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    I actually never saw Orko as cheezy "comedy relief"

    Orko is one of my all-time favorite characters, but "comic relief" is not how I ever really saw him; I always saw him more as "adding a childlike theme to a really serious situation". He's almost like a "security blanket"; you feel better knowing he's there.

    Well, that's how I always looked at him.
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    He's always been no different than Porky Pig, The 3 Stooges, C3PO, Laurel and Hardy, or any other comic relief you want to name. As a kid I used to be a little more open to the character, but now that I'm older, he doesn't hold that appeal. I wouldn't even want his figure if it wasn't for nostalgia.
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    to be fair, the only "comedy relief" I find mildly annoying is Slimer; consider me one of a very small minority of people that even likes Snarf from the Thundercats.

    No, every Filmation episode I watch is only more enjoyable for me if Orko is in it.

    Thought he was kinda cool in the MYP series too.

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    The only redeeming quality of the various scripts for MOTU movies that have floated about over the last few years is that there is no mention of Orko.

    He's (in the words of Charles Barkley) turrible.
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    Definitely comic relief, but I still like him then and now.

    Filmation He-Man would have been really dull without Orko in it.
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    I never saw him as comedic relief either... because he isn't funny. Heyooo!

    As fun as it is to harp on Orko, I remember really liking him as a kid and being excited to get his figure. As an adult he's much harder to digest, especially in 200x since the voice was terribly annoying.
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    Orko was never a fav of mine. I like him simply for his place in the mythos and what he means to the mythos. He was better in the 200X stuff, IMO, but even then he wasn't a big fav. or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkhide View Post
    Orko was never a fav of mine. I like him simply for his place in the mythos and what he means to the mythos. He was better in the 200X stuff, IMO, but even then he wasn't a big fav. or anything.
    To each their own I guess, I was just going to post how much I prefer the filmation Orko!

    I found him really annoying in 200x, like they were trying too hard with the clutzy stuff.

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    orko is a character in the main cast who knows he-man's secret! why is that important? think about it the only others are man-at-ams cringer and the sorceress. sorceress is stuck in grayskull, cringer is a coward and an animal, man-at-arms cant always be the one that provides an alibi it would get old very quickly.

    plus he is able to use magic which is something the masters lack! if they need to do a spell they cant always get the sorceress who even then has no power outside grayskull.

    even if its just someone to explain things to, as orko like the audience dosent come from eternia so would have no clue about the things they take for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by customcrazy View Post
    To each their own I guess, I was just going to post how much I prefer the filmation Orko!

    I found him really annoying in 200x, like they were trying too hard with the clutzy stuff.
    Yeah, it's just one of those things. I'm not a giant Filmation person. Don't get me wrong, I liked several episodes as a kid, and still enjoy a lot of Filmation-Only characters, but Orko was one of a few things that bothered me about it when I was younger. I dunno exactly why, but there it is.

    I want Orko, but I don't want him above say MEF, Ram Man, Fisto, or Sy-Klone. Thankfully I won't have to choose, and can get Orko when he's released and such, since it won't conflict with the release of anyone else.
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    For me, Orko is more integral to the mythos (in all its forms) than even characters like Ram Man or Man-E-Faces. I love them, don't get me wrong, but Orko is important. I mean, there's the nostalgia factor alone. Then there is the fact that I think he really was funny. He and Cringer are hilarious together.

    I think, as with any other character, it's up to each person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by customcrazy View Post
    To each their own I guess, I was just going to post how much I prefer the filmation Orko!

    I found him really annoying in 200x, like they were trying too hard with the clutzy stuff.
    Oddly enough with all the stuff I really enjoyed about the 200x show,
    I preferred Filmation's handling of the character over MYP's version.

    Until he used the Ramstone. Then they broke about even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    For me, Orko is more integral to the mythos (in all its forms) than even characters like Ram Man or Man-E-Faces. I love them, don't get me wrong, but Orko is important. I mean, there's the nostalgia factor alone. Then there is the fact that I think he really was funny. He and Cringer are hilarious together.

    I think, as with any other character, it's up to each person.
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    I was never too crazy about Orko--straight Saturday morning cartoon character inserted into barbarian fantasy. He was basically Needle the Phoenix in Conan the Adventurer.

    However, like Prince Adam (another concept I wasn't too crazy about in Filmation, but better handled in 200X) I thought he was way more competent in 200X, having only occasional appearances. I liked how he used basic spells to thwart or at least slow down both King Hiss AND Skeletor.

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    I did originally see him as kind of comic relief, but I'm glad to see he's being treated a bit more seriously. 200X started that trend and Classics is continuing it.
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    I've always liked Orko - to me he's absolutely integral to the story (to be fair, the Filmation canon is my primary/default 'official' MOTU storyline), and I've never minded him in the classic sense.

    I really liked the 4H redesign in the 200X line, but I found his portrayal on the 200X show grating - over the top, and as customcrazy put it, it felt like they were trying too hard with him. Plus the voice was irritating.

    Whenever Orko's written as "Look how funny!", it doesn't work, but as the well-meaning, somewhat inept, but always earnest sidekick/kid brother type character, he's fine by me.

    And I am certainly going to be very grumpy if I'm not able to snag him on 8/2!
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    You're a cool dude, Kinger, but Orko is "teh suck". Whatever manifestation he appears as he is pretty weak across the board...to me at least.
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    I'll admit: I don't have any idea what I thought of him. I had the toy, and I remember using his feature to watch him freak out and spin around like a maniac, but I don't remember what I thought of him. Then again, I barely remember anything of the show past The Secret Of the Sword and a few other things here and there.
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    I was really young at the time, but I vaguely remember liking Orko on the original show. I liked him enough to ask for the original figure, I remember that much and I'm looking forward to this new figure.

    Watching those shows now with my kids, I tend to appreciate the goofiness of Orko. It's sort of like hearing a really corny joke. His silly little theme song is also amusing to me and the kids love him.

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    I liked him as a kid, and I like him as an adult for the same reason Matthew K listed; my daughter thinks he's great, so it makes me like him again.

    Sure he's goofy and silly, but "goofy and silly" is just as much a part of MOTU as "dark and serious."

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    If you can re-imagine him slightly, a sort of absent-minded, clumsy, yet profoundly insightful tutor to Prince Adam (think Merlin in The Sword In The Stone for instance), you can find a place for Orko in a more "serious-minded" MOTU mythos.

    Orko edifies Adam's intelligence, Duncan, his physicality. Together they make Adam the formidable leader he is to become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    For me, Orko is more integral to the mythos (in all its forms) than even characters like Ram Man or Man-E-Faces. I love them, don't get me wrong, but Orko is important. I mean, there's the nostalgia factor alone. Then there is the fact that I think he really was funny. He and Cringer are hilarious together.

    I think, as with any other character, it's up to each person.
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    To me, Orko is important to the mythos, and I really wouldn't want any future version of MOTU to be without him (and IMO he should be in the movie when/if it gets made... we were already jipped once in 1987 when they had Gwildor more or less as "replacement Orko").

    Overall, I prefer the Filmation incarnation over the 200X version in terms of the personality, voice, etc. (as others said, it felt like they were trying to hard with that version). What I did like about the 200X version was that they did attempt to give him a few good moments of heroicness (i.e. the Ram Stone episode). I also liked the idea that he still was powerful on Eternia when he had his wand in 200X, but lost it shortly after arrival. To me that meant that if he ever did get his wand back, he could definately kick some butt.

    And that is something that I would love to see in a future movie, cartoon, or whatever... Orko maybe starting out as comic relief like he was in the 80s, but having him (some way, some how) being put in a position where he really does have a formidable amount of power available to him (whether it's via a wand like in 200X, or whatever), and actually see him really hold his own in action. That would be seriously awesome!
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    I didn't grow up on Filmation so Orko is just a tertiary character to me. He's certainly not as important to me as say Teela or Beastman, and to me MOTU would still be very much the same without him. I find him relatively annoying in both cartoons, but I do find the interplay between him and MAA can be great. Still, it can be a little much. In my personal continuity I see him more as a tragic but upbeat wizard who's lost his power, and I'd drop most of the goofball childlike jester stuff.
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    I like Orko. He's got a fairly unique design, and adds some fun to the mythos.

    I think he probably was a bit over-the-top at times in the cartoon tho. But in the UK and German comics that I read as a kid, he was slightly toned down in the fumbling-department, and that made him a very viable character. His magic is often, altho fairly unpredictable, quite useful.

    He could often pull himself together when there was something really serious going on, and work the magic decently. ( and since he's actually pretty god-damn powerful, apparently on par with the Sorceress herself, this could be some pretty impressive stuff, once you scraped the surface of it) But in more relaxed occassions his chaotic magic misfires and leads to comedy.

    Case in point: When He-man was searching for the Book of Evil, they were assaulted by a beast of magma. He-man throws up a shield to protect them, but it's not enough, so Orko combines his magic with that of the sword, completing the protective sphere. Later on in the story, Orko attempts to show how magic illusions work, by turning a cane into something else, but accidentally turns it into the image of a poisonous snake.

    See? Orko has great potential. =) You just need to tone him down a little bit, in the right places. In Sweden his 200x and classic voices were toned down as well, so altho similar to the English ones, they weren't as annoying.

    So... I love Orko, and I'll be getting his fig.

    ( dunno' if I can afford him at the mo' tho'...)

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