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    Quote Originally Posted by gatchagrey View Post
    i think of it more like a cabinet...
    you got skelly as the pres. and evil lynn as vice pres...
    the others are all there to provide different special skills...for advisement and application...
    This is probably the best way of looking at it. All these characters have a common goal, and recognize Skeletor as the one person with the best chance of pulling it off. For their various reasons, they joined his cause, and do his bidding while offering their expertise where and when it's needed.

    The only hierarchy that would exist is between those characters that are naturally subservient. For instance, Mer-Man is master of the oceans... so it makes sense that he might have dominion over Spikor and Clawful, while Stinkor and Panthor might defer to Beastman.

    The only exceptions, in my collection anyway, are Webstor (Who skulks about Snake Mountain, but doesn't "serve" Skeletor), Scare Glow (following the MVC Comic, he's indebted to Skeletor, but doesn't share his agenda).

    Others, like Trap Jaw and Two-Badd crossed or failed Skeletor, were sufficiently punished, and serve him for fear that he'll do worse next time.

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    In my mind, it works this way:

    Skeletor
    Evil Lyn
    MerMan, Tri-Klops, TrapJaw, BeastMan
    Two-Bad, Webstor
    Everybody else.

    In my MOTU, Kobra Khan is strictly a Snake Man, ala 200X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Sword View Post
    Leader - Skeletor
    2nd in Command - Evil-Lyn
    Leader's right hand man - Beastman
    Senior - Merman, Tri-Clops, Trap Jaw
    Everybody else.
    I agree with this hierarchy. For the Evil Horde it would be:

    Leader - Hordak
    2nd in Command - Shadow Weaver
    Kiss Ass/Pet - Imp
    Right Hand Man - Grizzlor
    Senior - Leech, Mantenna, Catra
    Everybody else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Higher up in Skeletor's affections maybe, but then we have to decide what we're actually meaning when we're discussing heirarchy within the evil warriors. Obama's cat might be loyal to him and more treasured in his affections than say, Joe Biden. He might even chide the VP if he steps on his tail. That doesn't mean that Obama's cat is going to be next in line in the presidential heirarchy if anything happens to him. The cat has no power at all and no ability to lead. Neither does Panthor.
    Excellent point, but a housecat couldn't rip you to shreds. Besides, I'm pretty sure Obama doesn't have a cat, he has a dog named Bo. Now if Bo was an archer and had a little moustache... But yeah I guess you should count Panthor out as a 'goes-without-saying' ally of Skeletor. I guess he's could be accounted as a bit of an accessory, toy-wise, though I still like to think of him as a character. This is great stuff, though. Let's keep it going.

    And I knew I forgot somebody-Two bad is up there with Mer-Man, since at least half of him has some brains and the other half has brawn. But yeah, I can see how everyone's an equal soldier under Skeletor since he uses them all for his own means with no regard to their standing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DO4M View Post
    Skeletor does not have affections for his warriors. If their capture/death would be needed for him to succeed he'd trade them in a heartbeat. Having Panthor very high in that scale is another way for Skeletor to abuse his power. (maybe causing mutiny across his ranks.)

    Caligula wanted to make his horse a consul IIRC. So the idea of a "Pet" being a higher up isn't that farfetched. Heck I read recently about a cat called for Jury Duty.
    http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO133130/
    (true that it's a big mix-up, but still the cat has to do his duty.)
    Just because he doesn't talk like Battle Cat doesn't mean that Panthor lacks the skills.
    I think you're being too pedantic about the word "affections" now. If A says that B is higher up in his affections than C, it doesn't necessarily mean A has any affections for C. It's saying that on a scale of like and dislike, C comes higher up than B. So if B is at zero affections on the scale, and C is at 5, C is still higher up on A's affections than B, and the sentence still makes sense.

    And Skeletor may not have affections for his evil warriors but he would realize the strategic value and skills that they bring to the table. He would use them just for practical purposes without holding them in any regard, which is why Evil Lyn would be next in line.
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    i know a lot of people don't like it but the Masters of the Universe movie (which I love) showed Skeletor at his best and most powerful. That's the way Skeletor should act in new any new media. He was the absolute ruler of Snake Mountain and its forces.

    It did however show his lieutenants (Evil-Lyn and Karg). People forget that to be a threat Skeletor isn't trying to take over all of Eternia with seven or eight thugs. He's got to have an army.

    Same as with the good guys. He-Man, Man-At-Arms and the rest of the Masters can't do it on their own. There has to be a larger force for both sides.
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    In my line of thinking the hierarchy works out this way:

    Skeletor-Leader
    Evil-Lyn-General
    Tri-Klops-Colonel
    Trap-Jaw-Major
    Mer-man and Beast-man-Lieutenants

    Everyone else are cadets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    I think you're being too pedantic about the word "affections" now. If A says that B is higher up in his affections than C, it doesn't necessarily mean A has any affections for C. It's saying that on a scale of like and dislike, C comes higher up than B. So if B is at zero affections on the scale, and C is at 5, C is still higher up on A's affections than B, and the sentence still makes sense.

    And Skeletor may not have affections for his evil warriors but he would realize the strategic value and skills that they bring to the table. He would use them just for practical purposes without holding them in any regard, which is why Evil Lyn would be next in line.
    Yes, he does recognize the potential of his warriors, but Beastman, trap Jaw, etc. are basically the glorified thugs, while Triklops and EL are the higher ranks. Panthor's the Housecat that can kill you or me if Skelly wants to. I just placed them above the thugs, because it's demoralizing being less worthy than the housecat or Corporate Mascot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Panthor is like Skeletor's cat though. If Obama has a cat who stays close to him all the time, that cat is not next in line for the presidency before the vice president.
    Would that it were true! I'd vote for the cat. Tax Rebates on Friskies!

    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Higher up in Skeletor's affections maybe, but then we have to decide what we're actually meaning when we're discussing heirarchy within the evil warriors. Obama's cat might be loyal to him and more treasured in his affections than say, Joe Biden. He might even chide the VP if he steps on his tail. That doesn't mean that Obama's cat is going to be next in line in the presidential heirarchy if anything happens to him. The cat has no power at all and no ability to lead. Neither does Panthor.
    Or anyone in Washington, for that matter! Ba-Dum-Bump! (In my own worthless opinion.)

    On topic, with all joking aside, here's how I see it:

    -Skeletor rules the roost

    -Evil-Lyn holds an unofficial post as his second, which, due to her former romantic entanglements with Keldor, no one sees fit to question (And she could likely wipe the floor with most anyone)

    -Skeletor has a Go-To group of Evil Warriors including his Henchman Numero Uno Beast Man, Tri-Klops, Trap Jaw, and Mer-Man (who usually swims off to his oceans when not needed)

    -We have a second tier of regulars next who likely also live in Snake Mountain. This group includes the likes of Whiplash, Stinkor, Clawful, Faker (when activated, I like to think of him just laying around, powered down in Tri-Klops' and Trap-Jaw's shop), Two-Badd, Webstor, , Saurod, Blade, and Spikor

    -Next come the specialists, who include characters like Scareglow, Ninjor, Jitsu, Blast Attack...

    -Panthor and Screeech are pets. Mean, nasty, viscious pets, but pets nevertheless. Their loyalty is to Skeletor (and Evil Lyn additionally in Lyn's case, perhaps), but they'd just as soon eat most of the others.

    Of course, taht's just me. All great thoughts from everyone, and this is a fun topic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanLegend View Post
    I think Panthor could be considered second-in command since he above all others has Skeletor's back. As in - there's not one of Skelly's crew who haven't tried to betray him or wouldn't if they could get away with it. Panthor's pretty loyal to Skeletor, and the others fear him. Evil Lyn would be next, being the most powerful. Then Tri-Klops being the technician and all-around badass with a sword. I'd put Trapjaw next because he's usually a part of the main gang causing trouble and besides his versatility and equal afforementioned baddassedness, he is one of the few who really stood against Skeletor, even amassing an army to go against him. That's pretty big to me, he could have made his own separate evil faction had he been a little smarter. Then I guess comes Beast Man, though you could almost say he's second in command since his fear keeps him loyal and he's usually Skeletor's go-to guy, but I'm thinking in terms of power and chain of command. After that I'd have to say Webstor due to the stuff about him being a master mathematician and such, he's probably a lot smarter and doesn't always have to pander to Skeletor's whims, being a free agent and all, plus he's the only one of them smart enought to carry a handgun just in case s*** gets real :P . Then Mer-Man (because he's got his own stuff going on under the sea), then Scareglow since he's kind of a prisoner but still pretty powerful in his own right, then Whiplash, then Clawful, then Spikor, then of course Faker, the mindless robot. And then there's Stinkor. Nobody wants to hang out with that poor sonuvagun... but good point about them being pretty equal once you get past the main few. They're a bit like a chess set up- Skeletor and Evil-Lyn are the King and Queen (being the most powerful), Trapjaw and Tri-Klops are the Knights (being the best warriors), Beastman and Mer-Man are your bishops (having their own kingdoms they can call to aid, either bestial or aquamarine), Whiplash and Clawful are the Rooks of course (being the heavy hitters), and the rest are equal pawns. So what about the rest of the villains? Anyone have the ability and seven minutes of free time to go through all the villains including the horde and snakemen and rank them? I've always thought of it as Hordak > King Hiss > Skeletor > Evil-Lyn > Shadow Weaver > All the rest, but how do you guys think the evil warriors from all factions stack up against each other? The cool thing about this is that you can play with your figures and ultimately decide who would be commanded by who and who would win in a fight .
    I did my take on a Horde Hiearchy in the POP forums. Asked everyone's opinion and most people there were following Filmation as far as chain of command. When i get a sec to lok it up i'll put it here.

    Evil Warriors
    Skeletor and Panthor- Overlord of Evil and Destruction
    Evil-Lyn- 2nd in command Dark Arts Master
    Tri-Klops- Inventor/Swordsman
    Beast Man- Land Commander
    Mer-Man- Underwater Commander
    Webstor- Exit Strategist ( Comes up with how to get out of anywhere)
    Two-Bad- Inventor ( Tuvar that is)
    Spikor- Armorer and Black Smith
    Trap-Jaw- Weapons Specialist ( Think Evil Man-At-Arms)
    Whiplash- Filmation intellegience ( Infantry)
    Clawful- ^ Likewise ( Infantry)
    Jitsu- Swordsman and Infantry
    Stinkor- Battlefield Clearer

    The Horde Hiearchy
    Horde Supreme/Prime
    Hordak
    Shadow Weaver
    The Elite Vanguard- Leech, Mantenna, Grizzlor, Calix
    Shadow Priests/Wraiths
    Force Captains- Catra, Entrapta, Scorpia, Octavia
    Upper Level Horde- Modulok, Vultak, Dylamug, Dragstor, Mosquitor, Batros, Multi-Bot, False Face, Ratlore ( Not to be confused with Rattlor of the SnakeMen, Rather an altered Repton through Horde Science (Mostly Genetic Manipulation) and Shadow Weaver's Shadow Magic, Tongue Lashur ( See Ratlore) these two duplicate the powers of their SnakeMen namesakes perfectly.
    Various Military Personnel- Assorted Generals, Admirals and so forth- Sunder, Romeo, Scurvy, Blast
    Horde Troopers- Slaves from conquered worlds within the Horde Empire subjected to the Techno-Organic Virus created by Modulok and Shadow Weaver. The Techno-Organic Virus strips a person of their will basically creating a clean slate on which to imprint upon thus making Horde brainwashing much more effective and lasting. Also the Virus also augments the beings on a molecular level fusing existing metals within the body with metals from the surrounding area creating a thin metallic shell. This shell is later layered upon in Horde processing plants sealing the beings inside the typical Horde Force Armor. This varies in the process due to mass producing of different Horde Armors for different planet conditions.
    Also this is how i see the Horde. Others may see it differently.

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    Rattlor- General of the Armies of Hsss
    Tongue Lasher- Chief Torturer and 2nd in command of the Armies of Hsss
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    Squeeezzze- Dunno? Really
    Kobra Kahn- Double Agent for both Skeletor and King Hsss
    Blast-Attack- Suicide Bomber of the army of Hsss
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    Quote Originally Posted by markatisu View Post
    I have always felt Tri-Klops was next due to his technical abilities followed by Mer-Man/Beastman/Trapjaw (middle tier evil warriors more akin to warlords of different domains) and then at the bottom was Whiplash and Clawful

    Other villains like Webstor and Scareglow would fall in between the Trapjaw tier and the Clawful bottom
    Kind of like your idea. I'd rather say:

    Skeletor
    Evil-Lyn and Tri-Klops
    Mer-Man (oceans), Beastman (jungle) and Trapjaw (tecnology)
    Whiplash, Clawful, Webstor, Ninjor...
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    I agree with your point, but not your logic. Michelle Obama is also not Obams's second in command. For that matter, Skeletor was not elected ruler of anything, either, where Obama was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Panthor is like Skeletor's cat though. If Obama has a cat who stays close to him all the time, that cat is not next in line for the presidency before the vice president.
    Here’s my Evil Warrior Hierarchy:

    Skeletor - Ruler of Snake Mountain and the Dark Hemisphere.

    Panthor – Skeletor’s pet. Panthor is a bit of a douche, but no one screws with him because Skeletor loves him. In my mind Panthor may be the only thing besides power that Skeletor loves, which means none one on the Dark Hemisphere dares screw with him and risk Skeletor’s wrath.

    Faker – Faker is essentially the hand of Skeletor. Faker has almost all the power of He-Man, but is unquestionably, almost obsessively loyal to Skeletor. He is second in command to Skeletor, but no one knows this outside of the two of them. He has the power to claim lordship of Snake Mountain and the Dark Hemisphere, and will do so in order to either save his master, or if unable to do so, ensure that his master’s campaign against Randor and He-Man is completed. As far as the other evil warriors know, Faker is Skeletor's bodyguard and one of his generals.

    Evil Lyn – Skeletor’s second in command (excluding the Faker situation) Evil Lyn deals with most of the actual politics in involved in ruling the Dark Hemisphere. This is due her power, skill, and the knowledge of the hierarchy that Keldor set up before being mortally wounded in the battle with Randor and transformed into Skeletor. Keldor loved Evil Lyn deeply and most of the Dark Hemisphere assumes Skeletor does as well, which means that only the bravest of most foolish souls would attempt to openly defy or attack her. Evil Lyn’s behavior is erratic since Keldor’s transformation. Skeletor possesses all the passion to rule Eternia and destroy the House of Randor that Keldor did, and powers Keldor only imagined, and as such is so like the man Keldor was, but is completely incapable of loving another human being. This leads to a constant state of remorse, especially due to her part in Keldor’s transformation. Evil Lyn would like nothing more than to fully restore Keldor’s mind, but with every failed attempt, she grows to hate Skeletor more.

    Tri-Klops – Due to his loyalty to Skeletor, which is unquestionable considering the mind control chip imbedded in his visor hardware, Tri-Klops is the general of the armies of Snake Mountain and third in the line of succession. Tri-Klops takes an increasing role in the politics of the Dark Hemipshere as Evil Lyn becomes more entwined with other matters…Additionally, Tri-Klops is the tech guy for Snake Mountain, though he is not as brilliant at Man-at-Arms.

    Beastman- Beastman is the unofficial chief Henchman of Skeletor. Skeletor knows that Beastman craves power, and would overthrow him in a moment if he could, but he also knows that Beastman is not intelligent or powerful enough to ever succeed, and therefore harmless. He also knows that this same lust for power means that Beastman will not risk Skeletor’s wrath for anything shorto f replacing him and is thusly a motivated and reliable go-to guy. Additionally Beastman is the Warlord of the Vine Jungle region and keeper of Skeletor’s bestiary.

    Mer-Man – Merman is the Warlord of the Sea of Rakash. He is a competent warrior in his own right, and supplies Skeletor with troops when needed. In exchange for this Skeletor lets him rule the sea and it is known that to stack Mer-Man’s court is to attack Snake Mountain itself.

    Trap-Jaw – Skeletor’s weapon’s expert and an assistant to Tri-Klops. Trap Jaw is occasionally allowed to pursue freelance work as well. Kronos was Keldor’s chief Lieutenant, and second only to Evil Lyn in the hierarchy (which explains why he was able to so easily rally the army to oppose Skeletor, due to his knowledge of the different armies in the Dark Hemisphere) After he challenged Skeletor’s rule and was subsequently defeated and left for dead. Tri-Klops rebuilt him as Trap Jaw. Since that moment Trap-Jaw has hated Skeletor and is quietly planning his revenge. He will never be successful however because he is not aware of Tri-Klop’s unyielding loyalty to Skeletor, nor the own limitations that Ti-Klops built into him under Skeletor’ orders. These limitations make Trap Jaw unable to mortally harm Skeletor, and limit his courage and intelligence. Skeletor found the irony of this irresistible, seeing as Trap-Jaw accused him of being less of a man than Keldor.

    Stinkor – Stinkor is the Medical officer in Snake Mountain. Stinkor lacks the lust for battle that most of Skeletor’s warriors have, but he views them as his friends and in a strange way his family. Stinkor is the kind of guy who would have been on the side of the angels except for the fact that Skeletor got to him first.
    Webstor, Clawful, and Whiplash are mostly freelancers. They are Skeletor’s warriors, which grant them great prestige, and in return they will not take on projects that conflict with his interest.

    Kobra Kahn - Skeletor’s spy in the Snake Men.

    Jitsu is also a freelancer, but more driven and competent than the above three. Jitsu ruled over a kingdom near the Dark Hemisphere as a tyrant, and was overthrown by his people with the help of King Randor. Jitsu hopes to prove his worth to Skeletor and then enter into an alliance with him as one os Skeletor’s warlords in order to regain his lost kingdom.

    I haven’t fully developed my ideas for the other evil warrior characters.
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    I think it goes like this.

    Skeletor's first.
    Evil-Lyn's second.
    Beast Man is third but nobody really takes him seriously.
    Clawful and Mer-Man seems to have ranks as well, perhaps thier equals.
    Everyone else follows after that.
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    I see Zodac is being evil so he's 2nd in command outranking Evil Lyn.

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    Skeletor and Evil Lyn as #1 and 2, of course.

    After that, the gang will pretty much dissolve into total anarchy. However, Beast Man would probably be a natural third in command, because of his brute strength and his length of tenure, which is how it works in a lot of situations.

    The 200X Tri Klops would be too nerdish to be an effective leader, whereas the classic Tri Klops seemed less intelligent than Beast Man. Mer Man is to the Evil Warriors what Aquaman was to the Superfriends, so no on him too.

    Once you got down to the fourth in command, I think Eternia's pretty much saved and the Evil Warriors are toast.
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    I have to chime in that Skeletor's group is really a gang and no real hierarchy to speak off. Without him, they would pretty much be at each other's throats. Evil-lynn might be able to take over in Skeletor's absence but she would have a hard time keeping the group in line.

    She would have to be constantly beating them down to get them to do her will. She is powerful, but she doesn't have that intimidating evil fear factor that keeps Skeletor in charge.

    Without Skeletor, the group would fall apart.

    The Horde and Snakemen on the other hand are more organized. The Horde has a military order and they do have a ranking system with Hordak being on top. The Snakemen have a royal hierarchy with King Hiss in charge but a series of generals in command.
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    this is a great thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel View Post
    Ha! Hilarious! It's just too bad that the villains help so many heroes change their careers to gardening by making them push up the daisies and fertilizing the lawn...

    As to the question, there is no chain of command. Skeletor rules as a tyrant and a despot. When he's around no one else gives orders or has a say. Now, when he is absent it's a free-for-all among the rest of the Evil Warriors where the most powerful one gets to lead. So, the real question is who is the most powerful one after Skeletor? I'd say Evil-Lyn and she would rule pretty much like Skeletor with everyone waiting for her to dole out orders.
    I agree with you on this, because if Skeletor found out that anyone acted without him, they will have a price to pay.

    Quote Originally Posted by yodafreakmaster View Post
    I agree with this hierarchy. For the Evil Horde it would be:

    Leader - Hordak
    2nd in Command - Shadow Weaver
    Kiss Ass/Pet - Imp
    Right Hand Man - Grizzlor
    Senior - Leech, Mantenna, Catra
    Everybody else
    I have to say when it comes to the Horde, the only one that gives orders besides Hordak is Imp, after that Catra, as she is Force Captain. Shadow Weaver is more of a counselor to Hordak, I don't remember her giving much orders, unlike Catra.

    Quote Originally Posted by triklops3eyes View Post
    I did my take on a Horde Hiearchy in the POP forums. Asked everyone's opinion and most people there were following Filmation as far as chain of command. When i get a sec to lok it up i'll put it here.

    Evil Warriors
    Skeletor and Panthor- Overlord of Evil and Destruction
    Evil-Lyn- 2nd in command Dark Arts Master
    Tri-Klops- Inventor/Swordsman
    Beast Man- Land Commander
    Mer-Man- Underwater Commander
    Webstor- Exit Strategist ( Comes up with how to get out of anywhere)
    Two-Bad- Inventor ( Tuvar that is)
    Spikor- Armorer and Black Smith
    Trap-Jaw- Weapons Specialist ( Think Evil Man-At-Arms)
    Whiplash- Filmation intellegience ( Infantry)
    Clawful- ^ Likewise ( Infantry)
    Jitsu- Swordsman and Infantry
    Stinkor- Battlefield Clearer

    The Horde Hiearchy
    Horde Supreme/Prime
    Hordak
    Shadow Weaver
    The Elite Vanguard- Leech, Mantenna, Grizzlor, Calix
    Shadow Priests/Wraiths
    Force Captains- Catra, Entrapta, Scorpia, Octavia
    Upper Level Horde- Modulok, Vultak, Dylamug, Dragstor, Mosquitor, Batros, Multi-Bot, False Face, Ratlore ( Not to be confused with Rattlor of the SnakeMen, Rather an altered Repton through Horde Science (Mostly Genetic Manipulation) and Shadow Weaver's Shadow Magic, Tongue Lashur ( See Ratlore) these two duplicate the powers of their SnakeMen namesakes perfectly.
    Various Military Personnel- Assorted Generals, Admirals and so forth- Sunder, Romeo, Scurvy, Blast
    Horde Troopers- Slaves from conquered worlds within the Horde Empire subjected to the Techno-Organic Virus created by Modulok and Shadow Weaver. The Techno-Organic Virus strips a person of their will basically creating a clean slate on which to imprint upon thus making Horde brainwashing much more effective and lasting. Also the Virus also augments the beings on a molecular level fusing existing metals within the body with metals from the surrounding area creating a thin metallic shell. This shell is later layered upon in Horde processing plants sealing the beings inside the typical Horde Force Armor. This varies in the process due to mass producing of different Horde Armors for different planet conditions.
    Also this is how i see the Horde. Others may see it differently.

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    Tongue Lasher- Chief Torturer and 2nd in command of the Armies of Hsss
    Snake Face- Executioner
    Squeeezzze- Dunno? Really
    Kobra Kahn- Double Agent for both Skeletor and King Hsss
    Blast-Attack- Suicide Bomber of the army of Hsss
    I love the way everyone is categorized, but I still have to put Catra higher, as many episodes that I have seen her bossing around Leech, Grizzlor and Mantenna. I think a Force Captain is higher than the Elite Vanguard. But I am not sure if Scorpia is considered a Force Captain or an Elite Vanguard.

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    Skeletor - Leader

    2 Sub-Leaders
    Evil Lyn - Expert in Magic
    Tryklops - Expert in Hi-Tech

    4 Lords that controls certain territories:
    Beast-Man - Forests
    Mer-Man - Seas
    Draego-Man - Skyes
    Whiplash - Underground

    Specifical Tasks
    Spykor - Weapons
    Trap-Jaw - Vehicles
    Two Bad - Skeletorīs Bodyguard

    All the other Evil Masters are used as agents according their powers.
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    This thread really makes me want a Karg figure.
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    Evil Lyn is the number two obviously.

    Then probably Tri-Klops for sheer intelligence and skill.

    I'd put Whiplash at number three.

    Whiplash was highly intelligent, capable, and cunning in Filmation. He went to an alien dimension, set up (or took over) a fortress and had the Kroom army at his disposal. He also manipulated the internal politics and dynamics of the Crimson Counsel (I think that's what it was called). That's no small feat considering how powerful Trollans are supposed to be.

    He also had ambition since he was trying to learn magic in an attempt to become more powerful and useful to Skeletor.

    I'd then put Scareglow at number four. Scareglow never seemed to strike me as an idiot. Plus he has his power and magic.

    After that it doesn't matter.

    I also don't think Beastman really has a rank. He's Skeletor's bodyguard and number one servant. That's his rank.

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    Was'nt Clawful described as Skeletor's "right hand man" in the Filmation cartoon? Maybe this was a play on his large right claw, which he obviously didn't have in the toon though?

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    tyrannical-anarchy

    I see a tyrannical-anarchy (with no mind-controlling spells or tech - these concepts don't make much sense to me)

    Skeletor - the tyrant with unquestioned power. Rules by force & fear (which doesn't stop some from being loyal)

    Most powerful seconds:

    Scareglow (the astral double or "ghost of Skeletor" - an aspect of his being, or perhaps relic of his being from the future)
    Faker (almost equal to He-Man! a creation used with powerful magics Skeletor stole from Castle Greyskull - the dark mirror of He-Man)
    Evil-Lyn

    Then, everyone else:

    Skeletor assigns tasks depending on usefulness, no ranking system - the rest of his allies struggle against each other. However, if unified, they could over-power him. Punishments/banishment/death may be meted out for failure.
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    Got to say I love this topic.

    I see the Evil Warriors much like Marvels Hellfire club with an inner circle and an outer circle

    Skeletor being the very middle

    Inner circle wound be Evil Lyn. Beastman, Tri-Klops, Trapjaw & Merman

    Middle Circle would basically be everyone else from Faker to Fangman

    Outer circle - Skeleton Warriors, Skelcons, Mutant Warriors & Robot Droids.

    The Cool thing about Skeletors Evil Warriors (which need a logo) they all have a purpose or attributes.

    Evil-Lyn - Magics
    Beast-Man - Control of all beasts (except dragons)
    Mer-Man - Control of all sea creatures
    Tri-Klops - Technology and Swordsman
    Trap-Jaw - As Kronis a powerful warrior who could rally armies (i see him at the bottom of the inner circle as Trapjaw)
    Faker - Warrior & Muscle (possible spy duties, until rubbled)
    Whiplash - Warrior & knowledge of Sub-Eternia
    Clawful - Warrior, turned general and access to other crabs guys
    Webstor - more of a lone wolf but always on hand & exit strategist
    Two-Bad (Tuvar & Baddrah) - warrior(s) & trained bounty hunters
    Stinkor - Warrior & Master of Stink
    Jitsu - Martial Arts & Horseman
    Spikor - Blacksmith and Weapons Maker
    Ninjor - Martial Arts
    Scare Glow - Master of Fear
    Icer - Agent of the North (Eternias Arctic regions)
    Fang Man - Warrior and control of lesser dragons ie dragonsaurs and others
    Strongarm - Warrior & Powerhouse
    Blade -Warrior, Master swordman & Bounty hunter
    Draego-Man - Master of Fire
    Goat Man - Subordinate to Beast Man/Snake Mountain Jailer

    I left out Panthor & Screeech as they're pets. I also left out Saurod because i think he fits in better with the Space Mutants and Blast-Attack as I see him as the Snakemens android trooper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbomb23 View Post
    Was'nt Clawful described as Skeletor's "right hand man" in the Filmation cartoon? Maybe this was a play on his large right claw, which he obviously didn't have in the toon though?
    Yes, that was in "Castle of Heroes" when Skeletor was bragging to Monteeg about Clawful; his right hand man. Filmation Clawful was usually shown to be a VIP. In "Dree Elle's Return" Clawful orders Trap Jaw around for the entire episode. And in "Things That Go Bump in the Night" Skeletor even refers to the hover robots as if they belong to Clawful. Filmation Clawful was also ambitious and confident enough to want to overthrow Skeletor and rule in his place.

    All of this must have made a big impression on me as a kid, because I grew up thinking that Clawful was a pretty big deal. I was shocked in 2002 when Clawful was suddenly portrayed as a useless idiot, because it was such a drastic change from the way I always pictured him, and still do. I'm very glad that his MOTUC bio has him leading the Skeleton Warriors.

    In my hierarchy, Evil Lyn & Clawful are constantly competing with each other and secretly competing with Skeletor. Beastman is actually the one closest to Skeletor, with Mer-Man, Trap Jaw and Tri-Klops rounding out the inner circle. After that it would be Whiplash and everyone else.

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