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    The Hobbit Movie Thread

    This would be disastrous if it happened. Everyone involved in this project REALLY needs to get their ass in gear already. It's just one thing after another.


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    If Ian is out, then I am out. I wouldn't even touch it as dvd rental. Shame such a fantastic trilogy has come to this. Plus Bond and then you factor in I still enjoy stargate direct to dvd films MGM has made one huge ass mess. Don't quite understand how such big properties can just collect dust, there should be offers.

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    Personally, I would not blame him if he did quit. It sounds as if they are jerking him around a lot, at least from his perspective. Still, that doesn't bode well for the film as I don't know any actors who do a good "Ian McKellan" impression. Still, I supposed Michael Gambon is looking for work after the Harry Potter franchise wrapped up... (I kid, I kid)
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    Consider this Dumbledore was replaced by Gambon and as much as love Harris as Dumbledore. There can be a thing and actor can play Gandalf just as good as McKellen but I thinks its all about money really. 3 actors could play Gandalf in my book in my mind other Then Ian. If it goes that far which i doubt it. Geoffrey Rush.
    Just picture hims as Gandalf The Grey.
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    Liam Neeson be a good younger Gandalf The Grey and you could make him look older then Liams age.

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    Richard Harris will always be my Dumbledore. I would have picked McKellan to replace Harris, personally.
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    I'm still wondering why The Hobbit film wasn't made before the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. It IS the first adventure of the story and brings about some important plot points that are pivotal in LOTR.


    Of course now, as far as problems getting the film off of the ground, you cannot tell me it is the script. If Peter Jackson's trilogy was able to make an almost flawless film translation of Tolkien's written works, a script for a Hobbit film isn't THAT hard. Well, unless Justin Marks is writing their script, then of course they'll need to hire new script writers.
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    We all can't just sit around and wait. Ian McKellen isn't getting any younger.
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    Don't think this movie will ever happen. I could actually do without PJ, I feel that the diffrence in tone in the book from Lord of the Rings lends well to a different director, but The Hobbit without McKellen? Better to scrap the whole movie, and bring on a unique creative team and do the movie as its own thing not tied to Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy.

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    The only way a New Gandalf can work is if The Hobbit is basically a reboot like Spider-man and we end with a new LOTR movie. Yeah I know rings is flawless and its a rediculas notion but the way hollywood is it could be an idea.
    But also I think people forget how long it took the first 3 films to be made. Also Jackson has stated he was more a fan of the Lord Of The Rings and felt The Hobbit was more for Kids.
    David Yates is WB security blanket for he likely knows McKellen and maybe can get him to stay on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madara View Post
    If Ian is out, then I am out.
    Hate to say it but me too. Really wouldn't be surprised if this movie never saw the light of day, which would be a real shame.
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    the way movies (well plans for them) seem to appear and disappear these days at alarming rates I don't believe that any movie is being made until I see either a trailer or at least some on set photos.
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    Ian was servicable as Gandalf in LOTR, but I always thought that he and Christopher Lee should have swapped roles. Being that The Hobbit will be a "prequel" of sorts some 7 or so years after the last Tolkein film, it would make more sense to have some fresh faces in there. Especially Bilbo.
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    WB has a plan and a script and writers on Board and WB can smell cash cows and I would not rulse out a HObbit film. Well things happen its the part of movie making. I say best to like and love a movie character and not an Actor for as mortel men we all die or have requirments. I say lets not panic until its made official that being a Cast and such. But i would think there must be some plans to make them for real. Or way give timid release dates. Alot of problems was the stupid lawsuits for if not for that delay we would have had the movies before mgm went into debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhibitor View Post
    Especially Bilbo.
    Bilbo obviously will be recast. They aren't going to have an 80 year-old in that role.

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    It would really suck to lose McKellan as Gandalf.
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    Get Ian Mcdiarmid (sp)

    Sometimes great casting can be done laterally. To me, Liv Taylor was just as good as Jennifer Connelly in playing Betty Ross. Same with Thomas Jane and Ray Stevenson. I may be alone in these choices, but I encourage many people to think about same characters played by different stars.

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    While I really hope it doesn't come to his departure, Patrick Stewart sounds enough like him that he'd probably be a good fill in (under the fake hair and beard I mean). Stewart's got to be hurting by now, having been shut out of both the X-Men and Trek franchises. Sure, he's a prima donna, but you'd only have to put up with him for a couple of movies anyway, and like I said, he's gotta be wanting to get back into the titles of a major movie again.

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    Ian out would greatly change my perception of this movie. Let's hope it does not happen.

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    Peter Jackson Running Into Union Trouble on 'The Hobbit'
    by Will Leitch · September 27, 2010

    You can be forgiven for being skeptical that "The Hobbit" will ever be made. Back in October 2007, Entertainment Weekly announced on its cover that Peter Jackson would be putting together a prequel to his "Lord of the Rings" films based on the J. R. R. Tolkien book series. Since then, everything has gone wrong: Jackson sued New Line over the rights to the film; the Tolkien family then sued them as well; MGM, one of the two studios planning to distribute the film, ran into the money woes (which are also holding up the James Bond films); Guillermo Del Toro, who was supposed to direct, worked with Jackson for two years before dropping out last May and handing the reins back to him. With Jackson taking over, and Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving signed on to reprise their roles, the film was expected to finally be back on schedule.

    But now Jackson has a more serious problem: The International Federation of Actors, along with the Screen Actors Guild, is discouraging actors to work on the film because of the non-union labor in New Zealand. This is serious business for SAG: Essentially, actors who work on the film, like McKellen and Weaving, would be in violation of the union's bylaws and subject to expulsion from the union. The Hollywood Reporter notes just how rare it is for SAG to be so strident about a big-studio picture.

    Jackson isn't happy about it, according to BBC News:

    Jackson said the wrangle was a "grab for power" and "an attempt by the "Australian bully-boy" to exert influence over New Zealand's film industry. "It feels as if we have a large Aussie cousin kicking sand in our eyes... or to put it another way, opportunists exploiting our film for their own political gain."

    Jackson has threatened to move the filming to Eastern Europe, which would seem to lack the breathtaking vistas that made the "Lord of the Rings" films look like they really did take place in a fantasy world. It's a bit strange to see Jackson, one of the wealthiest filmmakers on the planet, complaining about having sand kicked in his eyes, and it's starting to look like the project is taking a toll on him. (It doesn't help that "The Lovely Bones" was a critical and commercial disappointment.) It's also worth noting that the weakest scenes in the "Lord of the Rings" movies take place in the shire where the hobbits live; basing two whole movies on just hobbit-land would seem far from the financial slam-dunk that the previous three movies were.

    But considering the tortured history of "The Hobbit," it's more than a little likely that, three years from now, we'll be writing about how Peter Jackson is still trying to get "The Hobbit" off the ground.
    I personally love the line about basing the films on just hobbit-land. Did the writer of this article even read The Hobbit? And the second film is supposed to deal with the events in between it and LOTR. Idiot.

    And just yesterday:

    'The Hobbit' to leave New Zealand

    Labor disputes spur 'Lord of the Rings' prequel to find another filming location

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    Hollywood bosses have confirmed they are searching for a new location for the "Lord of the Rings" prequel "The Hobbit" in the wake of a dispute with New Zealand actors unions.

    All three previous "Lord of the Rings" movies were filmed in the country, and director Peter Jackson, who will produce the new picture, has urged union executives to reconsider their planned boycott, saying that a relocation would seriously harm New Zealand's entertainment industry.

    The standoff revolves around movie bosses' refusal to sign a deal with local unions amid allegations of unfair treatment of performers, and other organizations in America, Canada and Britain have all backed the boycott.

    Executives at the movie studios behind "The Hobbit" have now spoken out to condemn criticism of Jackson and his film crew, insisting they are "exploring all alternative options" to make sure filming goes ahead as planned.

    The joint statement from New Line, Warner Bros. and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) reads, "(We) are concerned by the recent allegations of unfair treatment of actors in New Zealand ... we believe that in this case the allegations are baseless and unfair to Peter Jackson and his team in Wellington who have been tireless supporters of the New Zealand motion picture community.

    "Motion picture production requires the certainty that a production can reasonably proceed without disruption and it is our general policy to avoid filming in locations where there is potential for workforce uncertainty or other forms of instability. As such, we are exploring all alternative options in order to protect our business interests."

    The union dispute is the latest in a long line of problems to have hit "The Hobbit" in recent months. The film is currently on hold due to ongoing financial problems at MGM, and director Guillermo del Toro quit last May due to the lengthy delays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    While I really hope it doesn't come to his departure, Patrick Stewart sounds enough like him that he'd probably be a good fill in (under the fake hair and beard I mean). Stewart's got to be hurting by now, having been shut out of both the X-Men and Trek franchises. Sure, he's a prima donna, but you'd only have to put up with him for a couple of movies anyway, and like I said, he's gotta be wanting to get back into the titles of a major movie again.
    I was going to say Patrick Stewart for a replacement, if Ian walks!

    RE: New Zealand: Why don't they just film every possible background they would need and then green screen them in? Stuff like this has worked for many big movies. 300 is mainly all green screen...with some real Canadian wheat. So, all the actors would be acting in a film studio somewhere else: U.S., Canada, Europe, who cares. No more problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post
    While I really hope it doesn't come to his departure, Patrick Stewart sounds enough like him that he'd probably be a good fill in (under the fake hair and beard I mean). Stewart's got to be hurting by now, having been shut out of both the X-Men and Trek franchises. Sure, he's a prima donna, but you'd only have to put up with him for a couple of movies anyway, and like I said, he's gotta be wanting to get back into the titles of a major movie again.
    Patrick Stewart isn't hurting for work. He moved back to England and has been focusing primarily on stage work the past few years. That is where his passion is. He has been in a number of large theatre productions the past few years. He was on stage in "Waiting for Godot" last year with Ian McKellen, and is currently starring in a Broadway production of David Mamet's "A Life in the Theatre".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    I personally love the line about basing the films on just hobbit-land. Did the writer of this article even read The Hobbit? And the second film is supposed to deal with the events in between it and LOTR. Idiot.

    And just yesterday:
    Wow, who'd have thought there'd be so much haggling! You're right about that moron who made that "Hobbitland" statement. Just like LOTR, the Shire based scenes occur at the beginning and only a few at the end! In between you've got Mirkwood Forest, Misty Mountains, Lake-town, and the Lonely Mountain...

    The New Zealand actors unions are ruining this for themselves. They ought to trust their fellow countryman in his decisions regarding the picture. He did, after all, put them on the entertainment map. This will not work with everyone screaming "me-me-me!"

    Idiots all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inhibitor View Post
    Wow, who'd have thought there'd be so much haggling! You're right about that moron who made that "Hobbitland" statement. Just like LOTR, the Shire based scenes occur at the beginning and only a few at the end! In between you've got Mirkwood Forest, Misty Mountains, Lake-town, and the Lonely Mountain...

    The New Zealand actors unions are ruining this for themselves. They ought to trust their fellow countryman in his decisions regarding the picture. He did, after all, put them on the entertainment map. This will not work with everyone screaming "me-me-me!"

    Idiots all around.
    I wouldn't worry about this as the New Zealand government has stepped in to sort it out. However I would point out it was the Australian unions NOT the New Zealand unions which started all this nonsense.

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    Fire.......

    The Hobbit Who Played With Fire
    By Garth Franklin
    Monday, October 4th 2010 07:42AM

    After financial issues and the union strike threat, Peter Jackson's anticipated film adaptation of "The Hobbit" has once again hit a stumbling block.

    This time a fire broke out Friday at Jackson's Portsmouth Miniatures Studio in New Zealand, engulfing and destroying one of the few specialist miniature shooting facilities in the world reports Deadline.

    It took fifty firefighters three hours to put out the blaze, leaving only a burned out warehouse in place of one of the key workshops that would've been used by the production.

    The news came just hours after a report emerged at The Los Angeles Times that the studios were close to green lighting the project, having resolved most of the key issues that have held up the project.

    The article cites that the two films would be shot together on a budget approaching $500 million for the pair, with $45 million having already been spent on pre-production. Barring last-minute issues that might raise their heads, shooting could begin by mid-January which would have the films in theaters for Christmas 2012 and 2013.

    On Sunday the problem of the union dispute over the film looked to be headed towards some kind of resolution as well as New Zealand Prime Minister John Key stepped into the fight and offered government officials to help mediate the dispute reports The Herald Sun.

    Key is very keen on keeping the projects in New Zealand, however film industry officials from Australia, Canada, Scotland and Ireland are all campaigning to serve as potential replacements if the dispute cannot be resolved.

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    Wow, that fire doesn't sound extremely suspicious. The Australians get ****** off because the NZ gov stepped in?
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