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    The HUB(Formerly Discovery Kids) has 80's and 90's goodness

    The Hub Starts on 10-10-2010

    I just looked at the schedule on my cable box and this channel has some exciting listings for shows.

    On Everyday: -multiple air times for all
    Fraggle Rock
    Batman Beyond
    MIB the animated series

    Tuesday -Saturday:
    Transformers original Gen 1 Tv Series-12:00am est
    G. I. Joe original series-12:30 am est

    Monday - Friday:
    Batman the Adam West 60's series-multiple air times

    Saturdays and Sundays:
    Where in the world is Carmen San Diego?(Fox-made original Cartoon, not game show)

    These are just a few I saw listed and will get more info as the week progress, right now until sunday Discovery KIds will still run the regular shows and on Sunday they will change their name to the HUB(Hasbro Universal[Studios] Broadcasting). They also will broadcat new shows, mostly Hasbro properities.

    Two I am really looking forward to are Transformers Prime and G.I. Joe Renegades.
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    surprised to see batman cartoons on there. most of the old shows they're airing are ones i'd love to watch. i'm really excited about the new gi joe cartoon. not as psyched about transformers prime though. i just don't care for the style. i do like that they made cliffjumper a completely different looking character from bumblebee.

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    Maragret Loesch is helming the ship at HUB. She was running Fox Kids Network back when Haim Saban brought her Power Rangers. She's a consummate and seasoned pro with a long history in children's entertainment. So rest assured HUB is in good hands and we'll be seeing strong programming from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    Maragret Loesch is helming the ship at HUB. She was running Fox Kids Network back when Haim Saban brought her Power Rangers. She's a consummate and seasoned pro with a long history in children's entertainment. So rest assured HUB is in good hands and we'll be seeing strong programming from them.
    It's just sad that for most networks in 2011, the only real childrens programming they are buying is older programming we grew up with. Even on cable you only have Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network that are making new programming.

    Great for us, but I long for the days when toys drove cartoons and there was a desire for kids to use their imagination (instead of the claim that cartoons were just toy driven commercials and kids learned nothing).

    I told my wife just last week I think its hypocritical that the FCC and parents attacked cartoons and cereal so badly for us to end up with the whole E/I thing, but yet its A-OK to run penis enlargement, are your parents in debt, and make money by selling your gold commercials during kids programming
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    Quote Originally Posted by markatisu View Post
    I told my wife just last week I think its hypocritical that the FCC and parents attacked cartoons and cereal so badly for us to end up with the whole E/I thing, but yet its A-OK to run penis enlargement, are your parents in debt, and make money by selling your gold commercials during kids programming
    Quoted for truth. Worst part is that a couple of these E/I shows for kids have TOYLINES and other merchandise... Yet MotU, TF, and GI Joe were " 22 minute evil toy commercials with no redeeming qualities"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by markatisu View Post
    It's just sad that for most networks in 2011, the only real childrens programming they are buying is older programming we grew up with. Even on cable you only have Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network that are making new programming.

    Great for us, but I long for the days when toys drove cartoons and there was a desire for kids to use their imagination (instead of the claim that cartoons were just toy driven commercials and kids learned nothing).

    I told my wife just last week I think its hypocritical that the FCC and parents attacked cartoons and cereal so badly for us to end up with the whole E/I thing, but yet its A-OK to run penis enlargement, are your parents in debt, and make money by selling your gold commercials during kids programming
    While you make excellent points, there is an inherent difference between the kinds of adult commercials you are talking about and creating television series geared only to sell toys to young and impressionable minds.

    I was there in the 80s and it was a great time to be working in children's entertainment, btw, surrounded by geniuses like Haim Saban, Andy Heyward and Jean Chalopin, towering figures in children's entertainment who I was fortunate to be mentored by. And although it is true that many series came about because the series were originally based upon toylines, I will say overwhelmingly that while the toy manufacturers I and other writers worked with -- Mattel, Hasbro, Kenner, American Greetings and others -- recognized that a good series would sell toys, they also understood that kids would only lock into the series and buy the toys if the series was good. So there was very little pressure on us to 'push the line'. Indeed, as I've said in other posts, the Mattel executives I was fortunate to work with -- Kaaren Lee Brown and Deborah Galliani not only understood the creative process, but granted plenty of creative latitude. It was, then, a pleasant relationship, this relationship between writers and toy manufacturers. We writers were concerned about creating quality entertainment. Toy manufacturers were interested in selling toys. Serendipitously we found that by each of us serving our own purposes, independent of the other, that we would benefit each other -- i.e., we got to write great series, the series sold toys and the toy manufacturers funded our writing of more series. Of all the writers I've known in children's entertainment -- and I've known plenty -- I cannot think of a single one who just sold out and wrtoe for the bucks and to sell a toy line, without caring about the effect that his or her writing would have on children.

    The truth is that much of the pressure to do 'thirty minute commercials' came from the animation studios themselves and from their desire to lock in a series. I well remember one day sitting in my office and an exec came in and told me that she wanted to me to create a series based on Capt'n Crunch. When I laughed, thinking she was joking, she put a box of the cereal on my desk and said she was serious. I remember walking into Andy Heyward's office and telling him, "This is where I draw the line." To his credit, Andy -- who was unquestionably the king of merchandise-driven entertainment at the time -- laughed and said, "I'm with you" and we dropped the development. But while that may (hopefully) be an amusing anecdote, the truth also is that such occurrences were few and far between. Mostly, in those days, when we developed a series based upon a toyline it was a quality line and not some sugar coated cereal.

    The danger, I think, is when a concept is developed -- whether it's based on cereal or candy -- only for the blantant goal of pushing merchandise. There's something sleazy about it and when you work with children there's an inherent responsibility and obligation to create positive entertainment. I think it's a responsibility and obligation almost all of my fellow children's entertainment writers take very seriously.

    If the shows of the 80s were a kind of 'golden age' of children's entertainment -- and I think they were -- it was largely due to a coming together of writers and toy manufacturers who (each for their own reasons) understood that a show would only work if it was quality entertainment.

    Perhaps a bit immodestly, I'll say that I think now, two decades later, HUB's and other broadcasters' continuing broadcast of episodes we all wrote back then bears testament to the quality of those series...and to our steadfast determination to embrace our responsibility and obligation to children.
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    This is great!I actually get this channel on Direct TV.Thanks for the heads up griffen112182.
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    cool I didn't know about the MIB series being on. As for the others... it's cool that they're back on tv but I alrady have them all on DVD.

    apparently the reason so many Hasbro based shows are on is because Hasbro actually owns 50% of the network now.
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    Wow! This station is more Cartoon Network than the actual Cartoon Network!

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    This is gonna be excellent, I can't wait to have Fraggle Rock back on television....I have the complete series too , but will really enjoy showing it to my niece.
    I loved growing up in the 80's....wish my kids someday could experience the same thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Of_Destruction View Post
    As for the others... it's cool that they're back on tv but I already have them all on DVD.
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    I can't wait to have Fraggle Rock back on television....I have the complete series too , but will really enjoy showing it to my niece.
    I'm so pleased too that Fraggle Rock has found a new broadcast home. Many of the owners of the DVDs, I'd bet, are we fans who already have the show's values in their hearts. The world today needs this show, and it inspires me that at least one segment of a new generation of children will discover this wonderful altrustic series.
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    Fraggle Rock -- Gawd, if you wait long enough everything (thankfully in many cases) comes back again.

    I so agree about the values in this series -- and in many series from that era. The Littles, Kissyfur, LadyLovelyLocks -- a show that I created and loved writing every episode for -- and (perhaps again a bit immodestly) NA. These were shows that had positive messages and values contained inside strong entertainment... and what's wrong with that?

    It's a joy to see the pendulum starting to swing back to a kinder, gentler time. And many present day series like Caillou, Yo Gabba Gabba and EVERYTHING on PBS Sprout (if it was up to me I'd put Nina and Star from The Goodnight Show up for sainthood) that are directed at very young viewers give me renewed.

    Everything begins with the children and for too long we've neglected our most precious asset and forgotten the words "And a small child shall lead them"...and precisely what that means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    Fraggle Rock -- Gawd, if you wait long enough everything (thankfully in many cases) comes back again.

    I so agree about the values in this series -- and in many series from that era. The Littles, Kissyfur, LadyLovelyLocks -- a show that I created and loved writing every episode for -- and (perhaps again a bit immodestly) NA. These were shows that had positive messages and values contained inside strong entertainment... and what's wrong with that?
    You created LadyLovelyLocks? Wow, cool!

    Yeah, so many great shows from back then. I just love Jim Henson's vision of Fraggle Rock as a series "that will bring peace to the world", and how lovingly and beautifully it was carried out. I honestly think it was the best "children's" series ever created (I use quotes because IMO it can be enjoyed by so many adults as well---or at least those in touch with their inner child---due to the great production values, the integrity of the writing and characters, the dynamic music, spectacular set design and dressing, etc. etc. etc...)


    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    It's a joy to see the pendulum starting to swing back to a kinder, gentler time. And many present day series like Caillou, Yo Gabba Gabba and EVERYTHING on PBS Sprout (if it was up to me I'd put Nina and Star from The Goodnight Show up for sainthood) that are directed at very young viewers give me renewed.
    I like Nina and Star Star. They make me feel like I'm a little child again, all safe and warm at home, like you just had a bath and you're watching them before bedtime, and your parents are around providing safety and security just by being there. I sometimes watch them when I catch re-runs of DragonTales, another show I think was utterly well-done, and reminds me of those good ol' '80s cartoons we all love so much---great stories, individual characters, vivid colors, fun music...*sigh*...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mer-Man's Minion View Post
    You created LadyLovelyLocks? Wow, cool!

    Yeah, so many great shows from back then. I just love Jim Henson's vision of Fraggle Rock as a series "that will bring peace to the world", and how lovingly and beautifully it was carried out. I honestly think it was the best "children's" series ever created (I use quotes because IMO it can be enjoyed by so many adults as well---or at least those in touch with their inner child---due to the great production values, the integrity of the writing and characters, the dynamic music, spectacular set design and dressing, etc. etc. etc...)




    I like Nina and Star Star. They make me feel like I'm a little child again, all safe and warm at home, like you just had a bath and you're watching them before bedtime, and your parents are around providing safety and security just by being there. I sometimes watch them when I catch re-runs of DragonTales, another show I think was utterly well-done, and reminds me of those good ol' '80s cartoons we all love so much---great stories, individual characters, vivid colors, fun music...*sigh*...
    Yep:

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    I'm definitely with you on Nina and Star. Sometimes, after a day in the entertainment industry when I feel like a weary version of Leonidas battling Xerxes and his Persian horde, I'll turn on The Good Night Show just to remember there's still kindness and gentleness in the world. I adore Nina and Star and I have an unbound gratitude to them for what they bring to my youngest child...and to me.

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    Well damn, looks like we don't get this channel. Hopefully, it'll get added soon.

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    Hey guys I made some changes to the listings in my first post, my DVR's guide got a lot more of the week in a recent update and except for saturday as of this post I have most of the basic schedule.



    Also a major apology, I got the wrong batman show listed, Batman Beyond is correct but the other Batman show is actually The Adam West 60's era show. This is great because I already watch Brave and the Bold on Cartoon Network, which I fell is a direct continuing of this show. Also when I was growing up, when this was a rerun in the 80's, He was my Batman. The first two episodes feature the Riddler(Frank Gorshin) and the next two have the Penguin(Burgess Meredith). I had made the mistake because my guide also used to list the Kevin Conroy animated batman series under the same name.



    As for the Fraggle's, I hope they also air the cartoon series that followed and maybe throw in the Muppet Show and Muppet's Tonight. I even hope they throw in Jim Henson presents or whatever the show was called that Henson hosted himself in the Early 90's. Heck, I will even take Muppet Babies as long as I get some muppets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffen112182 View Post
    Also a major apology, I got the wrong batman show listed, Batman Beyond is correct but the other Batman show is actually The Adam West 60's era show. This is great because I already watch Brave and the Bold on Cartoon Network, which I fell is a direct continuing of this show. Also when I was growing up, when this was a rerun in the 80's, He was my Batman. The first two episodes feature the Riddler(Frank Gorshin) and the next two have the Penguin(Burgess Meredith). I had made the mistake because my guide also used to list the Kevin Conroy animated batman series under the same name.
    even better, i say. don't get me wrong, i LOVE batman: tas. i just already have it all on dvd. the 60s show is also great, but i don't have any of that on dvd.

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    I've got my DVR setup on about 4 those shows and I can't wait as its been bothering me to hurry up and get to 10-10 so I can watch some really great TV that meant something but what would be cool IF possible is to see some He-man and She-ra on their too but I know Mattel owns those but it would be a great thought though.

    Thats exactly what I thought too and I am MORE excited about this network then when I first got dish and turned on toon and seen crap on that channel that I hated and didn't even like to watch.
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    I love how they all start at the beginning too, hopefully many people with tune in and DVR to get it some nice ratings.
    I loved growing up in the 80's....wish my kids someday could experience the same thing....

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    Found another cartoon heir airing on the HUB. On saturdays and sundays they will be airing "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?". The cartoon that was made for Fox network back in the mid to early 90's. To bad it isn't the game show, I loved that theme song.

    Main plot of the cartoon is "The User"(a real kid) is playing the Carmen San Diego game and trying to stop her and her wacky henchmen. He had two agent at his disposal, a brother-sister team, Zack and Ivy. There was also the dis-embodied head that was known as "The Chief". It was cool and of course it is on those educational but still has a good story kind of shows.

    Hope this helps any fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffen112182 View Post
    Found another cartoon heir airing on the HUB. On saturdays(maybe other days?) they will be airing "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?". The cartoon that was made for Fox network back in the mid to early 90's. To bad it isn't the game show, I loved that theme song.

    Main plot of the cartoon is "The User"(a real kid) is playing the Carmen San Diego game and trying to stop her and her wacky henchmen. He had two agent at his disposal, a brother-sister team, Zack and Ivy. There was also the dis-embodied head that was known as "The Chief". It was cool and of course it is on those educational but still has a good story kind of shows.

    Hope this helps any fans.
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    I watched it change from Discovery Kids to Hub at 10am this morning. Pretty cool. I watched the Hasbro Family Game Night gameshow and that wasnt bad at all. Really looking forward to Transformers, G.I.Joe, Family Ties, Wonder Years, etc....

    This is quickly at the top of my favorite channels.
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    I wanted G.I. Joe and Transformers to start tonight! Just gotta wait til tomorrow I guess :P
    I loved growing up in the 80's....wish my kids someday could experience the same thing....

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    I really can't believe what great shows are on there! I was so excited to see Fraggle Rock on there. I haven't watched that in years.

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