Man-at-arms/Teela/Sorceress dynamic in MOTUC

[Masamune]

Hope this is worthy of a new thread. kk2 pointed out that the Teela's father thing was hijacking another thread (in a round about way). Though there was more to it than just who was her father, but her relationship to the Sorceress what it means for her character being a clone in MOTUC. So here is a new thread to carry on that discussion here. I hope the posters don't mind I've quoted what I believe are the highlights of that thread of conversation.

Yeah, I was annoyed too. Though I'm more upset she loses the mother daughter relationship with the Sorceress. Sure you can argue that the Sorceress would care for her, but not truly as if she were the child she felt forced to abandon. But like Toy Guru said there is no official canon, the fans decide that for themselves (paraphrased, of course). Personally I edit that part out.

Well...I still don't believe Fisto was Teela's dad in MYP. In the episode "Out of the Past" the Sorceress' husband had the skin tone of MAA and dark brown eyebrows. Fisto is pasty white, with red eyebrows and an ENORMOUS fist (which the Soldier did not have). Also, the Sorceress is very cryptic in the episode and says the following:

Sorceress: "...your daughter."
MAA: "You mean my adopted daughter."
Sorceress ends the conversation and leaves MAA to ponder.

The whole soldier losing his memory and returning to battle (and forgetting all about the Sorceress for some reason...) screams MAA to me. The Sorceress, still knowing who her husband is, gives Teela to MAA to protect because she knows he's a great man and can take care of Teela...and Teela is with her real father. The Sorceress doesn't reveal this info to protect everyone involved, just like why Adam can't tell Teela and his parents he's He-Man. I have a thread about it in the 200X forum somewhere, but here are the pictures I combined to show the similarities between MAA and the soldier and the EXTREME differences between Fisto and the soldier. I think the Fisto story was to throw us of the MAA trail.

http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...&pictureid=427

http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...&pictureid=428





What Sandman said. He was never explicitly stated to be Gar, but if you're looking for your relatives and you go to where all the Gars live...you're Gar, right? Especially when you're blue. That's how I took it.

In my opinion, by going with the Tale of Teela origin, they've basically made Skeletor her father as he created her by stealing her "mother's" energy. It also makes her the child of a symbolic rape in a kind of Marvel Comics meets Greek myth way. It's pretty heavy stuff, and could be great in the right writer's hands, but I think in the bios it reads like just another piece of trivia like Jungulia and that Demo-Man guy. This is why we need minicomics again, Mattel. Beef up the stories, not just the toys.

I hate it, not because I ever felt a burning need to know who her father was, but for these reasons. And also the other thing that people keep mentioning, it dehumanizes the Sorceress greatly by taking away the only mortal relation (that we know of) that she ever had. Her "moment of weakness" if you will (or conversely her moment of strength).

Blah.

MOTUC doesn't worry about popularity. It's major customers are MOTU fans who would by any character, no matter how obscure. September alone is proof of this.

Maybe the reason is to assure the fans that Fisto isn't the father. And no trouble of worrrying about who the father is. The fans will want someone really awesome to be the father and maybe Mattel realizes that they could never live up to such high expectations.

I do like the idea that MAA could be the father and that Fisto could be a red herring. Nice catch with the skin color and the hint from "The Ties that Bind".
The only trouble with that is MAA never lost his memory...unless the Sorceress made him forget with magic.

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