"Green" Trap Jaw in MOTUC

[scott metzger]

One big given:

There will be four "A" list re-dos a year. I seriously doubt these will be much different from BA He-Man or Keldor. i.e, they will be basically repiants with minimal tooling allowed. We have six years, at least (the 2016 date we're told the line is planned through), giving us 24 re-dos. We're going to run out of classic variants like BA Skeletor or Hurricane Hordak long before we hit that mark, so things like blonde Teela and green Trappy seem to be a valid way to fill those open slots.

Especially because the alternative of a Smash Blade He-Man or Spin Blade Skeletor as a quarterly figure would likely get someone seriously hurt....

[brutal81]

No thanks.

The MOTUniverse has so many original characters to cover, I'd hate to see a month's figure (or even a bonus) wasted on a repaint like this. Having a repaint Evil-Lyn or Hordak is one thing- I don't need a repaint Trap Jaw based on one mini-comic (by the way, I feel the same about the Goddess).

I agree this.

[Neal1972]

I'd be up for him, but I agree with the sentiment that he should not take up a monthly slot.
But yeah, I like repaints as long as there is justification for it. (I think it's justified in TJ's case.)

[Ntumbuluku]

I would buy it. Hopefully it wouldn't be a DCUC two pack. But I'd still buy it.

[josh]

As much as I love pre filmation I have to stand by my original decision and thats NO REPAINTS FOR THE SAKE OF REPAINTS!!!! Pick a version and release it!!

If a mini-comic accurate Trap Jaw were to be made he wouldn't be just a repaint. He's got as many differences as He-Man to Prince Adam and Battle Armor He-Man combined.

Also, it isn't "for the sake of repaints." Though, since they are doing repaints and A-list variants (of which I would consider Trap Jaw), we may as well (attempt to) give Mattel a better idea of what we'd like to see and be willing to spend our hard-earned money on.

[adam03]

If a mini-comic accurate Trap Jaw were to be made he wouldn't be just a repaint. He's got as many differences as He-Man to Prince Adam and Battle Armor He-Man combined.

Also, it isn't "for the sake of repaints." Though, since they are doing repaints and A-list variants (of which I would consider Trap Jaw), we may as well (attempt) to give Mattel a better idea of what we'd like to see and be willing to spend our hard-earned money on.

He would still be a variant repaint in that respect, there are no newly molded parts just a simple leg switch and if he still has the name Trapjaw and is not a new character he still falls under that category. Why not just give every figure 3 versions If it makes sense or the design is drastically changed ala 200X Evil Lyn, Randor or Adam then I can see it, but this is just for the sake of having a green Trapjaw and IMO shouldn`t be made. We voted NO to repaints that don`t make sense at the beginning of the line

[Mern-Ra]

I want Green Trap Jaw A LOT but I want him to be a straight up repaint of the current figure, the same way the 200X one was.

[josh]

He would still be a variant repaint in that respect, there are no newly molded parts just a simple leg switch and if he still has the name Trapjaw and is not a new character he still falls under that category. Why not just give every figure 3 versions If it makes sense or the design is drastically changed ala 200X Evil Lyn, Randor or Adam then I can see it, but this is just for the sake of having a green Trapjaw and IMO shouldn`t be made. We voted NO to repaints that don`t make sense at the beginning of the line

You'd rather plenty of people who are willing to buy this not get it just because you don't want it? Especially when, as I said, Mattel is making figures of this sort. That's the reality. It's not like we're asking for a belt to be colored differently and the rest of the figure to look exactly the same.

[Baena]

I want Green Trap Jaw A LOT but I want him to be a straight up repaint of the current figure, the same way the 200X one was.

Not me, I want a Green Trap Jaw but with the human legs change like the comic.

No offense, just statin' what I like.

I'd also hope he'd be more of the yellow green like the comic, and not the green of his current figure face color.

[adam03]

You'd rather plenty of people who are willing to buy this not get it just because you don't want it? Especially when, as I said, Mattel is making figures of this sort. That's the reality. It's not like we're asking for a belt to be colored differently and the rest of the figure to look exactly the same.

Not when it`s taking up bonus figure slots that have been tentatively fleshed out till 2017, and it was voted against by the majority when the line first started. IMO It shouldn`t be made for those reasons but in that same respect, do you want the majority ****** that it took a figure slot from US who voted against repaints such as this? It goes both ways you know, I`m not out to ruin anyone`s parade but when rules are set lets not break them just for the sake of making a few happy

[josh]

Not when it`s taking up bonus figure slots that have been tentatively fleshed out till 2017, and it was voted against by the majority when the line first started. IMO It shouldn`t be made for those reasons but in that same respect, do you want the majority ****** that it took a figure slot from US who voted against repaints such as this? It goes both ways you know, I`m not out to ruin anyone`s parade but when rules are set lets not break them just for the sake of making a few happy

Those bonus figure slots are for A-list variants. Besides, how do you know this repaint isn't one of those scheduled slots?

Also, a TRU two-pack -- which are also figures with no new tooling -- would be better than no opportunity at all. And people have said they'd be okay with that as an option to buy this.

As for "rules," there's only one set: whatever Mattel decides and whenever they please.

[adam03]

Those bonus figure slots are for A-list variants. Besides, how do you know this repaint isn't one of those scheduled slots?

Also, a TRU two-pack -- which are also figures with no new tooling -- would be better than no opportunity at all. And people have said they'd be okay with that as an option to buy this.

As for "rules," there's only one set: whatever Mattel decides and whenever they please.

If He is scheduled, Yay, if he`s released in a DC pack Yay again! but I`m talking about repaints for the sake of a repaint like this, which was voted against! The only reason to release this is to release a green Trapjaw, theres no other reason for it other than personal preferance. Sure you may want it and I`m not trying to take that away I`m just pointing it may be unlikely since there was a vote. Mattel has said numerous times they aren`t going to change anything that was voted for, not even figure limits on Matty and thats what my theory is based on not your or even my preferance for that matter

[josh]

If He is scheduled, Yay, if he`s released in a DC pack Yay again! but I`m talking about repaints for the sake of a repaint like this, which was voted against! The only reason to release this is to release a green Trapjaw, theres no other reason for it other than personal preferance. Sure you may want it and I`m not trying to take that away I`m just pointing it may be unlikely since there was a vote. Mattel has said numerous times they aren`t going to change anything that was voted for, not even figure limits on Matty and thats what my theory is based on not your or even my preferance for that matter

That may be what your theory is based on, but that isn't how you phrased it when you posted.

Anyways, if it takes a new head and some "This is what he looked like before something happened to him bio," then he's just as valid as Keldor (for example).

[Uki]

I don't really kow where a "green"/mini-comic Trap Jaw would fit in storywise...Still, that's the only place I would care to see this figure show up.

[adam03]

That may be what your theory is based on, but that isn't how you phrased it when you posted.

Anyways, if it takes a new head and some "This is what he looked like before something happened to him bio," then he's just as valid as Keldor (for example).

No, you took out if what you wanted to get from my statement, my opinion falls under the rule of no repaints, maybe you should go back and re read what I said. I said since it was voted on IMO it shouldn`t be made, we voted that way for a reason. A far as explaining it as what happened before that`s what the extra head and arm he came with is forI have made my point and am moving on from this back and forth

[danielsan52]

We voted NO to repaints that don`t make sense at the beginning of the line

A repaint that does NOT make sense would be disco skeletor, or red Sy-Klone. A repaint taken from a mini comic, or promotional artwork (orange Ram Man) is considered a repaint that makes sense.

If He is scheduled, Yay, if he`s released in a DC pack Yay again! but I`m talking about repaints for the sake of a repaint like this, which was voted against! The only reason to release this is to release a green Trapjaw, theres no other reason for it other than personal preferance. Sure you may want it and I`m not trying to take that away I`m just pointing it may be unlikely since there was a vote. Mattel has said numerous times they aren`t going to change anything that was voted for, not even figure limits on Matty and thats what my theory is based on not your or even my preferance for that matter

Toyguru stated long ago that characters that appeared a certain variation in minicomics or promotional artwork like Orange Ram Man are what repaints are all about for this line. That's why we got the Goddess in green. As for green Trap-Jaw, it would be fine with me if they made him a different character, maybe name him after that Big Jim character.....

[Reboot]

One big given:

There will be four "A" list re-dos a year...We have six years, at least (the 2016 date we're told the line is planned through), giving us 24 re-dos. We're going to run out of classic variants like BA Skeletor or Hurricane Hordak long before we hit that mark, so things like blonde Teela and green Trappy seem to be a valid way to fill those open slots.

Well, those 24 slots also at least cover (a) MYP variants - explicitly including Sorceress, Adam, Randor, Evil-Lyn & Snake Armour He-Man [and possibly others like red/blue armour Marlena]; (b) NA variants, especially He-Man & "Battle Blade" (NA toon) Skeletor; and (c) POP variants, including toy vs "styleguide" alternates like toy-based She-Ra.

Ultimately, filling the slots ain't going to be a problem

We voted NO to repaints that don`t make sense at the beginning of the line

Uh, the vote was for no CHASE variants, along the lines of the "bronze statue" KG from SDCC08, where a small part of a figure's run is different in a significant way.

That would only apply here if the "green TJ"s were randomly mixed in with standard TJ, and you didn't know which you'd get until you opened the parcel.

[Spacedust]

Dunno where I stand on this...
Trap Jaw is one of my top three all-time favourite MOTU characters (the other two, for the record, are Faker and Tri-Klops). The green version does look kinda good, I wouldn't object to having him in my collection.

Then again... as good as a green TJ would be, I'm not sure if I want much time wasted on too many variants (especially bearing in mind the detrimental effect it had on 200x), when I'd prefer to see the effort put into new releases.

Either way, regarding "The Menace of Trap Jaw", I wish this was the kind of story we'd seen in 200x.

And in my personal Universe canon, this is Trap Jaw's origin - a weird murderous mercenary from an alien dimension; I just warm to this concept much more than the whole Kronis thing (which, to be totally honest, I'm sometimes bemused as to why people much such a fuss about)

[13977]

Maybe as a DCU two pack but I wouldn't be fussed about a single card release if him in this colour.

[Toymaker]

I do like green Trap-Jaw, I got the 200X version, and along with the Man-E from that line, I had them as seperate characters, a pair of space pirates!

For those saying he wouldn't be an A-List variant, as he wouldn't just be a repaint with minimal tooling, all I can say is Zodak!

[ADPriceless]

In my opinion a green Trap Jaw would be a good fit for the MOTU v DCUC 2 packs.

Having seen the Merman that is on the way I think a green TJ would fall into that category.

I like the look of him but not sure he would be a sub figure going on what we have seen so far - unfortunately for me the 2 packs aren't sold in the UK yet...

[Badgumbo]

In my opinion a green Trap Jaw would be a good fit for the MOTU v DCUC 2 packs.

Having seen the Merman that is on the way I think a green TJ would fall into that category.

I like the look of him but not sure he would be a sub figure going on what we have seen so far - unfortunately for me the 2 packs aren't sold in the UK yet...

Agreed. I think the DC 2 packs are the perfect format for this type of release. As far as I know, Green TJ only ever appeared in the one mini. I think he looks bad ass and would be interested in a proper version of him and perhaps a Red Beastman, blonde teela, etc.. if they decided to use a bonus slot, I don't think I would gave a problem either it just majesty more sense to release a comic only styled figure in a comic themed release.

[adam03]

Well, those 24 slots also at least cover (a) MYP variants - explicitly including Sorceress, Adam, Randor, Evil-Lyn & Snake Armour He-Man [and possibly others like red/blue armour Marlena]; (b) NA variants, especially He-Man & "Battle Blade" (NA toon) Skeletor; and (c) POP variants, including toy vs "styleguide" alternates like toy-based She-Ra.

Ultimately, filling the slots ain't going to be a problem



Uh, the vote was for no CHASE variants, along the lines of the "bronze statue" KG from SDCC08, where a small part of a figure's run is different in a significant way.

That would only apply here if the "green TJ"s were randomly mixed in with standard TJ, and you didn't know which you'd get until you opened the parcel.

We didn`t vote against randomly packed variants King Grayskull was used as an example as a repaint for the sake of a repaints because he was the only figure in the line! Just like TG now uses earlier figures as examples The only reason to release a green Trapjaw would be for the sake if it which we voted against

[scott metzger]

Well, those 24 slots also at least cover (a) MYP variants - explicitly including Sorceress, Adam, Randor, Evil-Lyn & Snake Armour He-Man [and possibly others like red/blue armour Marlena]; (b) NA variants, especially He-Man & "Battle Blade" (NA toon) Skeletor; and (c) POP variants, including toy vs "styleguide" alternates like toy-based She-Ra. Ultimately, filling the slots ain't going to be a problem

I seriously doubt a lot of those will be in the bonus slots because the bonus figures are limited as far as new tooling goes. Recall, we couldn't get the sword with BA He-Man because it didn't cost out, and the ONLY new parts were the armor and the three chest plates. MYP Adam is a whole new figure, and many of the others listed require a lot of new parts. These figures will surely be monthly figures if made, just as Vikor, a He-Man variant, is (because he required too much new tooling to make).

The former bonus, now quarterly, figures are intended to get more use out of existing molds to stretch the tooling dollars, something Mattel basically spelled out from the start. A few new pieces like we saw with BA He-Man and Keldor are what we will be getting there, not figures with a lot of new pieces. MYP Sorceress and Evil Lynn won't be quarterly figures, but blonde Teela or green Trap Jaw might be.

[Swanmarsh]

The only reason to release a green Trapjaw would be for the sake if it which we voted against

Actually, releasing a green Trapjaw wouldn't be "for the sake of it" but because:

- a number of fans desire this figure
- there is a precedent for green Trapjaw figure release (200x)
- it is a homage to the only bona fide origin of Trap Jaw that lasted 20 years without challenge until 200x/MYP/MVC
- this version of Trap Jaw featured in 3 mini-comics (2nd series)

Personally, I would be happy for Mattel to release green Trapjaw as a distinct entity (someone suggested "Ironjaw") if that is the way Matty chooses to handle such figures. I'd even be happy if he only came with the laser rifle arm (no hook or claw) as per the mini-comic.

A DC vs 2 pak would be cool, so long as he had He-Man legs, not Roboto legs.

As long as MOTUC continues to be a sales success, I don't think the fear-driven "he'll take someone elses slot" argument has much merit. That said, I do respect your considered opinion Adam03 that you don't want this awesome figure. That's your loss. I just hope its not ours.