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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    This is why I'm not particularly fond of the idea that Teela will automatically inherit her mother's place whether she likes it or not, and out-and-out DISLIKE the idea that she's just a clone.
    Quote Originally Posted by RocketPunch View Post
    That's understandable, but Teela has always been destined to take over as Sorceress, even in canons where she isn't a clone (like the Filmation cartoon).
    Can't you see, it is BECAUSE she is a clone that she will inherit her mother's role. Teela'na was not related to Kodak, and none are direct descendants of Veena. It isn't like the bloodline of Grayskull. Teela will take her proper place once her "mother" dies because she IS her mother...Teela being created mystically answers a lot IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    Well, it depends - the Sorceress' basic attitude is self-sacrificing, and there's a comfusion in her wanting Teela to live her life, and yet refuses to tell her that she's her mother to the point of mindwiping her after Teela went to slightly desperate measures to find out who her mum is.

    If she's so determined Teela shall follow her, but wants her to lead her own life, why does the Sorceress think telling her will ruin her life somehow? Does she think Teela WON'T have the choice she had, maybe?
    I think it is because the Sorceress, by nature of being a mystic oracle, knows how, when, where and why she will die. Teela being a clone, only has an inkling of her "mother's" power, so she doesn't share the burden of knowing the future. The way i see it, the Sorceress is trying to protect Teela from the pain she bares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD FALLEN ELDOR View Post
    Teela'na was not related to Kodak, and none are direct descendants of Veena. It isn't like the bloodline of Grayskull. Teela will take her proper place once her "mother" dies because she IS her mother...Teela being created mystically answers a lot IMO.
    Didn't Ian Richter say that the Sorceress was related to Veena in answer to why Nicole Oliver voiced both characters?

    I'm fine with the Tale of Teela origin though. It's mythic like the birth of Athena in Greek mythology, and I much prefer it to the Fisto one night stand garbage suggested in 200X.
    Quote Originally Posted by LORD FALLEN ELDOR View Post
    I think it is because the Sorceress, by nature of being a mystic oracle, knows how, when, where and why she will die. Teela being a clone, only has an inkling of her "mother's" power, so she doesn't share the burden of knowing the future. The way i see it, the Sorceress is trying to protect Teela from the pain she bares.
    Best theory ever for why Teela can't know the truth while so many others can.

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    The original Sorceress isn't coming for a few years. Maybe the 200X Sorceress will come out first?
    Did Toyguru say that? I don't much care which version comes out first, both are good. But I was so underwhelmed by their choice of which Evil-Lyn to make first, I kind of figure they'll always make the vintage faithful one first even if it's inferior.
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    I really hate the idea of Teela being a clone, to me she will always be a proper daughter to Teelana. I read an unused script idea thats prob on this website somewhere about Teelanas husband and Teelas father getting killed stopping Skeletor from destroying the royal palace not long after teelana became pregnant. That will always be the Teela origin for me!

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    As long as they make a Sorceress in 2010....I wouldn't care which version. I am sure they will make several variants of her down the road. I just want one of them in 2010!!!!! I am sure the first version we get, will be the classics version, just like Evil Lyn.

    Sorceress is a must for 2010, I don't want another MOTU line ending before Sorceress is made. I am sure MOTUC has several years if not a decade to go before the end of the line, but that doesn't mean Mattel needs to wait to release her.

    I am thinking she would be a great character to get in the fall of 2010, maybe even in Decemeber 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD FALLEN ELDOR View Post
    Can't you see, it is BECAUSE she is a clone that she will inherit her mother's role. Teela will take her proper place once her "mother" dies because she IS her mother...Teela being created mystically answers a lot IMO.
    Just because she is a clone of her mother does not mean they are the same person. Teela isn't ruled by her genes, you know.

    I'd much prefer that she be chosen for the same reason all the other Sorceress's were chosen - because she's proven herself worthy to become the Guardian of Grayskull.

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    Odds of Getting a 200X Sorceress

    While there a few 200X characters I would want in the classics line, I admit that I want 200X Sorceress more than most. While I was initially disappointed when they redesigned the Sorceress to have an Egyptian motif, I have come to like the design and think she would look great next to the current Classics Sorceress. With the focus on vintage figures, I wonder whether there is much chance she will be done at this point. Would anyone else want a 200X Sorceress figure? Has Mattel ever said anything about utilizing the egyptian look in the classics line?

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    The odds are better to get a 200x variant sorceress than a filmation Light Hope!
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    a sorceress variant would be cool, but i would be very happy getting veena instead.
    veena should defiantly have her myp/200x colors & look.
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    Before 2015? Not very likely, unless she was slotted for 2013.

    The Blonde Teela (Battleground and Alcala Teela) Thread
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    At this point I think that Veena is more likely, and she probably is a long shot.
    It is spelled "Crita", not "Critta". Misspell her name and Crita will knock the "T" out of you!

    Also...get her into the line!

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    Why is Veena more likely? I always thought she was much more of a minor character.

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    If we see her (maybe a con exclusive?) I just hope she has at least one head with Hssss venom face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeiss View Post
    Why is Veena more likely? I always thought she was much more of a minor character.
    Because she has a similar visual look to the 200X Sorceress but is a different character. Meanwhile the 200X look for the Sorceress is a big difference between how she normally appears and would require some kind of explanation.

    I could be wrong of course, i just think that given the reworking of the roadmap that she has a better chance of being made than a Sorceress variant.
    It is spelled "Crita", not "Critta". Misspell her name and Crita will knock the "T" out of you!

    Also...get her into the line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barezz View Post
    Because she has a similar visual look to the 200X Sorceress but is a different character. Meanwhile the 200X look for the Sorceress is a big difference between how she normally appears and would require some kind of explanation.

    I could be wrong of course, i just think that given the reworking of the roadmap that she has a better chance of being made than a Sorceress variant.
    TG has always said that the magic users (Evil-Lyn, Sorceress and probably Teela now) can change their appearance at will.

    The Blonde Teela (Battleground and Alcala Teela) Thread
    The Cloak and Dagger Evil-Lyn (The Real 200X Evil-Lyn) Thread
    MegaGearMax's 200X/MYP Screen Grabs

    Sagitar • Cloak and Dagger Evil-Lyn • 200X Prince Adam • 200X Sorceress
    Sssqueeze • Angella • Perfuma • Evilseed (MYP)

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    Well, Queen Angella is one of the "major" vintage POP figures which Toyguru has indicated he wants to try and release by the end of 2014.

    IF Mattel invest in tooling the unique torso and wings necessary to make Queen Angella, then I would imagine that they would capitalise on that investment by also making a 200X Sorceress and/or Veena eventually (provided the MOTUC continues into 2014 or longer).

    I hope 200X Sorceress eventually gets made as it is the sole 200X variant/character that I really want to add to my MOTUC collection. But, given the current focus on vintage and Filmation, I don't think we'll see 200X Sorceress until sometime after 2014 at the earliest.

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    I'd rather have a unique 'magic wielder' character like Castaspella!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeiss View Post
    Why is Veena more likely? I always thought she was much more of a minor character.
    Because we already have a sorceress....

    We already have a sorceress varient...

    We've got Teela taking over as Sorceress in the bios...

    Veena is shown in the mini-comics... and is her own character.

    Frankly, I never liked the egyptian version, and I don't like varients... soooo I'd rather see a Veena and call it 'close enough'.

    Though I STILL expect to see a 'teela as sorceress' figure before the lines over....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haephestus View Post
    Well, Queen Angella is one of the "major" vintage POP figures which Toyguru has indicated he wants to try and release by the end of 2014.

    IF Mattel invest in tooling the unique torso and wings necessary to make Queen Angella, then I would imagine that they would capitalise on that investment by also making a 200X Sorceress and/or Veena eventually
    Good point. If an MYP Sorceress variant was already slotted for 2013, the tooling for Queen Angella's wings would already be there for the 2014 release.




    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    We've got Teela taking over as Sorceress in the bios...
    And that's all we need for the difference in appearance. If they released the MYP Sorceress, they could simply refer to her as Sorceress Teela.


    A Sorceress without those hideous drums on the back of her shoulders who can be displayed with her arms in more than one position would be great!
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    As stated, 200X Sorceress can be justified as her changing her look via magic or Teela as Sorceress. I think she would be a perfect choice for either next year's subscription exclusive or the SDCC exclusive.
    Since I jave always viewed Veena as Sorceresa-lite, I would be annoyed to get that character instead of the actual 200X Sorceress.

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    At this point, I wouldn't count on anything outside the remaining Vintage era, unless it comes in 2013 and we don't know about it yet.

    So I wouldn't get your hope up, unless the line resurges, and subs jump for 2014, then if it looks possible for 2015 to happen....
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    I would much rather have Queen Veena.
    Her one animated appearance is epic. We already have the Sorceress as 2 interpretations/colors (3 if you count the Goddess), so Veena is much more needed imho as she is a different "like" character. Plus I think if they made Veena 1st, then we would get the less interesting to some but more sought after by the common collector 200X Sorceress as a variant later using a lot of Veena's tooling, while Veena would seem like a totally new figure if introduced 1st. I think this would be the way to go with this character & the 2 character's similar looks.
    200X Sorceress b4 Veena would probably hurt Veena's potential sales to a non-hardcore collector.
    I think Veena is essential at this point.

    Veena...200X colors... bring it.

    If you want to make a classic colored one for a con exclusive... fine, but not before we get Veena in the proper 200X color scheme.
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    I'd rather have a new character before any variant, so give us Veena, not 200x Sorceress. BTW, I'm not a big fan of the Egyptian motif that 200x Sorceress had. Her outfit and the big pyramid she sat on, it just seemed out of place in an ancient stone castle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northcoast View Post
    i'd rather have a new character before any variant, so give us veena, not 200x sorceress. Btw, i'm not a big fan of the egyptian motif that 200x sorceress had. Her outfit and the big pyramid she sat on, it just seemed out of place in an ancient stone castle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    BTW, I'm not a big fan of the Egyptian motif that 200x Sorceress had. Her outfit and the big pyramid she sat on, it just seemed out of place in an ancient stone castle.
    But you just know that Teela'Na and King Hsss are gonna get all Egyptian-and-$h*t on each other during the Second Ultimate Battle Ground!! #200Xjustification

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    Quote Originally Posted by I, Harbinger View Post
    But you just know that Teela'Na and King Hsss are gonna get all Egyptian-and-$h*t on each other during the Second Ultimate Battle Ground!! #200Xjustification
    I'd prefer they get medieval!
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