Evil Flying Character

**danielsan52** · April 25, 2009, 02:21pm

Skeletor Evil Warrior who can fly. The good guys have Statos and Buzz Off, even The Sorceress if you count Zoar.

I wouldn't mind an all new evil warrior who could fly. Maybe someone with demon, or bat-like wings. Or an evil Avonian character.

**Shokoti's Slave** · April 25, 2009, 03:18pm

Well, if Filmation wasn't off limits, I'd say a 4 Horsemen version of Batros would have been ideal.

**adam03** · April 25, 2009, 03:34pm

To me any new characters kinda defeat the purpose of calling them classics

**Darth Latveria** · April 25, 2009, 03:39pm

Originally Posted by danielsan52

Skeletor Evil Warrior who can fly. The good guys have Statos and Buzz Off, even The Sorceress if you count Zoar.

I wouldn't mind an all new evil warrior who could fly. Maybe someone with demon, or bat-like wings. Or an evil Avonian character.

I'd be all for it. A demon-type character would look good.

**Darth Bong** · April 25, 2009, 03:57pm

As soon as i saw this thread, Batros came to mind.

I'm all for the original characters being re-made. That's the idea of the MOTUC line.

At the same time, i'm loving the new figures we're getting that have never been produced before. Like King Grayskull and He-Ro.

Just make them all!!!

Darth Bong

**beyond the legends** · April 25, 2009, 04:17pm

I think the characters called the Chiropterans (sp?) were really cool in the 200x styled comics and they were a flying race and there were also the Speleans were potential villanous characters from the 200x cartoon.

Since they were characters from the MYP and the Comic I would think they would be allowed to be made in this line.

Toby

**Tiggerbeast** · April 25, 2009, 04:27pm

Another flying filmation villain - Vultak. But to be honest, i thought he looked a lame like False Face. MYP did reinvent and create some really cool characters.

**phantom1592** · April 25, 2009, 05:22pm

Personally I wouldn't really have a problem with a new character once in a while. Maybe one a year. Like He-Ro. I agree the main focus should be on the older characters, but I did miss some of the later characters, and all the NA Characters, so they are like brand new characters to me anyway

Also there were a lot of LAME characters in the later lines, that I would LOVE newer characters before we ever got them. If I had to choose between Dragstor or Blastattack and The King Lion guy from MYP... Ohh I know who I want first

But yeah, People shouldn't have to wait too long for their personal favorite character so we can get a never seen guy. Maybe one, Two tops a year. And if they used the comiCon slots then they wouldn't even take up a months spot in the subscriptions.

**Mattlor** · April 25, 2009, 10:24pm

Perhaps if we ever see Demo-Man made.. maybe he will have wings.. and be bat/demon like?

**Mr. Shokoti** · April 25, 2009, 11:22pm

Originally Posted by adam03

To me any new characters kinda defeat the purpose of calling them classics

I think using the 2002 designs and/or characters does as well. Unfortunately, there's still a bunch of people who prefer the 21st century version of He-Man over the original.

**AnthonyHall666** · April 26, 2009, 03:57am

I'm sure Skeletor could fly if he wanted to. Ooh look at my post number that's numberwang!

**Spacedust** · April 26, 2009, 08:39am

When I was a kid back when the original toyline came out, when my friends and I first heard of Buzz Off, we assumed he was evil. Both because the Heroic Warriors already had a flying warrior with Stratos, and because Buzz Off did look a little evil on first glance.

I've always thought there should be a wasp counterpart for Buzz Off ("Waspo?"). It would be easy to produce since many of Buzz Off's parts could be reused.

**tylerm23** · April 26, 2009, 01:24pm

The lack of an evil flyer has been on my mind. Of course, there's no good guy underwater either. Hmm... good above and bad below...

**RocketPunch** · April 26, 2009, 01:57pm

Originally Posted by tylerm23

The lack of an evil flyer has been on my mind. Of course, there's no good guy underwater either. Hmm... good above and bad below...

Well, there is the New Adventures character Hydron. And the proposed 2nd season of NA was supposed to have the Guardians & Mutants arriving on Eternia with He-Man and Skeletor, so then Mer-Man would have had a heroic counter-part.

But we still need a proper flying villain. It's one of the reasons why I never cared for Stratos, as he has no airbourne adversary to fight.

**j-bird** · April 26, 2009, 07:59pm

I always figured the bad-guys didn't have a flier because they didn't really need one ... so many of them have long-range attacks (Skeletor, Evil-Lyn, Trap-Jaw, Tri-Klops if you like him having optic-blasts, etc.) that they can just shoot down the flier from the ground.

The other reason they don't really need one is because, well ... all Stratos really does is fly. He's never really been depicted as a big fighter (which I think is a shame - flying-monkey-dudes are COOL).

**hhhelmsley** · April 26, 2009, 10:21pm

Originally Posted by Darth Bong

As soon as i saw this thread, Batros came to mind.

I'm all for the original characters being re-made. That's the idea of the MOTUC line.

At the same time, i'm loving the new figures we're getting that have never been produced before. Like King Grayskull and He-Ro.

Just make them all!!!

Darth Bong

I agree.

**Multibot** · April 28, 2009, 06:04pm

Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti

I think using the 2002 designs and/or characters does as well. Unfortunately, there's still a bunch of people who prefer the 21st century version of He-Man over the original.

Have to disagree there. Just because it's called 'classics' doesn't mean they have to strictly stick to the old & outdated (imo, inferior) designs.
Transformers had a line called 'classics' but none of them used the original toy molds or original designs. Yet they still resembled the characters just the same, but as toys were much better.
If they can make something look/function better, I'm all for it. The vintage line is out there for anyone who wants those. they don't need to rehash that again when they can make motu so much better imo.

'Classics' refers to the toyline/mythology as a whole, imo. MOTU is a 'classic' toyline. That doesn't neccessarily apply to the characters and /or their designs. He-man is a 'classic' character, but that doesn't mean they should/have to only make the orignal version & not the other He-mans as well.
As far as new characters/designs go....If there isn't going to be anything new offered in the new toyline, then what's the whole incentive to collect it? why would anyone want another toyline that's the same characters/designs they've already had for 20+ years or could pick up on ebay at any given time? makes no sense to me. For any new toyline to thrive they have to make new characters/sculpts/designs that haven't already been done before.

I say, bring on new characters that have never been made, and have some 200x elements to make each one more unique. If i wanted them all to look like clones, i'd stick with the old figs & not bother with the new. It's hard to say if motu will ever get another chance, so they should make them the best they can be & not have this 'strictly-stick-to-old-designs-cause-it's-called-classics' mentality. Maybe they should go back to having their legs held on by rubber bands, and have rubber heads, arms that pop off, etc. cause its 'classic'.

lol, thanks but no thanks.

Everyone has their preferences, i suppose. hopefully everyone will get what they want out of the new toyline in due time.

Maybe some people prefer the 21st century He-man because it's the one they know/watched on tv? Not every motu fan was around in 1982....Don't forget that. 'classic' to one isn't neccessarily 'classic' to all. I've been a He-fan since the Filmation days, & I know a better design when i see it. old=better for some characters, but not for all of them imo. maybe you don't want new characters/designs, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be made. some of us do want new things out of a new toyline, otherwise what's the point? the motuc line is meant to include everything that's part of motu, regardless of which 'era/year/toyline' it's from. That's what makes it a potentially great toyline imo.

on to topic- yeah the villans really don't need a flying guy, since so many of them are magic and can just shoot the flyer out of the sky. If they ever get the rights to filmation characters, then Batros could be made. The heroes have no underwater guys, and function just fine without one.

**gbagok** · April 28, 2009, 06:33pm

The integrity of the word "Classics" is so not a priority to me. I want Faceless One, Keldor, Carinvous, Marzo, Marlena, Illumina, Sirse, Dactys, Praavus, Calix, etc, and I won't compromise that because someone wants the line to be limited to a smaller selection. As far as I care, the word refers to the proportions and aesthetic of the sculpts/designs, not the character availability. I already have to give up my Shadow Weaver, I should not have to give up anymore.

**BURTDAWG** · April 28, 2009, 09:26pm

Originally Posted by Spacedust

When I was a kid back when the original toyline came out, when my friends and I first heard of Buzz Off, we assumed he was evil. Both because the Heroic Warriors already had a flying warrior with Stratos, and because Buzz Off did look a little evil on first glance.

I've always thought there should be a wasp counterpart for Buzz Off ("Waspo?"). It would be easy to produce since many of Buzz Off's parts could be reused.

Waspo?Hmm................

.....................I may steal that Idea.................................

**JVS3** · April 29, 2009, 07:42am

In the 2002 comic, Emiliano and I were going to have a bad guy called Waspor that was part of Skeletor's crew, as a counterpart to Buzz-Off.

**Jukka** · April 29, 2009, 07:52am

Originally Posted by JVS3

In the 2002 comic, Emiliano and I were going to have a bad guy called Waspor that was part of Skeletor's crew, as a counterpart to Buzz-Off.

Them were days filled with hope and dreams.

The comic would have had sooooo many great possibilities.

**Sir Reilly** · April 29, 2009, 09:05am

Originally Posted by JVS3

In the 2002 comic, Emiliano and I were going to have a bad guy called Waspor that was part of Skeletor's crew, as a counterpart to Buzz-Off.

First those Mirroworld, Batros-esque guys, and then Waspor! So much potential that never saw the light of day.

**Spacedust** · April 29, 2009, 11:16am

Originally Posted by BURTDAWG

Waspo?Hmm................

.....................I may steal that Idea.................................

Be my guest

**gbagok** · April 29, 2009, 07:12pm

Originally Posted by JVS3

In the 2002 comic, Emiliano and I were going to have a bad guy called Waspor that was part of Skeletor's crew, as a counterpart to Buzz-Off.

OMG! I loved the MVC characters and want more! Illumina, Might Bite, and now Waspor! I hope we'll be seeing that design somehow...someday...

**RocketPunch** · April 29, 2009, 07:18pm

Originally Posted by gbagok

OMG! I loved the MVC characters and want more! Illumina, Might Bite, and now Waspor! I hope we'll be seeing that design somehow...someday...

Might Bite? Who is that, Illumina's cat companion?

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