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    Only 3 others share this secret? Not anymore.

    I watched The Search again last night. Zodac knows! and Marlena suspects...so is there anybody else in the series that finds out?
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    There are couple hints and instances. Like they refer to King Randor getting a clue about it, but he disregards it, so I doubt he's in on it.


    - The Sorceress
    - Man-At-Arms
    - Orko
    - Queen Marlena (pretty much knows what his son is capable) The Rainbow Warrior
    - Spirit of Grayskull


    - Attack Trak (witnesses Adam being trapped inside a stone-structure, and He-Man walks out) Journey to Stone City
    - Panthor (witnessed Adam turning, if I recall) No Job Too Small
    - Malik (was close by to witness Adam change) The Witch and the Warrior
    - Sy-Klone was also very close by in an episode, and would have witnessed Adam's change. Beauty and the Beast
    - Moss Man (possibly knows, because the moss, which with he can communicate, was present during transformation) Ancient Mirror of Avathar

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    - Madame Razz
    - Kowl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukka View Post
    - Panthor (witnessed Adam turning, if I recall) No Job Too Small
    Hahaha, really? I must watch that!

    I love Panthor. One of my favourite characters, I don't know why but despite his genuinely sinister appearance, I always get a laugh out of him. He's like Cringers evil idiot cousin.

    Does Panthor react to this at all? Can you remember?
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    There's She-Ra as well!

    and also Loo-Kie

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    I think a princess learned the secret too. I want to say Janice from Morainia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    I think a princess learned the secret too. I want to say Janice from Morainia.
    She mentions to Prince Adam, how she liked that he [when as He-Man] gave the Ice-Spider a run for it's money. It is never mentioned again, and she doesn't say it like it's a big secret. lol.

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    well u have a good i believe 7 different beings that know for sure bout the secret all mentioned the only one u left out which is obvious is granymyr as he knew it to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stampede View Post
    Hahaha, really? I must watch that!

    I love Panthor. One of my favourite characters, I don't know why but despite his genuinely sinister appearance, I always get a laugh out of him. He's like Cringers evil idiot cousin.

    Does Panthor react to this at all? Can you remember?
    evil idiot cousin! thats classic! yeah i thought the same thing!

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    Great minds...etc
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    Only 3 others share this secret

    He-Man says that "only 3 others share this secret" in the Filmation intro...

    There's actually way more than 3. Here's the ones I can think about:

    Orko
    Man-At-Arms
    Sorceress
    Adora
    Light Hope
    Loo-Kee
    Queen Marlena (*possibly)
    Zodac

    ..Does Kowl and Madam Razz know as well? I can't remember.

    If so, then that makes at least 10 others that know Prince Adam is really He-Man!!!!

    Does anyone have any others? I'm forgetting if there's more...

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    Please use the "Search"-feature next time.

    This discussion has been talked in past, which I'm sure you'll enjoy checking out.

    Only 3 others share this secret? Not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpi View Post
    He-Man says that "only 3 others share this secret" in the Filmation intro...

    There's actually way more than 3. Here's the ones I can think about:

    Orko
    Man-At-Arms
    Sorceress
    Adora
    Light Hope
    Loo-Kee
    Queen Marlena (*possibly)
    Zodac

    ..Does Kowl and Madam Razz know as well? I can't remember.

    If so, then that makes at least 10 others that know Prince Adam is really He-Man!!!!

    Does anyone have any others? I'm forgetting if there's more...
    Yes, add Kowl and Madam Razz to the list.
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    Panthor if I remember correctly just missed seeing the transformation.

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    Unlike Battlecat, Panthor cannot speak, so if he knows the secret, he can't tell anyone. In fact, at no point throughout the series is Panthor shown to have any intelligence beyond a wild beast.

    Although Malik was close by in "The Witch and the Warrior," I believe that was an error in production; the same with Princess Janice in "A Trip to Moirainia."

    We are not shown that they see the transformation. At no time do either of the characters say "Oh my! You're He-Man!" instead they merely go about their business as if they had seen nothing at all. This lends strong support to the fact that they did not see the transformation but were merely nearby when it occurred. For all we know, Malik was tying his shoelace in the other room and stepped into frame right after the transformation.
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    My official list would go as this:

    Man-At-Arms
    Sorceress
    Orko
    Adora
    Light Hope
    Kowl
    Madam Razz
    Loo-Kee
    Zodac

    All others I would imagine would be just speculation. (Unless I'm forgetting any). Randor, Marlena, etc. are all just speculative.

    Other characters may have been close by, but we never see the proof that they know the secret. In Orko's Favourite Uncle, even Montork is right beside Adam when he changes to He-Man, but there's no mention of Montork actually seeing it, so it's just an error on the writer's parts with these situations.

    That makes 9. What an upgrade over the original 3, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpi View Post
    All others I would imagine would be just speculation. (Unless I'm forgetting any). Randor, Marlena, etc. are all just speculative.
    Ummm I suggest having Spirit of Grayskull in your official list.
    There is no denying that he wouldn't know the secret.

    I'm with you on King Randor. He pretty much rules himself out.

    Though I feel that Marlena is a lot more than speculative from "The Rainbow Warrior". (in case you haven't seen the episode, I highly recommend it)
    In the episode, she witnesses all her loved ones and friends as prisoners of Skeletor. She gathers she has time to only free one person.
    - She could have freed Man-At-Arms, who would have been able to free anyone from the party, or re-group with soldiers for an rescue.
    - She could have freed Teela, a skillfull warrior to her own right.

    - But instead she frees Adam, and when Adam later in the episode questions it, she points out a mother always known her own son...and what he is capable of

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    Although Malik was close by in "The Witch and the Warrior," I believe that was an error in production; the same with Princess Janice in "A Trip to Moirainia."
    I don't really compare the two. Malik simply standing close by, can be an animation-mistake, but because Princess Janice actually makes a note to Adam how she liked him handling the monster. IMHO maybe that only means, that she saw Adam initially, and then the after-math of monster being taken care of. Nothing about transformation. But she definitely saw something.

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    How about Ram Man from "Quest for He-Man"?
    Orko, Cringer, and Rammy go to another planet to rescue He-man and Cringer gets turned into Battle Cat while they are there. They even end up returning with Cringer as Battlecat-- Ram Man should at least suspect something (or express some concern that Cringer got left behind.)

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    In total fairness, Adora, Light Hope, Kowl, Madam Razz and Loo-Kee weren't even conceived when the Filmation MOTU series began production!
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    at the very least it should have said "only 4 others share this secret"... because they seemed to have forgotten Zodac!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Losgar View Post
    How about Ram Man from "Quest for He-Man"?
    Orko, Cringer, and Rammy go to another planet to rescue He-man and Cringer gets turned into Battle Cat while they are there. They even end up returning with Cringer as Battlecat-- Ram Man should at least suspect something (or express some concern that Cringer got left behind.)
    Ram Man seemed to suspect the secret in "Quest for the Sword"; he remarked that he didn't think he'd ever seen Prince Adam and He-Man together.

    I doubt the Filmation staff thought there'd be much point including Zodac in the intro as one of the others to share the secret, given that he wasn't a major player in the series and only appeared in 3 episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpi View Post
    at the very least it should have said "only 4 others share this secret"... because they seemed to have forgotten Zodac!!
    Or like in She-ra: "Only a few others share this secret. Among them are...".

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    They should have changed it to, "only 9 others share this secret" by season two... and then rolled through the list of names. heh, half the show would have been the intro.

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    lol. they should have dropped the names & just said only a few know my secret or suspect my secret

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    In my opinion, EVERYONE in the show should supect it. Isn't it obvious He-Man and Adam look too much alike to be two different people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowhead Whale View Post
    In my opinion, EVERYONE in the show should supect it. Isn't it obvious He-Man and Adam look too much alike to be two different people?
    Not if some force, saaaay power of Grayskull, prevents them...

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