without the minarette thing at the top.
And it's more or less based on the vintage so it's scaling up from 18" to 24-25".
The door on the vintage castle is right around 7" tall, maybe a little less? I'm not 100% sure.
The new door will be 9.5" tall.
Can't wait to see this foam mockup video! Anyone hear if/when that is supposed to go up?
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It's mainly because of Filmation that 99.99% of the world doesn't take He-Man seriously and passes him of as a ridiculous camp.
In America maybe. Here in Europe nearly all the merchandise was based on the toys, the comics and the licence guide. And yes, my parents read those comics to me (well, translated of course) and those are the images I remember, not the cartoon.
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I'm pretty sure the 200x CG is 21" high. But it is a different design, like Baena said, so it's not a great comparison. This new CG is going to look much bigger when its finished. The width and depth are a lot bigger, there is so much more plastic than the other two! I can't wait for the Pixel Dan "Comparison Time" to see the three versions of CG next to each other.
Edit: I can't wait until the VZX "Comparison Time" so I can put my original CG, 200x CG, and the Classics CG next to each other!!! The Classics Castle Grayskull MUST get made!!!
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This has probably been asked, but are there any hints of space suit man being included ?
The only problem I have with EC's Filmation argument, isn't the matter of opinion. It's the 99.9% quote.
Nice made up number there...
Here's another one for you. 100% of the toy success lead to the cartoon even being made.
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Loving all these pictures! The spire shows up in a lot of the Golden Books.
Regardless of all the points made as to which look should be made, MOTUC is pretty much a toy line directed at obsessed internet fans. I'm sure lots of people recognize Castle Grayskull from the Filmation cartoon, but I doubt there is a huge demographic of "unobsessed non-internet using fans" waiting to buy a $250 dollar plastic castle that has a complicated preroder system, is only available on one website, isn't a sure thing, and won't be available for over a year. I think Mattel is definitely marketing to the "obsessed" crowd.![]()
Thanks for the replies. I'm really wanting to preorder but was wondering if the scale will be good.
I personally don't care which design they use. IMO Grayskull can essentially be altered and still be recognizable to most people. It needs to be green andhave a huge skull on the front. I just hope it turns out nicely.
We have to hit the top of the thermometer, right, not the red arrow that says "goal" right next to it? I think a logical person could come to either conclusion.
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There are rumblings of Scott putting together a video showing a foam mockup to show the size. Can't wait to see that! I could be wrong but Zombiehamma said the scale is comparable to his facade that he made. (check it out!) https://www.facebook.com/TheCastleOfPower
I'm guessing his is slightly bigger still than what Mattel is doing? But maybe not? Scott said the old one would go to it's eye sockets. That appears to be the same for Zombiehamma's piece?
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Do you guys think Castle Grayskull will be the colour of the Grayskull stands in MOTUC? That would allow for us to create some sort of ruins around the Castle, which would be neat.
I like how the Castle currently looks from the schematics. The only things I would like to see: slightly longer front teeth, the door in green (like the original toy and Filmation) and have some Filmation stuff on the inside, like the Sorceress' viewing window thing and her throne. The Filmation throne is pretty creepy!![]()
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Wow! So hostile and insulting. Good grief
To insinuate that children didn't read (or couldn't), and were a bunch of couch potatos--and that those who enjoyed reading weren't 'normal'--is ridiculous. Your "I only watched tv" experience can't be generalized to the entire fan population, who had books and comics as well as toys and actually enjoyed them.
Alfredo Alcala's work is also iconic, to even try and insinuate that it isn't is, again, preposterous. The end.
Obsessed internet fans? What are you, or any other filmation fan on here? You've been throwing around a certain number, but you do realize that 99.99% of people also don't care about that cartoon at all, haven't watched it since it's heyday, could tell you very little about it, and would cringe if they watched it now...right? Just like with every other cartoon that was ever made.
I posted pictures of the same design of the cross-sell castle--which you said no 'normal' person had ever seen--yet it was on most merchandise. Now you are claiming something completely different. But by all means, keep moving the goalposts in your neverending quest to bash on motu and its concepts.
I'm done.
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I know this argument is going in a few directions, and I'm not butting in to say that my opinion is the most popular or anything, BUT: I was one of those kids that got the minicomics when I couldn't read yet. Born in 83, so pretty much all the He-Man stuff was chew fodder or absolutely insane battles - BASED on the minicomics. I loved those things; I can't remember anyone reading them to me, but it's possible. Mostly I remember those pictures. They're kinda burned in my brain, ya know? I used to flip through those things all the time. The most I remember from the cartoon are sounds, some motions, Skeletor laughing, and this one episode where a robot He-Man's face fell off and revealed a robotic skeleton face underneath (I didn't understand it back then so it scared the CRAP outa me).
I don't know why the cartoon didn't stick with me like it did with most others...perhaps it was all the flash and bang. I remember colors and sounds, but I don't remember plots and characterizations (probably was too young). The minicomics though...I kept flipping through those long after the cartoon had ended. I used them to formulate my stories when I stopped chewing on the poor figures, and the images in there are the most nostalgic thing for me (beside the old books that came with cassette tapes).
I'm not saying you're wrong and I totally understand how the cartoon formed a generation of kids, but I think this castle is a fantastic representation of the classic look of the toy and how it was portrayed in just about any media beside the toon; at least, from anything I can bring up from memory. It resonates with me pretty deeply. I guess what I'm saying is that just because this show came around before I could read; it doesn't mean that the cartoon was the first and foremost representation of He-Man for me. I can't say if I'm in a super minority, but I'm sure I'm not alone.
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My own request for the castle to be 'as many things to as many people as possible' would be to make the battle ledge on the outer tower removable, if possible. Aside from the minaret, it's the one major difference from the licensing image, and it breaks up the symmetry.
(Got the Castle with Skeletor and Man-at-Arms for Christmas in 1983; first exposure to the cartoon was January 1984. Only major US stuff I missed in my pre-Internet fandom was the first four mini-comics. As far as I'm concerned, the toy is Grayskull first and foremost; Filmation and prototype touches are nice but not essential.)
I have to disagree. I grew up in France and the UK and Filmation was the definite Canon. Every kid screamed 'by the power of grayskull' in recess while playing He-man! While some of the design had some legs, even as a kid, I disregarded those comics which looked wretchedly executed in comparison to Marvel Comics.
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