Can Matty please finish the first few waves???

[mekaneckpain]

I love what they are doing with the line. It's nice to see all the last wave figures like gygor and tytus and even king randor but c'mon... Let's make mekaneck and ram man and all the other ones that came out first!!!

What are they waiting for?

[Blue Monkey]

I think one will come out soon, not sure about both.

[Skeletortilla]

Patience is a virtue.

As Skeletor said back in '87..."Everything comes to he who waits."

[okydoky]

The reason is because they want to extend the fans' interest until 2017. If they produce all the vintage figures first, by wave, the fans that are only interested in the vintage line will stop collecting (like me)...

[Wulff]

We've got a lot of Mekaneck parts in Trapjaw, so Mekaneck will be soon I'm sure, plus along with Merman he completes all the parts needed for Stinkor. (though personally I'd do Stinkor first, then Mekaneck later, so fans don't complain Stinkor has no new parts)

Ram Man as has been mentioned many times needs a ton of new tooling so he is a ways off.

[Fisto's Left Hand]

What I think is odd about it is that they pushed all the wave two bad guys out in the first year and a half, but havn't even touched the good guys. Not even the easy to tackle one when the line started, Mekaneck.

[lorde trooper]

The reason is because they want to extend the fans' interest until 2017. If they produce all the vintage figures first, by wave, the fans that are only interested in the vintage line will stop collecting

Couldnt agree anymore. Bring on Megator

[PrinceAdam101]

I love the way the line is trickling in mixed up from the original waves.

The only thing that scares me is waiting til 2016 to get Queen Marlena, Adam, Cringer, and several others.

What a surprise it is to see the new figure reveals and be totally shocked by what is coming! Count Marzo? Whiplash?? Tytus??? Gy-Gor???? ***!!!

In the first 1.5 years, they HAVE managed to release most of the essential characters, so the line is not totally blended with C and D-list characters.

With the news of the new trademark purchases, it's exciting to think that we might actually get some of those characters. I've never thought much about Sweet Bee. Now I'm hoping like heck they shock us with her coming out before most of the POP's!!!!

[Jean]

I love that they're taking this long to get the first few waves out and that they're shaking things up with the releases. I do wish they had waited over a year though before releasing all of the 8-backs, but I do hope they wait more than 2 years before the 12-backs are completed. As much as it would be nice to see Ram Man or Mekaneck before year 2 is done with, I can wait 2 or 3 more years for them.

[Whiplash7]

I also would like the first few waves finished off sooner rather than later. I hope some of them are on tap for release within the next year.

[Wolfchild]

We've got a lot of Mekaneck parts in Trapjaw, so Mekaneck will be soon I'm sure, plus along with Merman he completes all the parts needed for Stinkor. (though personally I'd do Stinkor first, then Mekaneck later, so fans don't complain Stinkor has no new parts)

Ram Man as has been mentioned many times needs a ton of new tooling so he is a ways off.

What Mekaneck parts in Trap-Jaw? Aren't you thinking Man-E-Faces?

[Larry Waters]

Let's be honest, the lion's share of MOTU Vintage love goes to those magical years of '82-'85. While there were figures from every Wave that I loved, but none of those Waves were as good as the first few.

And I'm not even getting into how I feel about NA and POP, most of you know!

So why, as many people ask, are we getting so few from those great first few Waves?

It's very simple!

Most of the Vintage figures that sucked (keep in mind, that's a subjective term. I'm referring to the figures that are looked on with disdain by all but the most hardcore of MOTU fans), such as the Rock Lords, Meteorbs, Movie figures, Extendar, Dragstor...you know, the figures that were 99.9997% bad gimmick... came out in later waves.

By holding key figure from Vintage Wave 2 and beyond to be peppered throughout the remainder of the line, they keep up enough interest to ensure that Subscriptions don't drop.

The fact is, if all I had to look forward to in a year was Post-Wave 4 figures, POP, NA and the occasional 200x figure, I'd NEVER book a subscription. I'd take my chances w the WSOD and chance things to get the 200x guys and Vintage remakes that I couldn't live without.

I'm sure as many agree with me as disagree.

My point is, by holding back figures with a MUCH higher universal "approval rating", Mattel ensures higher Subscription retention and growth.

[Uki]

I'm loving the all-over-the-place aspcet to the release schedule. Of course, I am in for the long haul, will gladly buy next year's ALL-IN sub, and will be as excited for Gwildor, Perfuma, Hydron, and Photog as I am for Stinkor, Evilseed, Jungle Attack He-Man, and Fisto. (And honestly, you could plug any names ino that sentence and it would ring as true for me!)

[Novelty]

Most of the Vintage figures that sucked (keep in mind, that's a subjective term. I'm referring to the figures that are looked on with disdain by all but the most hardcore of MOTU fans), such as the Rock Lords, Meteorbs, Movie figures, Extendar, Dragstor...you know, the figures that were 99.9997% bad gimmick... came out in later waves.

I disagree to the extreme with your comment. The Sorceress was in one of the last waves and she is probably one of the most wanted yet to be released characters.

[Larry Waters]

I disagree to the extreme with your comment. The Sorceress was in one of the last waves and she is probably one of the most wanted yet to be released characters.

But the real question is did you bother to read that comment in context? If you read my opening statement, I doubt you'd taken my comment as you did...

While there were figures from every Wave that I loved, but none of those Waves were as good as the first few.

[Whiplash7]

I disagree to the extreme with your comment. The Sorceress was in one of the last waves and she is probably one of the most wanted yet to be released characters.

Like Randor though, the Sorceress was a very early character who was, for whatever reason, released very late. I don't think she can be compared to Rio-Blast and such.

[Novelty]

@Big Country: I would still disagree with your 2nd quote. As a Horde fan, my favourite waves are Wave 5 and 6, and some of my favourite characters are Leech, Grizzlor, Extendar, Dragstor, Sorceress, Scare Glow and Mosquitor. I'd gladly take Dragstor over say, MEF any day.

I think Mattel is clever enough to be mixing in the waves so that those who like the latter waves don't give up the line before it even starts.

[chuc98]

I LOVE the mix that Mattel is doing! It keeps us guessing and it keeps people's interest peeked for the line. While I love the original figures that we haven't seen…i.e. Mekaneck and Man-E-Faces…I have patience. I'm excited to see figures like Count Marzo and Tytus! What a great line that has so much to offer for everyone!

[He Man]

I'd gladly take Dragstor over say, MEF any day.

I think Mattel is clever enough to be mixing in the waves so that those who like the latter waves don't give up the line before it even starts.

Dragstor over Man E Faces?! ....

I totally agree with you on mixing in the waves!

[Canada-Man]

The reason is because they want to extend the fans' interest until 2017. If they produce all the vintage figures first, by wave, the fans that are only interested in the vintage line will stop collecting (like me)...

exactly.. how many figures would they sell if that all the good guys were made right away.

they need to spread the love to make the line be interesting to see whats coming out next....anticipation is half the fun

[Killian]

The reason is because they want to extend the fans' interest until 2017. If they produce all the vintage figures first, by wave, the fans that are only interested in the vintage line will stop collecting (like me)...

I LOVE the mix that Mattel is doing! It keeps us guessing and it keeps people's interest peeked for the line. While I love the original figures that we haven't seen…i.e. Mekaneck and Man-E-Faces…I have patience. I'm excited to see figures like Count Marzo and Tytus! What a great line that has so much to offer for everyone!

Quoted for truth. People have to stay interested in this line for it to be a continued success so it's important to save some of the most popular characters until later or the line will die before we can get some of the less popular or more obscure characters made.

And I for one LOVE the obscure characters! I'd rather have Anyone from POP or NA in place of characters like Ram-Man, Mekanek and man-E-Faces

[Novelty]

Dragstor over Man E Faces?! ....

And I'll take Extender over Ram Man if given a choice!!! Heck, I'd even take Ninjor over Clawful.

[RyanSD]

Personally I'd like to see them get to those core Wave 2 heroes sooner rather than later, because I don't think the line is going to last until 2016.

Imagine having a 'Masters of the Universe Classics' line that has Optikk and Gygor but doesn't have Ram-Man and Man-E-Faces.

[Spectror]

Most of the Vintage figures that sucked (keep in mind, that's a subjective term. I'm referring to the figures that are looked on with disdain by all but the most hardcore of MOTU fans), such as the Rock Lords, Meteorbs, Movie figures, Extendar, Dragstor...you know, the figures that were 99.9997% bad gimmick... came out in later waves.

OK. First thing: there were NO vintage figures that "sucked" ! Personally, I liked them all, even Rotar, Twistoïd and the Meteorbs !

Second, the last waves had very nice characters (Scareglow, Sorceress, King Randor, Snake Face, Horde Trooper, Dragstor, Tytus, Megator etc.). Not to mention the greatest playset of all : Eternia ! Well, at least that is what I think.

We cannot say that the last waves "sucked", nor that 1982-1985 was necessarily the time of the "best" waves. It was just the era in which MOTU was the most popular. MOTU didn't die because of "bad waves of characters". It died mainly because the kids were outgrowing it.

Now, why didn't we see Ram-Man, Mecaneck, or Man-E-Faces yet ?

The answer is quite simple : these characters had an action feature that defined them. And Mattel said there would be no action feature (except for Man-E-Faces :at least, we know from Toyguru he should his "action feature"). I think we'll see Man-E-Faces and Roboto soon. Their legs parts are ready. We know Ram-Man won't be for 2010. I don't know about Mekaneck. Ram-Man and Mekaneck are a bigger risk, since the 4 Horsement will have to find a way to make them atractive without their action feature...

[RyanSD]

OK. First thing: there were NO vintage figures that "sucked" ! Personally, I liked them all, even Rotar, Twistoïd and the Meteorbs !

Second, the last waves had very nice characters (Scareglow, Sorceress, King Randor, Snake Face, Horde Trooper, Dragstor, Tytus, Megator etc.). Not to mention the greatest playset of all : Eternia ! Well, at least that is what I think.

We cannot say that the last waves "sucked", nor that 1982-1985 was necessarily the time of the "best" waves. It was just the era in which MOTU was the most popular. MOTU didn't die because of "bad waves of characters". It died mainly because the kids were outgrowing it.

Now, why didn't we see Ram-Man, Mecaneck, or Man-E-Faces yet ?

The answer is quite simple : these characters had an action feature that defined them. And Mattel said there would be no action feature (except for Man-E-Faces :at least, we know from Toyguru he should his "action feature"). I think we'll see Man-E-Faces and Roboto soon. Their legs parts are ready. We know Ram-Man won't be for 2010. I don't know about Mekaneck. Ram-Man and Mekaneck are a bigger risk, since the 4 Horsement will have to find a way to make them atractive without their action feature...

I agree in theory, but if they have the tooling costs to go for a Gygor, then they can easily get the new pieces required for Man-E-Faces and Mekanek. Ram-Man could be a little harder, but that could be just newly tooled legs and armor over the standard body. Mekanek could be interchangeable heads, one with neck extended, one without. And Man-E-Faces action-feature is no more complicated then Tri-Klops, and we go that already. Its the same thing with armor on top.

I'm pretty sure they already have these guys designed out for the most part, the only reason they aren't up for release yet is that they are the few original classics left, and they are keeping them back in an effort to build the line with PoP/NA/200x/Misc. characters.