If they could go back and essentially revist the 80s series but with a more serious tone, I could be down with that.
In the name of the Lloyd!
This seams so strange to me, especially after Peter laird was so focused and maintained such tight creative control in recent years. 60 Million seams like chump change compared to the billions It must have made since 1987. Even with the collapse of the franchise this last couple year, I find it odd to sell. Laird owns it, it isn't like he is loosing money from licensing the TMNT to others...I guess everybody has a price, Kevin Eastman sold his rights to Laird...I just never expected Peter to sell it all. I'd like to think If I was as successful I wouldn't sell my creation but everyone has a price I guess.
The best thing for Nick to do would be to sign a toy deal with Hasbro. Playmates has lost touch with how to make toys.
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As for Laird, on the one hand it seems odd, but on the other hand, maybe he's just ready to move on. He didn't care much for the original cartoon series, so he got to make a version more to his liking with the 2K3-current series, which is now ending. Maybe he's just gotten to a point where, since he was in more control over that recent series, he doesn't feel the need to hold onto so tightly anymore.
I can't see him having a bunch of desire to be super-involved with another complete reboot of the franchise (though I could be wrong). There's only so many ways to retell the same basic story. He's also no spring chicken. He's not super-old, but he is in his 50s. And he's got more than enough money to retire (or at least semi-retire, if he's just not mentally ready to stop working) comfortably.
And Nickelodeon owning it doesn't mean he won't still be involved to some extent with future projects.
Of course, there's probably a certain amount of confliction for Laird, as well, if there is any truth to this:
And that's great, but the comic wasn't the version being directly broadcast into people's homes 5 to 6 days a week. The 80s/90s cartoon incarnation is the single most well known version of the Turtles.
And now with the modern series having come and gone, their best bet is likely to do some kind of updated version of that, including the characters in it (like Rocksteady, Bebop, Krang, etc).
Laird probably realizes this. And if that's the case, then the next incarnation of TMNT would likely end up being something not to his liking anyway. But it's probably necessary for the property to stay in the public eye and continue to be profitable. By the time any newer incarnations start up in 2011/2012 and then run their eventual course to their endings, he'll be a good bit older than he is now, and may not want to then start up ANOTHER reboot of the TMNT, even if it were to be closer to the comic roots.
Maybe this is just the right time for him to sell. At some point the property will have to end up in somebody else's hands.
In the name of the Lloyd!
And the current incarnation has been unraveling the past couple years or so (Fast Forward was pretty bad, and what I saw of Back to the Sewer wasn't a ton better).
I actually abandoned the series when it switched to the OVERUSED and TIRED gimmick of sending the characters to the future. I only returned when I heard about Back to the Sewer. That final incarnation of the series was good, but I did miss the previous character designs. And, sometimes, the final season did do a little too much Tron stuff.
Only thing about the final season was that the "Shredder War" hinted at in the first episode of that season where the TMNT before returning exactly to the present, they leapt ahead a few months into the future where the Utrom, Demon and Cyber Shredders were battling it out with their incarnations of the Foot will NEVER happen on screen now. *sigh* If the creators KNEW they were ending the series that season why in the name of pizza did they tease us with that plot?? Guess we'll never know.
So, I suppose yet another reboot can be tolerated by me. They are going to do it anyway, I just hope it isn't super duper dumbed down for the kid audience.
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From Peter Laird's blog:
One thing that is becoming clear to me is that, right now, I need to really step back from Turtle stuff. I am feeling strongly that I need to distance myself from the TMNT to truly grasp what has happened, and become accustomed to it.
With that in mind, I have to say that it is likely that any new TMNT comics coming from me/Mirage (under the "reserved rights" clause negotiated in the sale) are probably not going to be seen anytime soon. Although I do have the right to publish up to eighteen issues of TMNT comics per year, it is highly unlikely that I will do that right away. In all honesty, the idea of doing ANY new Turtle stuff right now leaves me cold.
I need to get away from it.
During the negotiation, I asked for those "reserved rights" because, on some very basic, gut level, after putting so much of my life into the TMNT property over twenty-five years, I wanted to walk away from it with roughly the same deal with which I walked into it -- the freedom to do some TMNT comics. But I also have the freedom to NOT do them.
I can't guarantee when -- or even if -- Mirage will produce new TMNT comics again. It is most likely that the next TMNT comic thing I work on will be the conclusion of TMNT Volume 4, but at this moment I can't even guarantee when -- or if -- I will do that. It's too soon to make those plans.
I read that too. I suppose I can understand him getting tired of running the TMNT franchise since he has been doing it since the 80's. But, with Nickelodeon owning it now, I can only expect the TMNT to de-volve back into overly friendly kiddy fare where the TMNT carry brutal weapons that are designed to maim opponents yet they are used only as tools to cut pizza.
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I'm happy to hear this news.
Anything that might bring us one step closer to seeing characters like Rocksteady, Bebop and Krang back on the small screen on a regular basis is A-OK in my book. And if they can have Slash return in animated form, I'll be super happy!
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Does playmates own the rights to all the figures/characters like Panda Kahn ,Krangs Android body,storage shell turtles etc?I know some like Usagi are owned by someone else.I hope that we see alot more mutants this time,I got tired of the monster/alien characters.
I think nick will do great things with them.I loved Avatar and it still had somewhat of a grown up feel with plenty of action.The blood bending episode was great!!
I wonder who will get the new toy lincense,I can only imagine a newly sculpted Krang and his Andriod body!!
Here's a trailer for the Nickelodeon show (I hope I posted this in the right thread, since the oldest post was in 2009, not sure if the cartoon has been discussed in another thread I missed):
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