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    Is Shadow Weaver Possible?

    If this image made possible the figure MOTUC of Adora (1),
    then the following thing can make real, among other things to Shadow Weaver.
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    **This is a card game that I have of when i was 8 years old.









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    Is that the image that allowed Mattel to create Adora?
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    It's been said many times Shadow Weaver is not possible by Mattel at this time. Is this art something new that it's possible they've never seen before? If so, that would be interesting.

    Needless to say, looking at this art made me realize, EVEN if she came and was done in this style, she'd have almost no articulation (arms and head only) due to her costume. Not that I would mind, but it never occurred to me before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underling View Post
    Is that the image that allowed Mattel to create Adora?
    Yes it is.

    Those images are from cards made in Argentina. I don't believe the images of Shadow Weaver, Madame Razz and Broom and the Twigetts are in the Styleguide.

    There may be more licensing kits/Styleguides not online, but they are not in this:

    http://www.grayskullmuseum.com/pop/l...ngpopindex.htm

    I would love all the characters if they are possible though!
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    This said to me.Thanks to this image, there was no problem with Filmation.

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    Couple of questions.
    1. Where would you find a set of these cards?
    2.Was there He-man set similar to this one?
    3.Is there an online place to get the larrger images of these same versions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    Yes it is.

    Those images are from cards made in Argentina. I don't believe the images of Shadow Weaver, Madame Razz and Broom and the Twigetts are in the Styleguide.

    There may be more licensing kits/Styleguides not online, but they are not in this:

    http://www.grayskullmuseum.com/pop/l...ngpopindex.htm

    I would love all the characters if they are possible though!
    Well I do love Shadow Weaver, so here's hoping this helps us get her. Based on previous conversations I somehow doubt it. But I'm still keeping my fingers crossed!
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    Hordedestiny:
    1-This set of cards was made and commercialized in Argentina
    2-Lamentably not
    3-I do not know

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    I Have that Argentinian Cards!

    I think the Argentinias mixed images from diferent sources to produce that Card game, because I also have a little book with all the original styleguid art and there is no shadow wever in ther nor maddam razz

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    But Mattel has stated over and over that they do not have the right to Filmation created characters. This includes Shadow Weaver! I'm sure if there was a way for them to get around this without having to get the rights to MOTU & POP Filmation rights. They would have done so. Where's Emiliano? The man with the knowledge of these things?
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    The key is that according to the company that make the cards, Cromy, the card game is of Mattel

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    Looking at all those pictures makes me realize we definitely need a skinnier (less amazon) She-ra figure.

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    The Adora image is taken from the Mattel Licensing guide which Mattel own outright. That card game would have been licensed by Filmation and Mattel in the 80's.

    The difference is ones an official Mattel produced document and the other is one of many licensed consumer products from the 80's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaTrIcKfOgArTy View Post
    Needless to say, looking at this art made me realize, EVEN if she came and was done in this style, she'd have almost no articulation (arms and head only) due to her costume. Not that I would mind, but it never occurred to me before..
    I'd be perfectly fine with a Shadow Weaver without articulation. I just want the figure so bad it's killing me.
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    I think the Shadow Weaver and Madame Razz and Twigget images are from a different source than the Mattel Style Guide. The art style is different for those than the rest of the Style Guide, and Swift Wind is the Filmation version in the Shadow Weaver card, and the colors are completely inconsistent with the colors Swift Wind is depicted in multiple times in the other cards.
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    A quick question while we're on the topic of POP/MOTUC.

    Would they be able to produce a Catra figure with her panther alter ego packaged as an accessory? I'm guessing the cat image is property of Filmation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Prozac View Post
    A quick question while we're on the topic of POP/MOTUC.

    Would they be able to produce a Catra figure with her panther alter ego packaged as an accessory? I'm guessing the cat image is property of Filmation?
    You are correct...unless Mattel has inside documents the public isn't aware of at the moment.

    The can make a black cat though! Catra transformed into that in the mini-comics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Prozac View Post
    Would they be able to produce a Catra figure with her panther alter ego packaged as an accessory?
    Regardless of whether they can do Magicat-Catra or not, there's no chance they'd pack something that size as an accessory. If they were to do it then, like Cringer, it would count as a figure by itself.

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    If they release Catra as a two pack, Human form and cat form, I would snap that up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelous0ne View Post
    But Mattel has stated over and over that they do not have the right to Filmation created characters. This includes Shadow Weaver! I'm sure if there was a way for them to get around this without having to get the rights to MOTU & POP Filmation rights. They would have done so. Where's Emiliano? The man with the knowledge of these things?
    The copyright notice on the Princess of Power playing cards only denotes that the playing cards contain characters that are based on the intellectual property of Mattel. It does not follow from this that Mattel is the rights holder to all of the materials therein.

    Each entity maintains the rights to the intellectual property it brings to the work, i.e. Mattel holds the rights to its characters and trade dress in the playing cards, and FILMation holds the rights to its characters and trade dress in the playing cards.

    The inclusion of Shadow Weaver in the set does not change that FILMation is the author of the character, and not Mattel.

    Aside from negotiating the rights to the character, demonstrative proof of authorship, which would not include licensing guides or licensed products, is the only way the character would be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hordedestiny View Post
    Couple of questions.
    1. Where would you find a set of these cards?
    2.Was there He-man set similar to this one?
    3.Is there an online place to get the larrger images of these same versions?
    1) Argentina as mentioned. Got mine off eBay a while back.

    2) There are 2 sets of He-man MOTU card game like this. Unfortunatley it's lacking in the art department. The artworks that's in the card looks like it was rushly made, but it's nice to have anyways.

    3) No idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    Regardless of whether they can do Magicat-Catra or not, there's no chance they'd pack something that size as an accessory. If they were to do it then, like Cringer, it would count as a figure by itself.
    As a child, I viewed Clawdeen as the feline form of Catra.

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    I believe Shadow Weaver can be made and Mattel has the rights to her.
    This card set only confirms it even more for me!

    My reason behind this is because of the powerpoint presentation shown at Matty's panel at Wizard World Philadelphia in June 2009:

    http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/....php?p=2174017
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    Well, I still hope that we'll get a Shadow Weaver !

    Anyway, I have to congratulate my fellow fans who searched for ALL sources (even the most obscure ones, like this Argentinian card game) that could prove Mattel actually has the rights to make Shadow Weaver...

    About Shadow Weaver articulations : she could be quite articulated ! Emiliano came with a clever design for her that would alllow her to sit down...

    It's not the first time that we get Mattel material containing some Filmation characters... which makes me wonder : is Mattel actually entitled to produce some Filmation figures ?

    I guess we'll have to wait what the future holds to answer that question. Hopefully, Mattel will buy the Filmation rights...

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    We don't know for sure, but it's worth pointing the cards out to Mattel for their information.
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