Reply With QuoteMost people will want this version as well because it'se defective and thus a variant. You have to have every version ever made to be complete.
It's not that noticeable to me. So for me it's a non-issue.
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Most people will want this version as well because it'se defective and thus a variant. You have to have every version ever made to be complete.
I've been back and forth internally about this.
While it's not as visible as, say, 2 left feet, the problem is that we're paying $20 for a piece in an ADULT COLLECTOR'S LINE.
The shoddy quality control in GENERAL is the real issue here, not just this particular instance.
I think that's what gets me the most, Mattel's apathy. They STILL don't have a QC person on the floor in the factory? Really?
Beyond that, TG's penchant to ignore things like this. Just look at the "Ask Matty" section of MC's site and how many questions have no answers...
Apathy. As long as we buy, they don't change. If we don't buy, we miss out on what they DO do correctly. Mattel holds all of the cards, and they know it.
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I'm sure we will get an official comment on October 16th.Originally Posted by Lookie
This is very bad though. I thought Mattel said they were going to do something so this sort of shoulder fiasco would never happen again?
Anyway, I think the shoulders may get stress/wear marks if we move his arms too much now, because it does look like it is a very tight fit at the back.
QC was getting better, but ever since the production increase started with She-Ra...it's slipped quite a bit. Is it just me, or are others noticing this as well?
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Are there any other Roboto reviews on the web except of Pixel Dan's review? I haven't seen any. Did anybody mention the shoulders in a review? And didn't Dan say that he will come back and tell us more about the shoulders?I'm sure we will get an official comment on October 16th.
They were all told to be silent
The first TF movie leader class Prime had his upper arms reversed.
The first movie leader class Megatron had the spring mechanism in the wrong arm (or was missing one in his right arm, take your pick).
The ROTF preview Bumblebee is a mess to transform due to mold decay.
Hasbro has it's own share of QC issues.
Fictional characters are just that. Fictional. They have no personality or free will of their own.
Writers and editors mold them to their own wants and needs.
All we as the audience and fans can do is pick and choose our favorite interpretation and ignore the rest.
I do not like to say it - but it seem like that.They were all told to be silent
Dan's is currently the only one! TheFwoosh and AFI usually receive their figures first, but they don't have reviews up yet.
PD did say he would post pictures and such yesterday, so hopefully he'll chime in today.
That's true, but they're much better with replacements. I've been battling with MattyCollector to get a Gygor replacement, but they want me to pay shipping (which is at least $30) to ship him back. I'm not pleased.
When I got a Star Wars figure with two left arms, Hasbro sent me pre-paid mailing labels and I received a whole BOXSET of Star Wars figures because they no longer had the figure in stock. That was pretty darn awesome!
NECA also sent me a new He-Man because my SDCC one had two right feet.
Mattel DID just send me a new Wun-Dar figure when he came with loose joints, bent accessories and missing paint...but now they are being extremely difficult and unreasonable.
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Nice to hear about replacements.That's true, but they're much better with replacements. I've been battling with MattyCollector to get a Gygor replacement, but they want me to pay shipping (which is at least $30) to ship him back. I'm not pleased.
When I got a Star Wars figure with two left arms, Hasbro sent me pre-paid mailing labels and I received a whole BOXSET of Star Wars figures because they no longer had the figure in stock. That was pretty darn awesome!
NECA also sent me a new He-Man because my SDCC one had two right feet.
Mattel DID just send me a new Wun-Dar figure when he came with loose joints, bent accessories and missing paint...but now they are being extremely difficult and unreasonable.
Personally I've never done any (weather Mattel or Hasbro), mostly because I'm an international buyer.
And I do think that, as a whole, Hasbro's the better toy company.
Fictional characters are just that. Fictional. They have no personality or free will of their own.
Writers and editors mold them to their own wants and needs.
All we as the audience and fans can do is pick and choose our favorite interpretation and ignore the rest.
I know...I've been looking repeatedly, but it seems like Dan has beaten everyone so far.
Other than wanting to compare shoulders in other reviews this makes me happy. Dan deserves to get the first review in once in awhile. Still a bit surprised Toyguru hasn't said anything.
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Iīm also waiting for a statement from matty...
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Me too, I really want to read their excuse for another bad QC this time.
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Personally I do think there's a bit of an over-reaction to this. I agree with another poster when they said that the circuitry pattern facing the other way hardly ruins the entire figure - it really is a very minor element of the figure. The pattern is merely meant to indicate that there's some robotic circuitry there - it's not meant to be a factual engineering diagram!!
This is a reply to Catra's Wrath the Matty Moderator.
I'm sorry but this isn't an over reaction. The Fans do not want to buy defective product. I'm paying close to 30.00 per figure. This isn't some little screw up, where a paint app was missed, the figure was put together wrong.
I saw that they are closing threads relating to Roboto's shoulders over at the Matty site. Something really stinks here. I sure hope they address this and not just sweep this under the rug like they did with Goddess's problems.
I find her recent comments pretty insulting, especially this one -
"the figure is not defective, it simply isn't absolutely identical to the original that's all. Using the word defective makes out that there's an inherent fault with the figure, and there isn't."
The Four Horsemen sculpted Roboto a certain way, and now that sculpt has been altered due to it being assembled incorrectly.
How is that not a fault?
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I see Mattel PR is on par with their QC.
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Not digging that too much. The bicep-shoulder gap looks a bit awkward to me. Hopefully the tricep doesn't scrape the shoulder, or the controversial wire.
I'll probably still be fine with it, but now it bugs me slightly more than just the principle, or at least it may bug me if the fit seems awkward in hand.
I'm positive nothing can be done at this time, and its probably fine, I just hope that it doesn't happen again.
Well I guess by Catra's Wrath Answers so Far. I can guess how Mattel is going to play this one out. They are not going to say This is the way it is supposed to be are they? I saw some one over at Matty said something funny about us to Keep Checking the BIO"S for news about Robotos Backwards Shoulders.
I agree the direction of the wires isn't a big issue: it's not necessary that it all connect up and so forth, it's just wiring to indicate he's a robot. No biggie.
The issue is that having the shoulders reversed leaves an ugly gap and could possibly hinder movement.
And wrong is wrong. That's always a "big deal" when you're talking this kind of dough.
Thank god I wasn't getting one. I have no doubt they'll address this by saying it's how it was meant to be. Which is nonsense.
I know many of you are upset about Roboto's shoulders, and you have every right to voice your opinion. Just be careful that we do not cross the line into personal insults geared towards ToyGuru or any of the Matty forum mods. We need to show them respect, as we would expect from them.
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You would think that after the first issue He-Man shoulder debacle, Mattel would have instigated a series of checks to guarantee no more incorrect part placement on these figures.
Hey, Toyguru, want to hire me to do so? Someone is not doing their job right at your company. Just saying, it's quite apparent that your customers are more on the ball than the Mattel employees.
If anything, hopefully this will guarantee a rerelease with corrected shoulders and a removable left hand.
It still makes me scratch my head why Prince Adam had his sword holster removed or how Roboto's shoulders were reversed and his left hand was not made removable.
Toyguru, who is in charge of these mistakes? Can I have his job?
Has anyone posted that pic from PD's review for Catra's Wrath to see how the bicep will scrape the shoulder?
I wonder if Catra's Wrath's answer is still the same, when taking that into account. This is more than just the circuits being backwards.
Hah! I love that people are so upset about something so unimportant they didn't notice until someone pointed it out to them. So funny.
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