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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    I'm not sure what Prime does in the third movie but I feel his executing an unarmed Decepticon on the ground in ROTF was very un-Prime-like to me.
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    I don't think either Autobots OR Decepticons take prisoners in Bayformers (You see what the Decepticons do with defeated Autobots in TF3). Besides, Demolishor transformed and attacked first and then killed many people escaping from NEST and the Autobots. Finally he didn't "pull over" when Prime gave him a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    I'm not sure what Prime does in the third movie but I feel his executing an unarmed Decepticon on the ground in ROTF was very un-Prime-like to me. Hell, even most action movies make it so the hero has to kill the villain since he has no other choice. I can't think of many movies where the hero who the audience is supposed to like just shoots a defenseless person in the head.
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    Prime kills Megatron and Sentinel in (if they'd been human) super gruesome fashion, and then two seconds later delivers the film's closing speech about their future on earth, living with the humans, etc. and I'm sitting there like "Are you frakking serious? Thanks for the moral, Face-splitter Prime! "
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    "Punk-ass Decepticon!"

    I don't think either Autobots OR Decepticons take prisoners in Bayformers (You see what the Decepticons do with defeated Autobots in TF3). Besides, Demolishor transformed and attacked first and then killed many people escaping from NEST and the Autobots. Finally he didn't "pull over" when Prime gave him a chance.
    Yeah, they are very much soldiers in the movies. They have been battling for millennia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zodak74 View Post
    The big swinging robot testicles in T2 pretty much sums up the entire Bayformers' movie franchise. But that's just me...
    I guess I'm the opposite--instead of wrecking ball testicles and humping dogs, I focused on the awesome things. When I think of ROTF, I think of the cool opening where the Autobots are going after Demolishor and Sideways, the Forest Battle scene where Optimus takes on Megatron, Grindor and Starscream in the woods, the Constructicons forming Devastator, Optimus' "Super Mode" (although I wish Jetfire had merged with him instead of Prime wearing his dead parts) and when Sam and Mikaela are quietly hiding from the Decepticons in the Egyptian village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I guess I'm the opposite--instead of wrecking ball testicles and humping dogs, I focused on the awesome things. When I think of ROTF, I think of the cool opening where the Autobots are going after Demolishor and Sideways, the Forest Battle scene where Optimus takes on Megatron, Grindor and Starscream in the woods, the Constructicons forming Devastator, Optimus' "Super Mode" (although I wish Jetfire had merged with him instead of Prime wearing his dead parts) and when Sam and Mikaela are quietly hiding from the Decepticons in the Egyptian village.
    Then what you need to do is get yourself some nice editing software and when the third one comes to home video, you make yourself a nice cut of all three with all the tripe cut out, get that re-released into theatres, and you might have a masterpiece on your hands... LOL!

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    Went to see this today to get it over with, hoping it would be better than the second one, but still having an open mind.

    This one is based on the 1960's space race. The Cold War really works with these types of movies, such as The Watchmen and X-Men: First Class. Some alien space craft landed on the moon, causing President Kennedy to start a space race to find out what it was before the Russians do.

    Fast forward to today the Auto Bots are working for the U.S. military around the world and at the same time keeping a lookout for any Decepticon activities. Sam is out of college and out of work, living with his new girlfriend, has had no contact with the Auto Bots since they started working overseas. On one of the missions, Optimus Prime discovers a piece of his old mentor, Sentinel Prime and travels back to the moon to revive him. Anything past that are pretty much spoilers, so there's your basic setup.

    So is the movie good? It's better than the second one. It's not offensive or stupid, although there's awkward Michael Bay humor sprinkled through out, but nothing groan worthy. It's extremely human heavy. The robots on both sides have very little screen time and don't actually fight each other til the last 20 minutes of a three hour film. It's military heavy I suppose. I kept wondering what exactly were Optimus Prime, Sentinel Prime, Megatron and others were doing off screen during most of the movie.

    How about the new Megan Fox? Well it's obvious what Bay's type of women are and what he feels their purpose is in a movie. Just like in Sam's college last time, there are super models sprinkled as normal people at Sam's workplace.

    So did I even like the movie? Some of it. It felt more like a promotional video for the military with some Transformers thrown in between. It was just really long to set up and I wasn't interested after a while. I think the magic and campiness from the first one are all but gone, luckily so is the offensive unfunny humor from the second one, and all you're left with is huge budget war movie.

    I didn't hate it, I kind of liked it. I wouldn't recommend it unless you're just a die hard fan of the last two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I guess I'm the opposite--instead of wrecking ball testicles and humping dogs, I focused on the awesome things. When I think of ROTF, I think of the cool opening where the Autobots are going after Demolishor and Sideways, the Forest Battle scene where Optimus takes on Megatron, Grindor and Starscream in the woods, the Constructicons forming Devastator, Optimus' "Super Mode" (although I wish Jetfire had merged with him instead of Prime wearing his dead parts) and when Sam and Mikaela are quietly hiding from the Decepticons in the Egyptian village.
    so kind of like geek-porn ff through the story get to the action! I'll admit it's cool seeing the giant bots even though I don't like the general designs, but in ROTF the fights felt too "light' I don't mean in terms of violence or content, but it just didn't feel to me like there was a weight to the fighting hard to explain, but for lack of a good analogy it seemed like feathers delivering the blows, not mega-tonne robots. in the DOTM trailer when prime is spinning in traffic with his blades and slicing up cons, it feels so airy. (thus far my favourite Bayformer scenes are scorponok's attack in the opening of 1 most of the barricade bumblebee fight in part 1 and the traffic fight with prime in part 1. )

    Does anything in this one measure up to those?
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    I’m seeing it on Sunday. I’m remaining level-headed, but I’m cautiously optimistic. I really like the first Transformers film, and whereas I do like bits of the second one (like the way they treated the Transformers and the action scenes), I do acknowledge that it has serious issues as a film. Like some of the comments here, a lot of comments I’ve read elsewhere state that it’s the most G1-feeling one of them all. I don’t know much of what to expect, but because I’m an idiot I accidently read about Sentinel Prime a few months ago. Yeah, I’m a fool.

    Still, people who really don’t like the Michael Bay films should have cause to be quite excited. He’s maintained time and time again that this is his last film; Shia has reiterated that he won’t be back as well. I think that spells “reboot”. I must admit, I am very curious to see what a new director and production team can bring to a Transformers film. Maybe give the Transformers meatier roles as characters as appose to just special effects?

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    My favorite scene in the Bayformers movies involves Bumblebee. No, it's not when he "urinated" on John Turturro or destroyed "Brawl". It's at the ending of the first movie where he lets "Spike" lay on top of him so he can make out with Megan Fox. Only a real friend would let you do that.

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    Sadly, I have to say that this movie could have been so much better. However, it basically felt like the first half was how pathetic Sam's life was, and then the rest of it was a sloppy plot stew of G1's 'Megatron's Master Plan' and 'The Ultimate Doom'. Honestly, they should have just made the movie version of 'The Ultimate Doom' and it would have made so much more sense.





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    I thought it was pretty good overall -a little too much human instead of robot action as usual but better storyline.

    I did do a facepalm when Sentinel Prime actually said word for word "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" That line had to have been added after they signed Leonard Nemoy on. Especially when you stop to think about it. He was using it to justify sacrificing the human race to revive the Cybertronian race -but the Cybertronians are practically extinct. There are at best a few thousand of them left while the human race numbers in the billions.

    Other nitpicks:

    • Laserbeak looked cool but since when does he talk and how can he just turn into anything?
    • a better explanation for why Sam and Mikela broke up was needed
    • on that note why is Wheelie with Sam when his loyalty was to Mikela why didn't he stay with her?
    • aside from the initial shock no one seemed to give Ironhide's death much thought
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    I saw it and, similar to how I felt after ROTF, I just don't see how it was any worse or better than the other 2 movies. The crude humor was still in it, talented actors were wasted on pathetic roles(poor John Malkovich & Frances McDormand), women were treated like meat by Bay's camera, I didn't know who was who(except for a few Autobots, all of the robots were silver & quite similar looking), and the action scenes looked like a tornado at a junkyard. There were a few death scenes where I wasn't even sure who just died. I'm sure it will be a huge success and I'll just have to weep for our society. If all of humanity died tomorrow, knowing that movies like this are popular makes me realize it would just be a case of survival of the fittest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    I saw it and, similar to how I felt after ROTF, I just don't see how it was any worse or better than the other 2 movies. The crude humor was still in it, talented actors were wasted on pathetic roles(poor John Malkovich & Frances McDormand), women were treated like meat by Bay's camera, I didn't know who was who(except for a few Autobots, all of the robots were silver & quite similar looking), and the action scenes looked like a tornado at a junkyard. There were a few death scenes where I wasn't even sure who just died. I'm sure it will be a huge success and I'll just have to weep for our society. If all of humanity died tomorrow, knowing that movies like this are popular makes me realize it would just be a case of survival of the fittest.
    LOL - you do realize this is pretty ironic if you paid to go see it after feeling exactly the same way about the last two, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonWes View Post
    LOL - you do realize this is pretty ironic if you paid to go see it after feeling exactly the same way about the last two, right?
    I didn't pay to see it. I had a free coupon since there was a problem with a movie I saw a couple weeks ago. Plus, Alanis, I'm not sure that would be considered "ironic" anyways. Movies that are box office successes usually rely on multiple viewings. This was one & done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    I didn't pay to see it. I had a free coupon since there was a problem with a movie I saw a couple weeks ago. Plus, Alanis, I'm not sure that would be considered "ironic" anyways. Movies that are box office successes usually rely on multiple viewings. This was one & done.
    So you just wasted your time to go see a movie that is representative of the downfall of society, not your money. Got it. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonWes View Post
    So you just wasted your time to go see a movie that is representative of the downfall of society, not your money. Got it. :P
    I'm funny that way. I like to see a movie before having an opinion on its quality. Having seen it, I am now qualified to say it's a ****ing piece of ****. A cinematic cancer that hurt my soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    I saw it and, similar to how I felt after ROTF, I just don't see how it was any worse or better than the other 2 movies. The crude humor was still in it, talented actors were wasted on pathetic roles(poor John Malkovich & Frances McDormand), women were treated like meat by Bay's camera, I didn't know who was who(except for a few Autobots, all of the robots were silver & quite similar looking), and the action scenes looked like a tornado at a junkyard. There were a few death scenes where I wasn't even sure who just died. I'm sure it will be a huge success and I'll just have to weep for our society. If all of humanity died tomorrow, knowing that movies like this are popular makes me realize it would just be a case of survival of the fittest.
    Less toilet humor than ROTF, which automatically makes it better than that movie. It's STILL a Bayformers movie.

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    so kind of like geek-porn ff through the story get to the action! I'll admit it's cool seeing the giant bots even though I don't like the general designs, but in ROTF the fights felt too "light' I don't mean in terms of violence or content, but it just didn't feel to me like there was a weight to the fighting hard to explain, but for lack of a good analogy it seemed like feathers delivering the blows, not mega-tonne robots. in the DOTM trailer when prime is spinning in traffic with his blades and slicing up cons, it feels so airy. (thus far my favourite Bayformer scenes are scorponok's attack in the opening of 1 most of the barricade bumblebee fight in part 1 and the traffic fight with prime in part 1. )

    Does anything in this one measure up to those?
    That's on purpose, Krys. The idea is that these big heavy robots can move quickly and skillfully despite their larger size.

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    I’m seeing it on Sunday. I’m remaining level-headed, but I’m cautiously optimistic. I really like the first Transformers film, and whereas I do like bits of the second one (like the way they treated the Transformers and the action scenes), I do acknowledge that it has serious issues as a film. Like some of the comments here, a lot of comments I’ve read elsewhere state that it’s the most G1-feeling one of them all. I don’t know much of what to expect, but because I’m an idiot I accidently read about Sentinel Prime a few months ago. Yeah, I’m a fool.
    LOL! I didn't read anything and I was pretty surprised!!

    Still, people who really don’t like the Michael Bay films should have cause to be quite excited. He’s maintained time and time again that this is his last film; Shia has reiterated that he won’t be back as well. I think that spells “reboot”. I must admit, I am very curious to see what a new director and production team can bring to a Transformers film. Maybe give the Transformers meatier roles as characters as appose to just special effects?
    Unless they start making 90 minute movies, the Transformers can't take up the majority of the screentime.

    I suppose that since this is Bay and Shia's final film, that maybe Hasbro will reboot TF yet again and make a more G1-like movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonWes View Post
    LOL - you do realize this is pretty ironic if you paid to go see it after feeling exactly the same way about the last two, right?
    At least he gave it a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Less toilet humor than ROTF, which automatically makes it better than that movie. It's STILL a Bayformers movie.
    The "hero's" mother talks about the size of his penis. That's probably worse than the toilet humor of the other 2 movies.

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    At least he gave it a chance.
    Since I'm being overly dramatic with my complaints(more for my entertainment than any deep seated anger that kept me up all night), I will say that, in spite of the fact that the designs make it difficult to tell what you are looking at, the special effects looked good(especially on Cybertron). I also liked Patrick Dempsey, the red robot with the blades, and, for some reason that escapes me, I find Shia LaBeouf's nervous speed talking & feminine screaming funny. I think he is bad at picking scripts & comes off as a jerkoff in interviews, but I think the kid has talent.
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    Saw it last night. It was cool but there was little characterization and some was needed. There were more emotional scenes in this one which I liked. Yeah, the film had flaws but I liked it overall.

    I haven't really read the previous comments in this thread so I don't know if this has been brought up but.....

    what is Sam doing with Mikaela's dog?
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    I thought this review on from aintitcoolnews summed things up rather nicely:
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    Quote Originally Posted by zodak74 View Post
    I thought this review on from aintitcoolnews summed things up rather nicely:
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    The article by Ambush Bug was pretty spot on too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    The article by Ambush Bug was pretty spot on too.
    I felt the same thing. Both of those reviews "spoke to me" when I read them last night.

    The sad thing is I used to enjoy Michael Bay's movies(I LOVED The Rock & the first Bad Boys). Either I've matured(considering I'm a daily visitor to a He-Man fansite, I doubt that's it) or he's gotten worse. I first noticed this around the time of Bad Boys 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    The "hero's" mother talks about the size of his penis. That's probably worse than the toilet humor of the other 2 movies.
    You mean, that beat Devastator's balls?

    His mother talked about him ************ in 1 and losing his viriginity in 2. If anything, it's consistent.

    Since I'm being overly dramatic with my complaints(more for my entertainment than any deep seated anger that kept me up all night), I will say that, in spite of the fact that the designs make it difficult to tell what you are looking at, the special effects looked good(especially on Cybertron). I also liked Patrick Dempsey, the red robot with the blades, and, for some reason that escapes me, I find Shia LaBeouf's nervous speed talking & feminine screaming funny. I think he is bad at picking scripts & comes off as a jerkoff in interviews, but I think the kid has talent.
    That red robot --Dino (or Mirage)--kicked ass!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    That red robot --Dino (or Mirage)--kicked ass!
    I know nothing about the character, but why the name change? I'm assuming Mirage is a G1 name. Was this another case of Bay just liking one name better even if the movie toys are labeled differently?
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    I liked it a lot more then "Revenge of the Fallen". I see Prime is not much of a believer in political prisoners

    It's also always welcome to hear some Leonard Nimoy voice acting.

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