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    For me only the vintage version of Adam! Don't like the 200x version!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    They should make him with, uh, a stoneless version of Adora's sword *cough*. In silver, yes.
    That would work aswell.

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    Young Prince Adam = An Orko spell gone wrong

    Young Teela = "a Sorceress can appear as any age"

    Just joking.

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    They could write it as 16 year old Young MYP Prince Adam has the 200X techno sword that Maa built and by time he gets the actual power sword and restores the halves he could be 20 years old and look like a He Man repaint, this could also get us a 200X 16 year old Teela!!

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    I really, really, really want the storyline to be official as saying that the 200X series pre-dated the Filmation episodes, regardless of loopholes.

    A 200X TEELA is perfectly doable-- a new head and accessories! In fact, I want all the 200X variants...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    Young Adam is simply Adam when he first used the Sword of Power. That's consistent with both MYP and Filmation continuities, and many mini comics too. No need to rewrite Adam's age and there's nothing wrong with a "First Use" Adam being made. We wouldn't need a younger Adora though since she was older at the time of her First Use of the Sword of Protection. It's real simple, and I'm looking forward to the younger Adam rather than the repaint of He-Man version. I'm glad they are doing both too.
    Yes, I think that's what they should do. The only problem I see is that He-Man's "Power Vest" from the bio probably would not fit a slimmer and younger Adam - and as the younger Adam would be the one to use it...

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceAdam101 View Post
    A 200X TEELA is perfectly doable-- a new head and accessories!
    Really, to do a 200X/Young Teela right, you'd not only need a new head, "dress" (most notably for the blue-green collar, but with some other detail differences) and accessories - you'd need a whole new, smaller, female body to build her around, the same height/size as a 200X/Young Adam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceAdam101 View Post
    In fact, I want all the 200X variants...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    Young Adam is simply Adam when he first used the Sword of Power. That's consistent with both MYP and Filmation continuities, and many mini comics too. No need to rewrite Adam's age and there's nothing wrong with a "First Use" Adam being made. We wouldn't need a younger Adora though since she was older at the time of her First Use of the Sword of Protection. It's real simple, and I'm looking forward to the younger Adam rather than the repaint of He-Man version. I'm glad they are doing both too.
    Exactly!! I really want the younger Adam too... i hope they make him slimmer than the other figures though, not they end up making both adam's with He-man's buck body. but yes, i also want both, the teen adam & the adult Adam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toymaker View Post
    You've hit the nail on the head there gbabok.

    I think there was an episode in Filmation where Adam had a birthday, and he was 21, so it's concievable there's at least 5 years between the 2 Adams
    Actually, he started out being 18 in the filmation series, & had 2 birthdays, making him 20 by the end of the series. The Christmas special was Adam & Adora's 20th BD. there was another ep in the filmation series where Adam had his 19th BD, but can't remember which ep it was.

    The myp Adam was 16. so there's actually 2 yrs between the 2 adams. i guess he must have hit the gym quite a bit in those 2 years to bulk up. Although his choice of wardrobe suffered a bit imo...

    let's not forget the nA Adam...they might make that version down the road too.
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    adam 200x in motuc maybe FH could use the wonder twin boy's mold

    I definitely want a young adam 200x in motuc style.

    wonder twin boy is smaller than a motuc, he is like the young adam.
    this mold reminds me adam 200x and fh should not make new molds for this figure.

    i ask tg about this and he said:

    We will not be using DCUC body parts in the MOTUC line. Good thought though.
    TG

    but then said that maybe they re-used dcuc molds in motuc.



    what do you think about it?

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    I can totally see that happening.

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    Not likely (IMO, of course), but it would work in a pinch. I do hope we see a younger (200X) Adam in Classics, and I hope that is where we see a Bio on the prince.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toymaker View Post
    I think the line is following a similar storyline to MYP, so Adam would have just been a baby when Keldor became Skeletor.

    Don't know if you meant it like this, but that sounds like Spectacular Spider-Man where Peter and Eddie Brock had known each other for years before getting their powers. I hated that!

    Honestly though, as TG has said, the only official canon for any one fan is what you make it, so if that's the way you want it, then by all means go down that route!
    In Adora`s bio it says she was kidnapped by Skeletor, meaning the transformation had already taken place

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    I swear I read somewhere that TG has said they don’t use molds for different lines. I think it came up when everyone thought Gygor was a Gorilla Grodd re-use. He said there are agreements they have with their licensees. Accessories have been re-used between the DC and MOTU lines like Screech. I don’t think we’ll be seeing DC molds used for MOTU for actual characters.

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    Not only the license agreements, but the steel molds for the DCUC parts might be in a completely different factory than the steel molds for the MOTU parts.

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    Really NOT looking forward to the 200x Adam. My main issue will him will be that there are no other unique characters/variants to display with him within the Classics cannon. Keldor, Kronis, 200x Evil Lynn and Captain Randor work out to come before Adam was born or when he was a baby. Most everyone else comes into play with the older vintage style Adam we are getting with Orko. So I'd like this to be one 200x variant that doesn't show up anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmyth View Post
    Really NOT looking forward to the 200x Adam. My main issue will him will be that there are no other unique characters/variants to display with him within the Classics cannon. Keldor, Kronis, 200x Evil Lynn and Captain Randor work out to come before Adam was born or when he was a baby. Most everyone else comes into play with the older vintage style Adam we are getting with Orko. So I'd like this to be one 200x variant that doesn't show up anytime soon.
    Depends...200X Adam, Adora and Teela is probably more of a preference type thing more than anything.

    • If you want Adam or Adora looking different than He-Man and She-Ra, then 200X Adam is the Adam of your choice. Likewise, if they make an Adora from a young Teela buck.

    • If you like Adam, Adora and Teela as 16 year olds like in MYP. Then they can replace the older Classic versions.

    The Blonde Teela (Battleground and Alcala Teela) Thread
    The Cloak and Dagger Evil-Lyn (The Real 200X Evil-Lyn) Thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodach View Post
    Not only the license agreements, but the steel molds for the DCUC parts might be in a completely different factory than the steel molds for the MOTU parts.
    They reused the Zoar mold for the Wonder Twins and Beast Boy falcons, so parts sharing between the two lines is possible.

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    I seriously think that 200X Adam will not be made. Even if they use a DC Universe Classic body. They are NOT in scale and look so off when next to a MOTUC. The Prince Adam figure that was released with Orko is just fine. Besides, The 200X Adam is the same Adam in MOTUC. This falls into the same category that Mattel places the 200X look of He-Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Latveria View Post
    I'd prefer that they not even try to explain it as 'young adam' vs 'old adam' in the MOTUC bio and canon. Instead I'd rather they just give them identical bios
    Exactly. Mattel has been convoluting the mythology of MotU by trying so hard to explain every variant in the MotUC bio's. Just make him and call him Adam, no explanation needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketPunch View Post
    They reused the Zoar mold for the Wonder Twins and Beast Boy falcons, so parts sharing between the two lines is possible.
    I think that was an early exception. DC cracked down on Mattel for doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelous0ne View Post
    I seriously think that 200X Adam will not be made. Even if they use a DC Universe Classic body. They are NOT in scale and look so off when next to a MOTUC. The Prince Adam figure that was released with Orko is just fine. Besides, The 200X Adam is the same Adam in MOTUC. This falls into the same category that Mattel places the 200X look of He-Man.
    They did say repeatedly that they are open to making 200X versions of characters who were vastly different from their 200X versions. 200X Adam is one of those characters, Evil-Lyn, Randor and the Sorceress are others. It's a great way to refresh characters as bonus figures. You don't think all those quarterly slots until 2016 are all going to be He-Man/Skeletor variants are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Latveria View Post
    As I recall, Filmation MOTU started when Adam was 18 years old (at least that is what was said in the series bible) whereas MYP began when he was 16 (I have no idea where that is from but I see it quoted a lot so I assume it is true).

    I find it hard to imagine that he'd manage to grow multiple inches as well as put on something like 100 pounds of muscle in just a couple years. I'd prefer that they not even try to explain it as 'young adam' vs 'old adam' in the MOTUC bio and canon. Instead I'd rather they just give them identical bios (which don't need to mention their size and muscle mass) and then the fans can decide for themselves whichever version they prefer to be canon, or create their own personal canons that utilize both small and large body variants.
    Or a Young Adam bio is simply just more history on the character. A 200X Adam bio would probably mention how carefree and ignorant he was before the Mystic Wall was broken. It'll probably also mention the Sorceress summoning him to Grayskull and taking the Techno Sword out of a box.
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    The Blonde Teela (Battleground and Alcala Teela) Thread
    The Cloak and Dagger Evil-Lyn (The Real 200X Evil-Lyn) Thread
    MegaGearMax's 200X/MYP Screen Grabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketPunch View Post
    They reused the Zoar mold for the Wonder Twins and Beast Boy falcons, so parts sharing between the two lines is possible.
    I think the difference is that they used something sculpted for MOTUC for DCUC. However, the way their contract is written, they can't use stuff from DCUC for other lines. Apparently, DC Comics maintains some sort of portion of ownership or control over the parts made for DCUC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Depends...200X Adam, Adora and Teela is probably more of a preference type thing more than anything.

    • If you want Adam or Adora looking different than He-Man and She-Ra, then 200X Adam is the Adam of your choice. Likewise, if they make an Adora from a young Teela buck.

    • If you like Adam, Adora and Teela as 16 year olds like in MYP. Then they can replace the older Classic versions.
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I think that was an early exception. DC cracked down on Mattel for doing so.
    Really? Where was this stated? (not that I'm doubting you or anything )

    They did say repeatedly that they are open to making 200X versions of characters who were vastly different from their 200X versions. 200X Adam is one of those characters, Evil-Lyn, Randor and the Sorceress are others. It's a great way to refresh characters as bonus figures. You don't think all those quarterly slots until 2016 are all going to be He-Man/Skeletor variants are you?
    Excellent point.

    Or a Young Adam bio is simply just more history on the character. A 200X Adam bio would probably mention how carefree and ignorant he was before the Mystic Wall was broken. It'll probably also mention the Sorceress summoning him to Grayskull and taking the Techno Sword out of a box.
    Hmm, this is a great angle. I'm also hoping that they include a "closed", smaller version of the 200X sword, as well as a bracket on his back to harness it. That's one of the many things that I'm disappointed with latest version of Adam.
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    I don't think he will be made.

    Which makes me sad. Because albeit I grew up with the vintage toys, the cartoon and the comics, the 200X Adam has totally overwritten the vintage one for me. I will never consider that overmuscled dude in the pornstar haircut with the pink tights the "real" Adam again! Oh well, I'll just hide the one I got with Orko away and pretend it doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I think that was an early exception. DC cracked down on Mattel for doing so.



    They did say repeatedly that they are open to making 200X versions of characters who were vastly different from their 200X versions. 200X Adam is one of those characters, Evil-Lyn, Randor and the Sorceress are others. It's a great way to refresh characters as bonus figures. You don't think all those quarterly slots until 2016 are all going to be He-Man/Skeletor variants are you?



    Or a Young Adam bio is simply just more history on the character. A 200X Adam bio would probably mention how carefree and ignorant he was before the Mystic Wall was broken. It'll probably also mention the Sorceress summoning him to Grayskull and taking the Techno Sword out of a box.
    Also there is the so called "Quest" that Adam had to go through to get the 2 halves. They need to elaborate on that and the "young" Adam is THE character to use in order to flesh out that angle through a bio.

    According to TG, Adam did not transfrom into He-Man with the Techno sword. He could "borrow" some of the power by harmonizing with the orb. He wasn't fighting evil, but on a secret quest... That's all w eknow and that's why a Young Adam is needed. (aside from the obvious things mentioned in previous posts.)

    Though I'm starting to think that They'll just do him with a standard buck maybe using Hordak's flat Abs and Bow's pants. Maybe He-Ro's Gauntlets with Hordak's gloved hands to make the "200X" gloves without Anime Hyper Detail. New Jacket and the techno sword in Magenta. (in "closed" mode if we're lucky. Hopefully it will be grey and green instead of Magenta.)
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