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    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    I realize that theoretically anyone could be re-issued, but from the business standpoint of Mattel, do you really think they'll re-issue The Goddess or Zodak?
    Am i missing something here? Is there something special about Zodak & goddess that automatically disqualify them from being re-issued?

    to my eyes, they're the same as every other figure in the line. IMO Zodak is light years ahead of Zodac, which in my mind makes him the version that most casual or non fans would rather have, based on appearance alone. And Goddess is one character that fans have been asking for, for YEARS....years.....

    so.... why wouldn't they re-issue every figure at some point (exclusives aside)? GG & Zodak both sold out in less than a couple weeks, right? didn't they say they wanted their figures to at least last that long before sell-out? I'd call them both a success then.... and certainly worthy of being re-issued at some point.
    How long has their Ghostbusters Winston figure been around? has he even sold out yet? what about the other toylines on Matty? How well are they selling? Point is, every motuc figure has sold out very quickly... which indicates to me, either they are high in demand & everyone's buying them up.... or they're simply not making enough and giving the illusion that the line is a smashing succes with every figure selling out in mere days or even hours.

    It makes no difference to me, since i have every figure; but if i had missed out on them for some reason I guess I'd be heading to ebay & not even worry about whether or not they'll reissue so & so.

    so, yes... i'd consider any & every figure except exclusives to be fair game for reissue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multibot View Post
    Am i missing something here? Is there something special about Zodak & goddess that automatically disqualify them from being re-issued?

    to my eyes, they're the same as every other figure in the line.
    Well nothing against them, I love the "new" characters to the line. It's just that they were available for two weeks before they sold out, so the feeling is they had enough time to satisfy their demand. If the demand increases in a year or two for those characters again, I guess they will probably get rereleased. I think we know we're all just guessing, and there's no need to rush to defend any character's honor. Not expecting a reissue doesn't (always) mean lack of love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multibot View Post
    Am i missing something here? Is there something special about Zodak & goddess that automatically disqualify them from being re-issued?

    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    Well nothing against them, I love the "new" characters to the line. It's just that they were available for two weeks before they sold out, so the feeling is they had enough time to satisfy their demand. If the demand increases in a year or two for those characters again, I guess they will probably get rereleased. I think we know we're all just guessing, and there's no need to rush to defend any character's honor. Not expecting a reissue doesn't (always) mean lack of love.
    Multibot, I agree with gbagok, I'm not saying anything about the quality or importance to the line of GG or Zodak. I suppose I'm looking at this from more of Mattel's business standpoint and guessing that they'd re-issue other figures before them. And as this line goes on and we keep adding figures (who may be more in demand than GG or Zodak), the increasing number of figures will push them back further in Matty's priority for re-issues.

    And I'm in no way saying that I don't want them re-issued. Heck, Zodak is the only figure I don't have (of course not including the impossible-to-get Spirit of Grayskull), so I'd love for him to be re-issued! I just think realistically that they would be the least likely figures to be re-issued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    Multibot, I agree with gbagok, I'm not saying anything about the quality or importance to the line of GG or Zodak. I suppose I'm looking at this from more of Mattel's business standpoint and guessing that they'd re-issue other figures before them. And as this line goes on and we keep adding figures (who may be more in demand than GG or Zodak), the increasing number of figures will push them back further in Matty's priority for re-issues.

    And I'm in no way saying that I don't want them re-issued. Heck, Zodak is the only figure I don't have (of course not including the impossible-to-get Spirit of Grayskull), so I'd love for him to be re-issued! I just think realistically that they would be the least likely figures to be re-issued.
    To add to this, I too love Zodak and would LOVE for him to be re-issued, but I swear that I read a comment from Toyguru either on the .Org or on the FB page that they wouldn't be re-issuing him. I would then think that comment would apply to GG as well. I may be wrong, but I thought I saw that comment from TG.

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    I hope in Hordak, with a new, MORE EXTENSIVE armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugno di Tuono View Post
    I hope in Hordak, with a new, MORE EXTENSIVE armor.
    I too hope that they re-issue Hordak. They wouldn't re-issue him, though, with any changes. TG has already said that re-issues are just another run of the exact same figure as the original release (just including "The Original" burst on the packaging.) The only changes they've made to re-issues were to correct production errors like the reversed shoulders on original He-Man, the red around the eyes, and the open hand on Skeletor.

    Otherwise, Beast Man, MAA, and Stratos will all be identical to their original release. So a re-issued Hordak would be the exact same. The only way we'd get a change to Hordak is if they make a Bonus figure variant of Hordak (which I'm sure will happen someday).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    The only way we'd get a change to Hordak is if they make a Bonus figure variant of Hordak (which I'm sure will happen someday).
    I would be fine as optional by isere in the packaging of any other character

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    I think Green Goddess has a decent chance at reissue. GG had more issues than any MOTUC figure before or since.. I think it's possible that the largest percentage of buyers of a GG figure would be those loose collectors who want a corrected version. So yeah, I would say a Green Goddess could be released again succesfully. Especially if TG says that all the loose and bobblehead errors have been fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarKrash View Post
    I think Green Goddess has a decent chance at reissue. GG had more issues than any MOTUC figure before or since.. I think it's possible that the largest percentage of buyers of a GG figure would be those loose collectors who want a corrected version. So yeah, I would say a Green Goddess could be released again succesfully. Especially if TG says that all the loose and bobblehead errors have been fixed.
    I hope so, I'm just skeptical. I'm an optimistic pessimist, or a pessimistic optimist based on her "poor" sales performance (*sarcasm inserted thickly*).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    Well nothing against them, I love the "new" characters to the line. It's just that they were available for two weeks before they sold out, so the feeling is they had enough time to satisfy their demand. If the demand increases in a year or two for those characters again, I guess they will probably get rereleased. I think we know we're all just guessing, and there's no need to rush to defend any character's honor. Not expecting a reissue doesn't (always) mean lack of love.
    I see.... i guess I was I was under the impression that Mattel wanted each figure to be avalible for at least two weeks.... but I see what you mean... those two were & apparently must have satisfied demand. Either that or you may be right & they weren't popular enough to sell out in record time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donimo View Post
    To add to this, I too love Zodak and would LOVE for him to be re-issued, but I swear that I read a comment from Toyguru either on the .Org or on the FB page that they wouldn't be re-issuing him. I would then think that comment would apply to GG as well. I may be wrong, but I thought I saw that comment from TG.
    That'd be a travesty if Zodak never got rereleased.... to me he looks awesome, and aside from the tatoos & added detail he looks more like a Filmation Zodac imo than the webbed feet & clawed Zodac. i'd love to see him rereleased with an unmasked head so the figure matches his bio illustration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    Multibot, I agree with gbagok, I'm not saying anything about the quality or importance to the line of GG or Zodak. I suppose I'm looking at this from more of Mattel's business standpoint and guessing that they'd re-issue other figures before them. And as this line goes on and we keep adding figures (who may be more in demand than GG or Zodak), the increasing number of figures will push them back further in Matty's priority for re-issues.

    And I'm in no way saying that I don't want them re-issued. Heck, Zodak is the only figure I don't have (of course not including the impossible-to-get Spirit of Grayskull), so I'd love for him to be re-issued! I just think realistically that they would be the least likely figures to be re-issued.
    yeah, you're right. the ones that sold out in mere hours should get released before the ones that hung around for a couple weeks. i won't dispute that.... i do hope every figure does get released at some point though. It'd be rather sad if any of them never got to make a comeback. They're all great figures imo.


    one thing though... how come some fans think Randor won't get rereleased? did he take a long time to sell out? I'd think he'd be a must have for anyone's collection being he's the king (hail to the king baby) and the father of our main man, He-man.... but maybe they won't redo randor but instead do a 200x version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarKrash View Post
    I think Green Goddess has a decent chance at reissue. GG had more issues than any MOTUC figure before or since.. I think it's possible that the largest percentage of buyers of a GG figure would be those loose collectors who want a corrected version. So yeah, I would say a Green Goddess could be released again succesfully. Especially if TG says that all the loose and bobblehead errors have been fixed.
    I actually doubt this. I know at one point Matty/Toyguru stated that Zodak most likely won't be reissued, and Green Goddess didn't sell any better or faster than Zodak.

    And while it would be nice for her to be reissued given the technical problems that existed with her, I doubt that they will go through the trouble of reissuing her just to appease the handful of people who had these issues and want to buy another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multibot View Post
    one thing though... how come some fans think Randor won't get rereleased? did he take a long time to sell out? I'd think he'd be a must have for anyone's collection being he's the king (hail to the king baby) and the father of our main man, He-man.... but maybe they won't redo randor but instead do a 200x version?
    Again, I just think Randor will be lower on the re-issue priority list than some figures like Tri-Klops, Hordak, or Faker. I thought I heard a lot of complaints about his paint job (mine seems fine), so that might be all the more reason to re-issue him with corrected paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    As I've been saying on the 'BA Faker' thread, there is a distinct difference between a re-issue and a bonus figure. I'm positive Matty is well aware of the demand and popularity of a re-issued Faker. Re-issues are intended to be the exact same figure as was originally released (with the exception of "The Original" burst), just another run of them. BA Faker, as a variant of an A-level character, would be a bonus figure. Since we know from last month that we had:
    1. Adora = regular monthly figure
    2. BA He-Man = bonus figure
    3. Beast Man = re-issue

    then theoretically we could get both a re-issue Faker and a Bonus figure BA Faker in the same month (they're not mutually exclusive of one another). Of course that wouldn't make the most business sense to Matty to release both in the same month, but a re-issue of Faker is almost a guarantee. BA Faker is also a possibility, but it's not one or the other - they're different things.
    Another release of Faker = re-issue.
    BA Faker = Bonus figure.
    My point is They have never said if exclusives or bonus figures would be re-released.
    I said I think if they were to issue another Faker it would probably be BA Faker as the original was an exclusive. If not why bother getting exclusives or making them at all if they arn't exclusive. saying this they have said they would be re-releaseing King Greyskull with a redeco what if the redeco is a BA King Greyskull that would cement the BA Faker release we won't know untill mattel says something

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmthor View Post
    My point is They have never said if exclusives or bonus figures would be re-released.
    I said I think if they were to issue another Faker it would probably be BA Faker as the original was an exclusive. If not why bother getting exclusives or making them at all if they arn't exclusive. saying this they have said they would be re-releaseing King Greyskull with a redeco what if the redeco is a BA King Greyskull that would cement the BA Faker release we won't know untill mattel says something
    good points.... but the fact is, that this entire toyline is one big exclusive. i do see what you mean though... but Faker was originally intended to be exclusive but merman got delayed so Faker took his monthly slot... so maybe Faker does have a chance to get reissued. Alot of people still want him, so who knows what they'll do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    Again, I just think Randor will be lower on the re-issue priority list than some figures like Tri-Klops, Hordak, or Faker. I thought I heard a lot of complaints about his paint job (mine seems fine), so that might be all the more reason to re-issue him with corrected paint.
    True... plus Randor just came out in Dec. so it'd be a while before he gets reissued I'm guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmthor View Post
    My point is They have never said if exclusives or bonus figures would be re-released.
    I said I think if they were to issue another Faker it would probably be BA Faker as the original was an exclusive. If not why bother getting exclusives or making them at all if they arn't exclusive. saying this they have said they would be re-releaseing King Greyskull with a redeco what if the redeco is a BA King Greyskull that would cement the BA Faker release we won't know untill mattel says something
    Faker was a NYCC exclusive, but also was last February's monthly figure due to Mer-Man's delay. So if he was a monthly figure (in addition to the NYCC exclusive) I really, really think and hope that he'll be re-issued.

    And true. We just won't know until the Mattel gods bless us with their infinite MOTUC wisdom...
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    I think all characters have a chance of reissue. If the demand is there then the toys will sell out. Even reserve figures that Mattel takes to conventions sell out as quickly as the exclusives. It's a direct win. I think that's unique about MOTUC compared to other properties like Barbie at Mattel. Sure the old girl is one their flagship products but I've seen tons of them at bargain close out stores where the original buyer lost money and had to sell the inventory. MOTUC being direct to the consumer is not a property that will plague Mattel with possible order cancellation from a mass market standpoint. Whatever their production quantity is, they seem to have a guaranteed paycheck from these figures. These figures are made for a minute fraction of what Mattel sells them to us for, so they are laughing all the way to the bank, and will reissue potentially all of the figures if it will make them money. Toyguru may say certain toys might not be positioned for reissue but if enough fans are pounding on the gate and waving twenties at Mattel, they'll reissue it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Despondos View Post
    We just won't know until the Mattel gods bless us with their infinite MOTUC wisdom...
    second funniest thing I've read today....
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    Faker can and SHOULD be rereleased with "The Original" on the packaging because he was a regular monthly release that they said fans would be able to get and many of weren't able. The stickers are all that's needed to take care of the exclusive. BA Faker as a replacement for Faker is even worse than just creating a new variant.

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