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    What IS that Thing? (Discussions about unknown MOTU and POP items)

    Hello, and welcome to what I'm gona try to pass off as a discussion thread. Through the years I’m sure you’ve noticed many tiny details on MotU figures new and old. Now, with the MotUC line, we are able to see some of those details either enhanced or brought out in ways that make you look at them and say: “Just what IS that thing?” more so then ever! Some you can probably name off right here and now!

    That’s only part of the point for this thread however. I would like to get some nice clear pics in here of the parts in question, but what I’m looking for is this: Lets take a look at those crazy details and either find an explanation in the mythos OR come on in and explain what you’ve always thought it was! Heck, if you’ve never noticed it before, then make up what you think it is on the spot! Even if the detail has a full official explanation, why not give your thoughts on what you use it for?

    Now I want to start this off with a few real good ones from just one guy: Man-At-Arms.



    The arm laser!



    The armor with the breather thingy with 1.) Some sorta comm system and 2.) possibly buttons to start the breather?

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    And the inside of his mask for reference to the breathing unit.

    Some of these things are new, for instance, the arm laser was on some old concept art (but not on the original figure, to my knowledge), and MAA is clearly shooting lasers from his arms in the opening to the Filmation toon. What is it, or what do you use it for?

    Next, the details on MAA's armor are classic to the core. They've mostly been brought out from the original (though I lost that years ago so we gotta use the .org for reference) and there are many little things on there to figure out. The big part, though, is the breathing unit. Would a half mask be useful? Maybe there are other parts that make it air tight that we don't see?

    I'm probably one of the people here with the least amount of real information, so I'll let this thread fill up a bit before adding my own ideas. Like I said though, lets see what we have! Solid offical info? Cool! Made up stuff? Also cool! Find any way you can to answer any questions about any odd details on any of the MotUC figures in: What IS that Thing?
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    I agree with your observations of Man-At-Arms. I'm wondering if Teela got the wrist laser also?
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    wow OP, you are really into your toys. i never overanalyze their designs like that!

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    Well, I've always wondered what the goat like figure is or refers to in Teela & Evil Lyn's outfits.

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    Hey cool thread!
    I like it when the little details actually have a reason for being there as opposed to simply for aesthetics. And the arm guard laser was often used in the Filmation toon, was it not?
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    This is actually a great idea for a thread.

    MAA certainly does have quite a few great and interesting tidbits on his armor. The breathing apparatus could be similar to the armor of stormtroopers (albeit not even quite as functional) as they can withstand the pressures of space for a time in simply their normal gear. (I'm not saying that Duncan could do the same, but that his armor can work as tactical breathing gear in harsh circumstances. I would venture thatif it covered his eyes better, he would be able to go up against Stinkor without any problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutro View Post
    Hey cool thread!
    I like it when the little details actually have a reason for being there as opposed to simply for aesthetics. And the arm guard laser was often used in the Filmation toon, was it not?
    It was in the intro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexx View Post
    The arm laser!
    If it is a tool, perhaps it has changeable "bits", like a drill?

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    The armor with the breather thingy with 1.) Some sorta comm system and 2.) possibly buttons to start the breather?
    The breather could also be used to release gases - not just breathable air - to give MAA an edge - either to reduce pain from injury, or send him into a fighting-frenzy.

    Or perhaps MAA doesn't know how this stuff works (I don't like his Filmation genius-inventor guise) but just wears it because it is good strong armour from Ancient times- a prestige thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternian Poet View Post
    If it is a tool, perhaps it has changeable "bits", like a drill?



    The breather could also be used to release gases - not just breathable air - to give MAA an edge - either to reduce pain from injury, or send him into a fighting-frenzy.

    Or perhaps MAA doesn't know how this stuff works (I don't like his Filmation genius-inventor guise) but just wears it because it is good strong armour from Ancient times- a prestige thing?
    Very good ideas! He does have more little tool bits on the back of his armor, now, so heck, the arm peice could be a multi-tool!

    Also, very nice thinking for the breather! I was hoping people would really cut loose with that. Never thought of gases 'n such. Who knows, the armor could have built-in medical gases (futuristic stuff) to help repair your everyday futuristic-past warrior! As you said, though, MAA might not even know about it and is wearing the armor for simply it's protective properties.
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    Cool thread! I always figured Man-at-Arms breather unit formed a force-field bubble over his head when activated.

    As for Beastman...I always figured those things on his hand were some sort of retractable brass knuckles. They actually look like miniature punch daggers used in martial arts.

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    Beast Spike "Claw Things":
    What if those are dipped in some sort of natural anesthetic/drug to subdue certain beasts? (maybe to help BM control some of the more wild beasts?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexx View Post
    Hello, and welcome to what I'm gona try to pass off as a discussion thread. Through the years I’m sure you’ve noticed many tiny details on MotU figures new and old. Now, with the MotUC line, we are able to see some of those details either enhanced or brought out in ways that make you look at them and say: “Just what IS that thing?” more so then ever! Some you can probably name off right here and now!

    That’s only part of the point for this thread however. I would like to get some nice clear pics in here of the parts in question, but what I’m looking for is this: Lets take a look at those crazy details and either find an explanation in the mythos OR come on in and explain what you’ve always thought it was! Heck, if you’ve never noticed it before, then make up what you think it is on the spot! Even if the detail has a full official explanation, why not give your thoughts on what you use it for?

    Now I want to start this off with a few real good ones from just one guy: Man-At-Arms.



    The arm laser!



    The armor with the breather thingy with 1.) Some sorta comm system and 2.) possibly buttons to start the breather?



    And the inside of his mask for reference to the breathing unit.

    Some of these things are new, for instance, the arm laser was on some old concept art (but not on the original figure, to my knowledge), and MAA is clearly shooting lasers from his arms in the opening to the Filmation toon. What is it, or what do you use it for?

    Next, the details on MAA's armor are classic to the core. They've mostly been brought out from the original (though I lost that years ago so we gotta use the .org for reference) and there are many little things on there to figure out. The big part, though, is the breathing unit. Would a half mask be useful? Maybe there are other parts that make it air tight that we don't see?

    I'm probably one of the people here with the least amount of real information, so I'll let this thread fill up a bit before adding my own ideas. Like I said though, lets see what we have! Solid offical info? Cool! Made up stuff? Also cool! Find any way you can to answer any questions about any odd details on any of the MotUC figures in: What IS that Thing?
    I don`t know if anyone else has noticed over the years but the original Man at Arms figures had the arm cannon all along. It may niot be so obvious that it`s a cannon but it`s there. Take a look at your vintage MAA and tell me it`s not there. There was no seperate ring that goes to the wrist as see on on the 8 back and the Classics fig, but it`s there, so this is nothing new it was just very exagerated in 200X.
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    The possibilities for MAA helm also work for Zodac.

    If his back-pack is some sort of plug-in for his flying chair (so he can control it by thought through his nervous-system/spinal column), you'd think his helmet would include tech allowing him to navigate, communicate and perceive in space - hence the stuff around his ears and eyes.

    His goggles might lend different types of vision (night-vision, infra-red, etc.) and protect from bright light.

    His "ears" could also be part comm-link/antenna that could send/receive signals using weird science (something quantum to beat the light-speed barrier) or magical (who knows how magic can augment tech.?)

    Of course, this would make his helmet better than Tri-Klops visor, which has always had more "show-time" and focus than any of Zodac's tech... Then again, he is a powerful being, with little known about him. Perhaps he is linked to some sort of distant computer (library), or perhaps the design intentionally imitates the look of alien beings (to honour or imitate them) who he is in cohoots with?

    As for the "bullet belt" (or backpack), perhaps these are actually vials (or storage vessel) in which he collects samples/data so he can return to his Dias/Throne thingy, do some crypto-scientific analysis and pass judgement.... (after all, he is a Cosmic Enforcer, so who/what law is he enforcing and how does he do it?)

    (Personally, i love Zodac in all his glorious ambiguity & think he looks totally cool, regardless of what his fancy tech might do.)
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    Very cool thread - I've definitely enjoyed reading through all of the posts.

    I don't have a lot to add at this point, but I will say that MAA used his arm laser as a weapon in the original dc comics mini-series if I am remembering correctly. I may have to try and dig them out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam03 View Post
    I don`t know if anyone else has noticed over the years but the original Man at Arms figures had the arm cannon all along. It may niot be so obvious that it`s a cannon but it`s there. Take a look at your vintage MAA and tell me it`s not there. There was no seperate ring that goes to the wrist as see on on the 8 back and the Classics fig, but it`s there, so this is nothing new it was just very exagerated in 200X.

    Eh...I'm not seeing it. I suppose you could move the armor down over his hand and imagine that the cuff shoots, but I wouldn't have assumed that the armor was a cannon back in the day.
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    If any of MAAs armour includes extras (comm. links, buttons, weapons) that could get hit (because they are on/part of the armour) we might assume that these features are concealable (like the arm-cannon) - thus they would "hide" by retracting into the armour to avoid damages.

    MAA - as we see him - is "showing off" all of his armour's features...?

    Can same the same for other characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternian Poet View Post
    If any of MAAs armour includes extras (comm. links, buttons, weapons) that could get hit (because they are on/part of the armour) we might assume that these features are concealable (like the arm-cannon) - thus they would "hide" by retracting into the armour to avoid damages.

    MAA - as we see him - is "showing off" all of his armour's features...?

    Can same the same for other characters.
    Well, we can assume that, yes! It makes sense to have hidden features, but I'm going off of the fact that he's got a tank smack in the middle of his chest. I have to assume that's important, and if that wasn't easily hidden in the back, then I imagine he (or the original creators of the armor) didn't go through too much trouble to hide the rest of the stuff, either.

    Granted, when I was a kid, I imagined all sorts of stuff that could pop out of any sort of space that looked like it might house something! I know my Iron Man figures had all kinds of imaginary junk that could pop out of the armor (and multiple beams and weapons that shot out of the same places...)

    New Stuff (I was the last poster, so I had to delete and repost to get new stuff on here):

    So, next on the chopping block:



    Trap-Jaw's gun! Now, of course, many of our topics so far are covering things that are odd or just tiny details that don't have a clear purpose. This is a gun, plain and simple. However, since this thread not only talks about cannon stuff, but, what you thought it was when you were little: What do you think his gun does (or always thought that it did)?

    I'll start: It's obvious that it has the standard "laser gun" flair to it. Rings around the long, thin barrel, little doodad under the barrel that looks like a lightining rod, scope, etc. The sides now have texture as well, and look like vents! Otherwise, the main unit is just a box.

    I think, back in the day, I used it as an all purpose "blaster." Ya know; it shot "energy" (which means: whatever wasn't bullets). Now it really ramps up the laser idea. The thin barrel and hole at the end make it so that you don't think any big blasts will be coming out of that (unlike the 200X gun). A laser just seems kinda...boring, though. I guess it doesn't have to be a high powered laser, but usually any sort of laser that is going to be doing damage is a cutting laser, and that's way too powerful to make things interesting (I mean, if Trap-Jaw could waltz on to the battlefield and cut everyone apart with a laser, then where's the fight?)

    Granted, it could be a "heat ray" or whatever that means. Just a heated blast and maybe has an explosive ending to make things more flashy. On the other hand, there's the little doodad under the barrel...maybe it's an EMP gun of some sort? It'll certainly be uncomfortable to be shot with (though not fatal if he only gets ya once) and he has the possibility of shutting down machinery.

    Finally, I want to take a look at the scope: somehow, I don't see him holding that close to his eye. To me, it seems like a targeting sensor that the gun alone uses. However, if anyone has any ideas that goes beyond it just being a scope, I'd like to hear it!

    Heck, I wana hear whatever you got! So come on in: the rules are the same. If you ever had ideas for what these obscure little details were, then give us what you got. The other items earlier in the thread are, of course, still open for debate!
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    As far as Trap-Jaws gun we used to pretend that it was like a Stormtroopers gun. It could fire a normal laser blast or a stun blast. Also we used some of the Micronaut Alien’s weapons with him too.
    The Knobs on Zodac’s helmet could be various controls used for everything from breathing (seals the helmet), also vision control or even a language decoder so he can understand all known races.
    I know this is not MOUTC but we used to pretend that Jitsu’s hand held throwing stars in the wrist part.
    We also used to pretend the “GEM” in Skeletor’s armor could shoot energy beams.

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    Ok since the box of the gun looks like a kind of transformer or condensor it has to bee a energy weapon. Maybe a electric blast weapon and the little Ball at the underside is a deflector. Obove the gun could be a laser pointer.
    In my imagination its a very primitive weapon that needs to load up a second before you can fire. The ray explosively shoots and is not very precise, so the laser pointer is a little useless and its better that Trap Jaw supports it with his other hand. After a few shoots the gun needs to cool down, so Trap Jaw has to use his other Weapons instead.

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    what a great thread Alexx

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    And, we're back! On the menu today: Buzz-Off's classic wings!





    Now that Buzz-Off is based on the original again, we've got his crazy old bionic wings! I didn't think about it when they made the 200X version. Made sense to increase the bug qualities, and honestly, I don't disagree with it. However, I still loved the robo-wings back in the day, and I really like seeing them come back. That raises questions about Buzz-Off, though.

    What IS Buzz-Off? He's obviously a bug man...sorta. The original was just in scale with the rest of the guys, and the rest of the guys were big and muscular. That doesn't change the fact that he's got robotic wings, though! Obviously this guy either needs robo-wings to help him since he's not born with any, or for some reason his natural wings are damaged and need the cybernetics to work. OR...maybe his race used to fly and all that, but whatever happened in the past kinda ruined thier abilities, making them all big and muscular so that they all need the cybernetics to get them back in the air again.

    As always, I'm just throwing stuff out there. So, whatdoya think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexx View Post
    What IS Buzz-Off? He's obviously a bug man...sorta. The original was just in scale with the rest of the guys, and the rest of the guys were big and muscular. That doesn't change the fact that he's got robotic wings, though! Obviously this guy either needs robo-wings to help him since he's not born with any, or for some reason his natural wings are damaged and need the cybernetics to work. OR...maybe his race used to fly and all that, but whatever happened in the past kinda ruined thier abilities, making them all big and muscular so that they all need the cybernetics to get them back in the air again.

    As always, I'm just throwing stuff out there. So, whatdoya think?


    I think they are naturally bionic...

    I think it might be a result of the Horde's Techno Virus. The techno virus seems to have been a devastating thing for Eternia... it may have affected evolution. We know that the Arachnids and the Andreenids are related... the techno virus may have helped and encouraged the Andreenid mutated genes.

    It's just a fun way to work with what Mattel is using in the bios

    So, I think in this case, the cyber-netic aspect is bio-cyber-netic... after all, human hearts run on electricity... we're machines in a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexx View Post
    And, we're back! On the menu today: Buzz-Off's classic wings!

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...00/buzznew.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...00/buzzold.jpg

    Now that Buzz-Off is based on the original again, we've got his crazy old bionic wings! I didn't think about it when they made the 200X version. Made sense to increase the bug qualities, and honestly, I don't disagree with it. However, I still loved the robo-wings back in the day, and I really like seeing them come back. That raises questions about Buzz-Off, though.

    What IS Buzz-Off? He's obviously a bug man...sorta. The original was just in scale with the rest of the guys, and the rest of the guys were big and muscular. That doesn't change the fact that he's got robotic wings, though! Obviously this guy either needs robo-wings to help him since he's not born with any, or for some reason his natural wings are damaged and need the cybernetics to work. OR...maybe his race used to fly and all that, but whatever happened in the past kinda ruined thier abilities, making them all big and muscular so that they all need the cybernetics to get them back in the air again.

    As always, I'm just throwing stuff out there. So, whatdoya think?
    I always loved the transparent quality of Buzz-Off's wings...this got me thinking. Maybe the wings are actually made of energy! The circuits and such are the framework, but the actual wings are an energy construct, which "buzz" and crackle with power. Hence the name Buzz-Off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeletortilla View Post
    I always loved the transparent quality of Buzz-Off's wings...this got me thinking. Maybe the wings are actually made of energy! The circuits and such are the framework, but the actual wings are an energy construct, which "buzz" and crackle with power. Hence the name Buzz-Off.
    Interesting! So, the circuits could retract into the body. When they come out, like you said, they create the framework and the energy wings form between them. Very cool!
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