What makes a real Batman movie for you?
Finally saw it tonight. It was about what I was expecting. It was passable for an enjoyable movie, but just like the two that came before it, it just didn't feel like a real "Batman" movie... almost like it could have been about any superhero. I did enjoy all the "No Man's Land" stuff though.
What makes a real Batman movie for you?
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I finally got around to seeing Dark Knight Rises. I know there's a lot of fanboy hate for Hardy's bane, but I enjoyed his portrayal of the character and thought it was very well done.
In a lot of ways, feel that this movie has a slight edge over Dark Knight.
JGL and Hathaway were fantastic and ran away with the film.
I managed to stay away from all the spoilers and was able to walk in and let the film completely unfold without any knowledge of what was to come.
The only thing I didn't like is that Alfred and Bruce's relationship dissolves completely. Yes, I know that Bruce takes Selena to Florence as way to say goodbye to Alfred, but he's the only family that Bruce has left. That's the only part of the film that didn't feel right to me.
Finally got to see the movie last night. I thought it was a very good film - it felt complete and there wasn't a part where I felt bored or sick of the storyline. There was plenty of action and backstory and I liked how all the 2 films before it linked in with this one and went full circle. The acting was also very good - Bane's voice took some getting used to and could have been a bit more clearer - but on the whole an awesome and imposing villan.
On a side note, was Selina Kyle ever called or acknowledged as "Catwoman" in the movie? I thought she was OK - still prefer Michelle's version of Catwoman though.
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"Catwoman" was never used, though when Bruce is scanning her file in the Batcave, an article pops up referring to her as "The Cat", which was actually the name she first appeared under, way back in her first appearance.
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This is an absolutely extraordinary film. The first two are fantastic, but this one is best of the bunch.
That is all.
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I thought Batman Returns was the last good live-action Batman movie before Begins and face it without both Burton movies, we'd would never have the animated show which was influenced by Burton's movies and the comics combined. Afterall Selina Kyle's design on the first 3 seasons were modeled after Michelle and Michelle is gorgeous you know.
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The Dark Knight trilogy was a great incarnation of Batman and is portrayed as he is meant to be portrayed.
So far my favorite incarnation of Batman is from the Arkham games.
I agree with Blue about the cons. However, I disliked the film for those reasons and other ones so much I give it a 3/10 (one of the worst movies I saw recently).
If this movie wasn't Batman, how would it have done? I think its name helped it a lot.
P.s. So good long jumpers can get a free ticket out of prison? Three thousand cops all go to the sewer, none get sick or even grow facial hair. Bane's voice ... okay I have to stop.
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Just got around to watching the DVD; didn't get anything out of it I missed the first time. Outside of Hathaway as Catwoman, which was a pretty good portrayal, I didn't like it any more than Dark Knight. My problems:
Bane: A classic Bat villain turned into a two bit, somewhat lovesick terrorist actually working for Talia. No vesrion outside the comics, even BTAS, has really done him justice.
Talia: I admit, I didn't see the reveal coming, but it literally came out of nowhere, and only had an impact because I know the comics. A surprise like that only works if you can go back and say, "I should have seen that coming." Nolan has apparently never heard of foreshadowing.
Batman: Nolan has never had a grasp of the character. His Batman is all fists, tech and explosions. THere is none of his deductive abilities,none of his keen mind. He's basically clueless far too mauch of the time. And the idea that he just gave up being Batman for the weak reasons cited really bugged me.
Robin: The weakest "surprise" of all. I actually liked his character more than Batman, but having his name be Robin, another thing just thrown in absently, was more a desperate attempt to throw something from the comics in. The whole movie honestly would have worked better if it had been to set up Batman Beyond and he had actually been Terry McGuiness.
Catwoman: Hathaway did a good job with what she was given, but this part of the story seemed wedged in at random junctures, and wasn't developed well. As with DK, Nolan didn't seem to know quite what he was trying to say with this, or the film as a whole. His message seems to change from scene to scene, and you're left with no real idea what the movie or the characters were all about.
THe story: didn't help that it was "No Man's Land," the ridiculous "Escape from New York" ripoff that caused me to drop the Bat books at the time. A terorrist holding onto the city for a few days, I could see; for weeks or months is ludicrous. And, like DK, the most memorable things in the movie are explosions.
Begins was a good film, not spectacular, but solid. The sequels were a mess, and I'm glad this will be the last Nolan Bat-film. Maybe the next round will be better.
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