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    Zodac/Zodak .. ?

    o.k. ... o.k. ... this thread will probably get pulled, but ... can someone please tell me what is the difference between Zodac and Zodak? ...

    so I get the fact that they are both Cosmic Enforcers, but are the 'Cosmic Enforecers' like an army or warriors? ... if so, then I totally get it ...

    if not - then i'm lost ...
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    A lot of people seem to think me them as MOTU's equivalent of the Green Lantern Corps.

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    Okay the basics (which is all I really know)

    1) Zodac is white...Zodak is black

    2) Zodac is a more distant cosmic enforcer (neutral) whereas Zodak is a more hands on type in the battle of good versus evil.

    3) Zodac spends most of his time in space whereas Zodak is based on Eternia.

    4) Zodac is a creation from the vintage line whereas Zodak is s MYP concoction.

    Other than that I don't know much about the two. But I do believe the Cosmic Enforcers are like the Green Lanterns as DreamTripper stated.
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    ZODAC was the original. ZODAK was his apprentice before he joined the Overlords of Trolla.

    Besides, Zodac is Cosmic Enforcer while Zodak is Mystic Enforcer. Not really sure what the differences are but I'm guessing being a "mystic" enforcer has you tied in with Eternia only, while being a "cosmic" enforcer is more universal.
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    I think those posts sum it up pretty well. "C" is a Cosmic Enforcer, "K" is a Mystic Enforcer. "C" in the original line, "K" in the 200x series.

    Oh, the one question I had was, is "C" the one that King Hsss ate? (in the cartoon) Or was that someone else entirely? I know it was "K"s brother but was "C" his brother in the 200x series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HordeFan View Post
    I think those posts sum it up pretty well. "C" is a Cosmic Enforcer, "K" is a Mystic Enforcer. "C" in the original line, "K" in the 200x series.

    Oh, the one question I had was, is "C" the one that King Hsss ate? (in the cartoon) Or was that someone else entirely? I know it was "K"s brother but was "C" his brother in the 200x series?
    I am not 100% sure but I highly doubt it. Zodac was neutral and the only way to be truly neutral is to have no connections at all. No friends, no family, no lovers and no possessions. So, Zodac couldn't be Zodak's brother unless it was meant as a euphomism to refer to being brothers in arms. As both were Cosmic Enforcers perhaps that's why Zodak may have referred to Zodac as his "brother".
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    His brother was 'Zeelahr'.

    Zodac didn't exist as a separate entity because Zodak was the same character re-imagined. MOTUC has done a great job of making them 2 different characters, by making Zodac his mentor.

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    My reply: Zodac is a character created by Mattel as an action figure. He was supposed to be one of the original three villains serving Skeletor. Filmation turned Zodac into a good guy in the cartoons: a member of the Cosmic Enforcers who chose Adam as the bearer of the Power of Grayskull. He was never portrayed as a bad or neutral guy in the cartoon. Some comics represented Zodac as neutral to make up for the fact that the toy was evil and the cartoon character was good. Zodac was re-invented as Zodak for the 2002 MYP cartoon. Since the 4H drastically changed Zodak's appearance when they re-invented him it was decided to issue both an original Zodac resembling the original action figure and a 2002 version. In order to fit the two characters in the new MOTU Classics continuity Zodak is being considered to be the pupil of Zodac.
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    I've given this some thought.

    I'm ok with what Mattel has done to differentiate between Zodac and Zodak, but I think something else should've been done.

    I think Zodak should have been made an evil warrior. He should have been a former cosmic enforcer who turned evil and was kicked out only to join forces with Skeletor.

    I think the names should've been changed a little, too.

    Like maybe Zodac and Zodek?

    I understand they can use the same name with different spellings, but what if the original Zodac ever returns from Trolla and meets up with his pupil, Zodak?

    Can you imagine? That would be confusing.

    He-Man would be like... "Hi, Zodac. Welcome back. You remember Zodak."

    Or maybe picture Man-At-Arms trying to give battle instructions...

    "Fisto, go with Zodac. Zodak, you go with Teela."

    See what I mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Bong View Post
    I think the names should've been changed a little, too.

    Like maybe Zodac and Zodek?

    I understand they can use the same name with different spellings, but what if the original Zodac ever returns from Trolla and meets up with his pupil, Zodak?

    Can you imagine? That would be confusing.

    He-Man would be like... "Hi, Zodac. Welcome back. You remember Zodak."
    I imagine that's why they gave him a real name, "Kar-Tor".

    I don't think many people would have been too happy if Zodak had been made an evil warrior!

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    Zodak's real name should've been Lodar, which was what the name was changed to in one of the minicomics when the writer found out there was already an existing character called Zodak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel View Post
    4) Zodac is a creation from the vintage line whereas Zodak is s MYP concoction.
    tmc1984, something else you'll probably want to know is MYP refers to the 200X cartoon show from Mike Young Productions. They had influence on story and concepts for some of the characters incarnations from the 200X line, and are sometimes used interchangeably with "200X." For example, the Four Horsemen created a very alien-looking version of Zodac for the 200X line. This was, for whatever reason, scrapped and the African-themed Zodak replaced him. I am not sure how much of his design was created by the Horsemen and how much by MYP, but I think the back story of Zodak wanting revenge for King Hsss killing his brother Zeelar was all MYP's invention (and sort of ruined the whole neutral thing). MOTUC so far is kind of combining it all, which is great, so maybe some day we'll get that gray-alien looking version of Zodac too (with a different name I hope, as "Zodaq" or "Zodack" would be really pushing it).

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    Am I the only one dissapointed that we didn't get a new head sculpt for zodak. Am I wrong in think he had a bald black head with tribal markings or was that the brother who got eaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vid.tracey View Post
    Am I the only one dissapointed that we didn't get a new head sculpt for zodak. Am I wrong in think he had a bald black head with tribal markings or was that the brother who got eaten.
    Zodac and Zeelahr both had bald heads, and tribal markings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiplash77 View Post
    I imagine that's why they gave him a real name, "Kar-Tor".

    I don't think many people would have been too happy if Zodak had been made an evil warrior!
    I still find the irony of Zodak's real name Kar-Tor, because in MYP he was voice by Chistopher Judge who also played in a live action show called Stargate SG-1 where he played a Jaffa Warrior Named Teal'c and worked with a Major Samantha "Carter".

    As for Zeelahr the MYP/200X canon still applies because Matty said they where going to use some story element from the never produced season 3(i.e. Faker's Bio). So the 2nd Zodak still has a brother (Zeelahr) who was eaten be King Hiss. Also a great name for the Alien "Zodac/k" I think would be, and this has been said on the sight before, is Zodax. Also people hope we will find more cosmic enforcers.

    Known Cosmic Enforcers:
    He-Ro
    ZodaC
    Strobo(for those who don't know he was a guy who appeared in an MOTU magazine comic with a White Zodac Helmeted Head and a Sy-clone body with a big spot light mounted in his chest.)
    Zanthor(see post below By MegaGearMax)
    Wun-dar(?)

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    ZodaK
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    ZodaX(one can dream)(this icon used because it looks like glowing alien eyes.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Zodak's real name should've been Lodar, which was what the name was changed to in one of the minicomics when the writer found out there was already an existing character called Zodak.
    But then we'd never get a Lodar figure
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    There's also Zanthor from The Golden Disks of Knowledge from Filmation. They can't use him yet, but he's another Cosmic Enforcer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Zodak's real name should've been Lodar, which was what the name was changed to in one of the minicomics when the writer found out there was already an existing character called Zodak.
    Lodar was going to be Zodac in the mini-comic. But when the writer found that Zodac was supposed to be neutral he had to change the name a little and that's how Lodar was born.
    He changed the Z to make it look like an L and he turned the C into an R.

    The story was here at the org.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Bock View Post
    Lodar was going to be Zodac in the mini-comic. But when the writer found that Zodac was supposed to be neutral he had to change the name a little and that's how Lodar was born.
    He changed the Z to make it look like an L and he turned the C into an R.

    The story was here at the org.
    Actually he changed the K into an R by curling the top of the letter around. C to R would be much more difficult. Zodac spelling wasn't completely fixed at the time and often he was referred to as Zodak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Actually he changed the K into an R by curling the top of the letter around. C to R would be much more difficult. Zodac spelling wasn't completely fixed at the time and often he was referred to as Zodak.
    Yeah ,changing the K into an R makes more sense doesn't it?! I read the articule so long ago I forgot about that. Imagine changing the C into an R boy what a nightmare.
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    lol, this thread is becoming nightmare in general, haha. Anyway I'm happy with the 2 Zodack's, I personally wouldn't be interested in any of this other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiplash77 View Post
    His brother was 'Zeelahr'.
    I'd like to see Zeelahr made into an action figure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    tmc1984, something else you'll probably want to know is MYP refers to the 200X cartoon show from Mike Young Productions. They had influence on story and concepts for some of the characters incarnations from the 200X line, and are sometimes used interchangeably with "200X." For example, the Four Horsemen created a very alien-looking version of Zodac for the 200X line. This was, for whatever reason, scrapped and the African-themed Zodak replaced him. I am not sure how much of his design was created by the Horsemen and how much by MYP, but I think the back story of Zodak wanting revenge for King Hsss killing his brother Zeelar was all MYP's invention (and sort of ruined the whole neutral thing). MOTUC so far is kind of combining it all, which is great, so maybe some day we'll get that gray-alien looking version of Zodac too (with a different name I hope, as "Zodaq" or "Zodack" would be really pushing it).
    Thanks for the pick up, GB. I assumed that tmc1984 knew what MYP stood for. My mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Bock View Post
    Lodar was going to be Zodac in the mini-comic. But when the writer found that Zodac was supposed to be neutral he had to change the name a little and that's how Lodar was born.
    He changed the Z to make it look like an L and he turned the C into an R.

    The story was here at the org.
    Yes, I remember that.

    Actually, Lodar was a completely unrelated original character. The writer just named him ZODAK (yes, with a K) without realising that there was already a figure with that name. The comic was about to be printed, so he just modified the text, changing the Z to an L & the K to an R.

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