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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallstar View Post
    Someone should ask about this in the Q & As on the MOTUC forum. Since Mattel owned Western Publishing during this time period, I would assume they have to have some record of it. Plus, it's their brand.
    We have already made contact with Toyguru... he'll let us know what he can dig up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sallah View Post
    We have already made contact with Toyguru... he'll let us know what he can dig up.

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    nice cant wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sallah View Post
    We have already made contact with Toyguru... he'll let us know what he can dig up.

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    Excellent!

    I think Eamon is right, in that there's a good chance this predates the mini-comics or at least DC comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallstar View Post
    Excellent!

    I think Eamon is right, in that there's a good chance this predates the mini-comics or at least DC comics.
    Yep, that's the assumption LFE and I have been pursuing since the start.

    Sallah

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    Man, this is simply an amazing find! I wonder if there's any conceivable way we'll ever see more of this alternate history, if you will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_Convoy View Post
    Man, this is simply an amazing find! I wonder if there's any conceivable way we'll ever see more of this alternate history, if you will?
    Only if the script was also preserved.
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    It just seemed like a grim, almost mature take on the standard MOTU tropes. I found it really interesting... especially since it was apparently heretofore completely unknown. It makes me wonder what other stuff we don't know about is lurking out there...

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    Wouldnt it be interesting if Mattel finds out they do own the rights (or have access to them) and THIS is what a new movie script is based upon in the future ?
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    Wouldn't it be something if Wonder Bread He-Man was supposed to be a tie-in product with this comic and only a few got out before the project was abandoned.
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    This was a great read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallstar View Post
    Wouldn't it be something if Wonder Bread He-Man was supposed to be a tie-in product with this comic and only a few got out before the project was abandoned.
    That would be cool!!
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    This is awesome. I love the artwork.

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    Yeah, it is amazing!
    This is something like MOTU is supposed to be, the characters have some deep, there is romance, revenge, a insane evil skeletor, a little more adult elements and chat and one of the aspects that I like more, the traditional barbarian high-tech, mix!Not to mention that the artwork is great!!
    I really wanna see the rest of the story.

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    LFE & Sallah:

    Any more updates?
    You gents have me on the edge of my seat here!!!

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    I know! I can't take it anymore.

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    JUST stumbled across this thread. HOLY COW is this awesome!!!! I can't wait to hear more news and any info from Toyguru!
    I love it when a plan comes together.

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    We've gotten a few more tidbits... but still waiting on a couple of things we want definitively confirmed before we post anything. There's one person in particular that is proving VERY difficult to track down. LFE and I are going to go over our notes on Monday and see where we are at...

    Sallah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallstar View Post
    It almost seems like a bit of a precursor to what eventually became New Adventures. haha
    I was thinking the exact same thing.

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    My guess is still that this was an early licensed item, created off the preliminary material Mattel had at their disposal to provide the licensee. I'd say it's probably one of the very first licensed published items.

    The Michael Halperin bible we've all seen is the draft from December, 1982.
    Which means it went through a lot of various stages prior to that.
    And who know what info Mattel was sending out prior to that in the early stages of their licensing program.

    It was like that when we first started the comic in 200x. The information we were given was very hodgepodge. If there had been a bigger publishing program for 200x later on, no doubt it would have ironed out better.

    Of course, another theory could be Mattel was just lax on their licensing publishing, given the story variations we've seen to-date in other books and comics for the classic line.
    If this was made in 1984, who knows why it deviates so. The licensing program was in full swing by then.

    This is all just my theory, of course.
    I could be way off.

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    Too bad Adrian Gonzales isn't alive anymore. Would Earl Norem maybe know something about this? I know that he and Adrian were both illustrators on The Sunbird Legacy book that was done through Western Publishing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JVS3 View Post
    If this was made in 1984, who knows why it deviates so. The licensing program was in full swing by then.
    Not sure if you noticed it earlier in the thread, but I read on a site that Whitman Comics (subsidiary of Western Publishing) stopped publishing comics in 1984.

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    Could this be the last project they were making before they ceased? Something that was in production when things came to a halt for publishing?
    That's another possibility (which I'm sure someone already mentioned). That happens quite often in publishing as well. Companies are often working on things when upper management decides to pull the plug on operations as a whole.

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    I reckon this was done before 1984 and predates any mini comic produced.
    I base this purely on Skelertor's fleshy face and Man-at-Arms design.

    Maybe it was a planned graphic to help launch the line?!
    To only then have marketing deciding on mini comic instead that could focus more on the specific character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eamon View Post
    Maybe it was a planned graphic to help launch the line?!
    To only then have marketing deciding on mini comic instead that could focus more on the specific character.
    I still think this book art and story is post-mini-comic production.
    First He-Man figures came out fall of 1982. That means toys went into production spring of 82.
    Which means the latest the first mini-comics would have been produced is VERY early in 1982.

    As pointed out by Emiliano, the design above, which is a very early Skeletor, was used Alcala in the original minis.

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    Agreed, the shin guards are the biggest clue about that.
    The Skeletor in the comic have shin guards much closer to the 8 back card art.

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    I don't remember Alcala ever doing a fleshy faced Skeletor?!

    A toothy green one yes but not the level of flesh we see in this comic here, which is very like that proto figure.

    Why do something that is so far from what was in the minicomics at this stage?
    The boy to man thing is a rather drastic change after both DC and the minicomics had Adam as a man.

    I'll bet both of you a pint, that this predates any minicomic!!
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