So if we could do Filmation, which characters would you want as toys?

[PaulPjas]

Aahh yeah those robot knights would be awesome i forgot about those! And an acurate Filmation Evil Lynn would be great too.

[Sandman]

As I said over in the other thread...

As someone who grew up on Filmation episodes, a ton of their original characters were horribly dull and would make boring toys. While Mattel have proven they -can- do things with this kind of character (the updated Marzo is probably the big example), I wouldn't want to see most of the one-shot characters without a major retooling.

I also definently would hate to have precious slots wasted on "Filmation style" repaints of existing figures. That's so easy to do yourself if you really need it (it's also so easy I bet Mattel would do it to get some 'easy' money...).

What I'd really want to see are remakes with greater details and cooler looks of some of the more important figures. A great example of how to do this are gbagok's redesign of the classics.

Figures I'd like to see would be:

* Shokoti
* Evilseed
* Sorceress (Though I'd honestly prefer the 200X outfit for her)
* Marlena (In some sort of battle gear. I don't want "bystander" figures. )
* Scorpia
* Shadow Weaver
* Batros
* Granamyr (Do we know if he's a Filmation trademark? I mean since he was in a mini-comic as well)

Possibly:
*Octavia
*Vultros

The following should be dragged out back, hit with a shovel and then buried deep deep down, never EVER to be seen again!

*Widgets
*Loo-Kee
*Madame Razz and Broom
*Those plant people from POP
* Any non-Orko trollan
* The Starchild
(Hell, ANY child character from either show! Keep Jake Lloyd out of this...)

That's my two cents. I'm an iconoclast, I guess.

[Mr. Shokoti]

As someone who grew up on Filmation episodes, a ton of their original characters were horribly dull and would make boring toys. While Mattel have proven they -can- do things with this kind of character (the updated Marzo is probably the big example), I wouldn't want to see most of the one-shot characters without a major retooling.

This is a moot point until Mattel gets the rights to Filmation. Even if they do get them eventually, I wouldn't expect another "Count Marzo" since the people at Mattel who are above ToyGuru(I have no clue who they are or how many of them there are) were unhappy with how detailed & "anime" Marzo looked. I'd be shocked if they had any of the major 2002 inspired re-designs that you like.

[Sandman]

This is a moot point until Mattel gets the rights to Filmation. Even if they do get them eventually, I wouldn't expect another "Count Marzo" since the people at Mattel who are above ToyGuru(I have no clue who they are or how many of them there are) were unhappy with how detailed & "anime" Marzo looked. I'd be shocked if they had any of the major 2002 inspired re-designs that you like.

I'm not saying they should look 200X.

I'm saying a cartoon-exact figure would look very out of place and often quite lame alongside the existing MOTUC. Maybe if they'd started out with everything having a "cartoon" look (See the DC animated figures for an example), but as it is it would suck to have what is essentially a sub-line where the figures don't match up.

I much prefer the better-colored, more detailed looks they've given the MOTUC figures than the simplistic ones from the cartoon. And if they do any Filmation-exclusive characters I sincerely hope they do the same there.

[bnlvince]

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hey, toyguru.
i'd actually like to see any and all characters done in the filmation style. i would love to own a filmation looking he-man, skeletor, trap jaw etc..

we definitely need masque.
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I agree 110%. bring on Lord Masque!

[Super He-Man]

I also definently would hate to have precious slots wasted on "Filmation style" repaints of existing figures. That's so easy to do yourself if you really need it (it's also so easy I bet Mattel would do it to get some 'easy' money...).

I never get this particular argument. Do people really think that all collectors are also customizers?

[Sword-of-Grayskull]

Apart from Shadow-Weaver, Scorpia & Octavia, I found most Filmation non-Mattel characters a bit dull (but it could be because they didn't have a corresponding toy & didn't get into my games). But monsters like Mulcrum (Molkrom) are exceptions.

The demon Mulcrum is a centaur-like thing from "Reign of the Monster". Skeletor is aided by the Torgs, beginning this great episode with a dark incantation - the monster then almost succeeds in gaining entry into Greyskull.


The rad thing about Mulcrum is that his horse-half will have a mold to share with Swift-Wind & his body could be "standard buck". So you've just got the tentacle arms & head to worry about. Maybe he can be packaged in a crystal along with Skeletor's burning brazier.

That's what's so amazing about the Filmation characters - there are so many giants that Mattel could do. Mulcrum, Colossor, Granamyr, just to name a few. In fact, add those three names plus Lord Masque to my list.

[wayne-klops]

While I would welcome just about all of these characters, the ones that are most necessary, to me, are the PoP characters that were never made as toys....

Shadow Weaver
Scorpia
Imp
Octavia
Madamme Razz & Broom
Sea Hawk

but all the others would be awesome as well!

[Mr. Prozac]

Two random names:

Delora
Sea Hawk

[Jii Dee]

Shadow Weaver
Scorpia
Loo-Kee
SEA HAWK FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
General Sunder
Colonel Blast
Mallek of Stone Mountain
Marzo Chimera servant
Lord Masque
Shokoti

[bamf1980]

I'd like to throw in an additional two cents and say that I would be all in favor of taking the Filmation characters and reimagining them as if they they HAD been made in action figure form in the 80's.

Some of the designs are a little bland and could use a little spice.

..except Shadow Weaver. Leave her as-is. Thanks!

[SAMURAI36]

Well you know the sad thing is I'd want Filmation characters, but I'd be much more excited to get 200X updates to most of them. A few are fine as they are, Shadow Weaver, Scorpia, Shokoti, Octavia, Seahawk etc. But some of them need help.

I'd like King Helios for example, but I'd much rather he come with a Classics version of the Fire Armor from 200X's FA Skeletor than to be a straight interpretation of his boring Filmation design. And I guess that's probably the whole problem, why want a character that has to be changed to be good? I want him because he's part of MOTU, but even as a kid I thought his design wasn't satisfying. He made an impression though, so am I wrong to want him but different?

This is my view as well.

As for me, I'll throw the usual suspects into the hat:

SEA HAWK
DRE-ELLE
MADAME RAZZ & BROOM
SHADOW WEAVER
VULTAK
ADMIRAL SCURVY
OCTAVIA

Hey, is TG still reviewing this thread?

[KingHiss]

I would be very pleased with any and all Filmation characters that members have posted about in this thread. My personal Top 15, in order with Lizard Man as #1:

Lizard Man
Shadow Weaver
Icer
Fangman
Shokoti
Masque
Catra
Strongarm
Kittrina
Octavia
Scorpia
Batros
Plundor
Granamyr
Dree Elle

[CicconeSC]

I would love any & all Filmation characters. However it would be sooo dope if Mattel could somehow get the rights to Vipra from BraveStar. She would be an awesome addition to the Horde.

Some kind of crossover, where she joined the Horde while escaping from Bravestar. Also we could bring in Mara from Blackstar!!!!!!!!!

Wishful hoping, but if Mattel can't do Vipra, maybe create a new Horde member who is similar without infringing on copyrights.

I also just wanted to point out that the A-list characters could easily be brought back in filmation design as a bonus figure or even just as a reissue (filmation style). That would bring a new take on the reissues, while most fans would snatch them up, even if they already have the MOTUC first release. I know i would buy a re-release of all a-list characters with filmation appearance.

I know that if Mattel brought back a reissue of Zodak with helmetless head, he would far outsell the original release. I still feel that the Goddess and Zodak would have sold way quicker, if instead of just a repaint of a figue, they had a unique head sculpt. Also Goddess could have easily been slightly different from Teela by removing the leaves, which the character did not have in the mini-comic. I don't think it could have been that difficult or costly for Mattel to remove the leaves.


PLEASE BRING OUT AN ALTERNATE HEAD PACK or Zodak WITH HELMETLESS HEAD! That was what I loved about the 200X Zodak, I want to see his face with the awesome tattoos.

There are so many great ways to reuse the already released characters and have many fans buy them, just a change of paint application or a head that wasn't included before. However, these should not be used as monthly slots, there are enough characters that haven't been made to fill the monthly slots. But if Mattel was to consider the idea of changing up the re-release (i.e. filmation style) that would be awesome!

It would also be nice to see Vipra added in some way to the MOTUC line.

[maltesefalcon]

zagraz keeper of the comets is one im hoping for why because he is the only person apart from the main cast to appear in the first episode (yes i know diamond ray was made first) and there are many interesting episodes but the cosmic comet for all its faults was the introduction to he-man and zagraz is a character that i always remember

is it the fact i thought he didnt age and was wearing a false beard to look wiser? is it the fact his voice is like a person on laughing gas sucking helium? who can say

all i know is i collect more for the story's and while there are characters such as shadow weaver, madam razz (with broom), blue hordak among othersthat have high prioritys zagraz Should be included in motuc as a nod to the start of one of the greatest cartoons of the 80's! (plus it would give us an alternate buck for robed wizard characters!)

[eurorko]

I also think Vipra belongs in Motuc. I'd like to see her in the Snake-men faction since they don't have any female warriors in their ranks. It's odd that we didn't even see one snake woman in the 200X series.

If they got the license to Filmation they could make alot of characters from Bravestar and Blackstar and make them in the same style as Motuc. Their Matty Collector website could really expand into alot of different properties. It would be well worth the investment.

It still amazes me that Shadow Weaver, Scorpia, Madam Razz and Broom never got toys. I remember them being in almost every episode. As a kid when I went to the toy section I always would look to see if I could find them. Why Mattel why did you not make these characters in the 80's? Weaver and Scorpia could have easily been made for the Masters line if they weren't to girly for the Princess of Power line. I mean even Loo-Kee got a figure.

[PaulPjas]

I never get this particular argument. Do people really think that all collectors are also customizers?

I'm the same, I have seen some AMAZING custom creations on this site and others but I'm seriously not a customizer myself in any way shape or form, it's just not something i can do or for that matter would have any time for! So i'd be happy forthem to release these things bigtime!

[eurorko]

This is a question for Toyguru (not sure if he still visits the org). We know that you would like to do Filmation characters, but is Mattel even interested in them? I don't like false hope answers. If they are not then it would be cool for us fans to know rather than speculate.

[Super He-Man]

He's mentioned plenty of times that he knows there's fan interest and they'd do them if they could.
The speculation, which Toyguru would never confirm since it's a business decision, is that Toyguru's trying to convince the higher-ups that they'd get more than a couple of useful characters if they bought the Filmation library.

[Penny Dreadful]

Marlena and Cringer are both available as non-Filmation, but I'd love to see them "lean" toward the Filmation style.

I'd definitely love to see:

Strongarm
Icer
Fangman
Lizard Man
Shadow Weaver
Granamyr
Scorpia
Imp
Skeletor's robot knight drones
Shokoti
Plundor
Granita
Dree-Elle and Uncle Montork 2-pack
Star Child
Dark Dream
King Miro
Malaktha
Stanlan and Hollywag
Octavia
Chef Allen
Vultak
Dylamug
Batros
Kittrina
Game Master
Masque
Celice
Kothos
Admiral Scurvy
Sea Hawk
Professor Smallen
Madam Razz & Broom
Widget 3-pack
Twigget 3-pack
Eternian Peasants
King Tamusk
General Tataran
Negator and the Nerbs
Huntara
The Enchantress
Stoyteller
Filmation-style Clawful

Vehicle - The Collector! I can't believe they never made a toy of that one.

~Penny~

[Lewd_Squirrel]

Shadow Weaver /w/ Syrax
Scorpia /w/ Imp
Madam Razz /w/ Broom
Fang-Man
Strongarm
Lizard-Man 1
Lizard-Man 2
Kittrina
Icer
Catra in cat form
Skeletor's Hovering Robot Knights {2-pack}
Dylamug
Batros
Vultak
Plundor
the other Trollans

[bcrduke]

At this point, for it to be worth it, Mattel would almost have to make a new line, done exactly like MOTUC, but with it's own budget, etc.

"Filmation Classics"

He-Man
She-Ra
Skeletor
Hordak
Shadow Weaver
Scorpia
Imp
Octavia
Inspector Darknee
Horde Prime
Hunga the Harpy
Sea Hawk
Madame Razz & Broom
Dree-Elle
Uncle Montork
Lizard Man
Strong Arm
Fang Man
Icer
Lord Masque
Shokoti
Melaktha
Darkdream
Filmation Randor
Filmation Evil-Lyn
Malek
The Enchantress
Kothos
Garth
Vultak
Batros
Teela'Na
Kuduk Ungol
Hawk
Delora
Astronaut Marlena
Admiral Scurvy
Sorrowful
Majestra
Celice
Marzo's lackey
Plundor
the bird lady from Pundor's episode
Zilora
Starchild
Granita
Kittrina
the games master guy

[PrinceAdam101]

Actually, I figured there would be more on the list than that. They could always start the Filmation characters nearer the end of the planned releases, but that would mean a really long wait for some terrific characters.

[chuc98]

Masque, Scorpia, the other Trollans, Shokoti, Granita and Skeletor's Hover Robots.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

I'd like to see some Widgets and Twiggets get made!