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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Justice View Post
    Oh and fantastic work by the way Irian, the time line is exactly what I have been looking for to make sense of all these bios.
    Thank you very much

    And now to something completely different:

    I know the wording and grammar in the timeline is pretty bad , and therefore I would be very glad if you could help me improve the timeline: If you see errors or strange wordings please post in this thread or send me a private message - preferably with a suggestion on how to change it. *g*

    Thanks a lot!

    Edit: Updated the original post with the information from Catra's and BG Teela's bio. I also shuffled events around a bit because I think Teela will take over relatively late as the Sorceress.

    Please, tell me what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irian View Post
    Edit: Updated the original post with the information from Catra's and BG Teela's bio. I also shuffled events around a bit because I think Teela will take over relatively late as the Sorceress.
    I'm glad you updated! Great job! Resources such as your timeline help prove that the bios are a lot better than folks give them credit for!
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    Out of curiosity, why are:

    Man At-Arms creates Faker
    Tri-Klops salvages Faker
    Skeletor orders the reprogramming of Faker

    So late in your time line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pravus Prime View Post
    Out of curiosity, why are:

    Man At-Arms creates Faker
    Tri-Klops salvages Faker
    Skeletor orders the reprogramming of Faker

    So late in your time line?
    On the first page MegaGearMax pointed out that Toyguru once said the creation of Faker happens rather late in the game and guessed it was around the time Randor disappeared.

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    Regarding BG Teela: I have to admit that when updating the original post there was lots of wishful thinking on my part on when Teela would take over.

    Therefore I have updated the original post regarding Hordak's return to Etheria: When Hordak comes to Eternia the "Renegade Masters" plot has to kick in immediately, there cannot be a time where he is just there and She-Ra is still on Etheria.

    BUT I have kept the the defeat of the the Snake Men after the return of the Horde. And I guess that's still wishful thinking.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK: Does the Second Ultimate Battleground and the final defeat of King Hiss happen before or after the return of the Horde?

    I fear it makes more sense if the Snake-men were defeated first...

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    First of all thanks for the great work! Your time line is all sorts of cool!
    As for the Second Ultimate Battleground: I would leave it as it is unless we get any additional information on it. I, too, think the Horde should return first before the Snake Men get defeated.
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    Thanks for this MOTUC timeline! I think the Faker parts are fine where they are unless someone contradicts it. I was unaware that Randor went missing till I read it here, I must have missed that Bio.

    Is there anymore on what happened to Miro?
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    Thanks a lot! I appreciate every comment - it makes it worthwhile to do the timeline!

    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Squad View Post
    Is there anymore on what happened to Miro?
    Not until now. Maybe when we get a Miro figure...

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    great timeline! thanks for all the work.

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    Obviously without any additional info, Do you think Randor or Miro (Assuming either is still alive) could have raised an army wherever they have vanished too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Squad View Post
    Obviously without any additional info, Do you think Randor or Miro (Assuming either is still alive) could have raised an army wherever they have vanished too?
    Well, "here comes the cavalry" is a beloved trope by storytellers everywhere, so I wouldn't be surprised.

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    I really appreciate you doing this timeline, Irian. I like the narrative, but it's heard to re-read with each new material, whereas this lets me know where the new stuff falls in the timeline.
    Good stuff, thanks!
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    I have updated the original post with the bio info for Clawful and the Faceless One.

    Edit: And I have updated the original post with the bio info for Megator and Man-E-faces.

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    Nice work. I would prefer a visual time line though as it would be easier to read and see at a glance. You (or someone else) could put an image from the various media next to each entry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Nice work. I would prefer a visual time line though as it would be easier to read and see at a glance. You (or someone else) could put an image from the various media next to each entry.
    Thanks!

    I must admit though, that I have no idea on how one could visualize the timeline. It's getting quite long.

    Do you have any references?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irian View Post
    Thanks!

    I must admit though, that I have no idea on how one could visualize the timeline. It's getting quite long.

    Do you have any references?
    Well I just meant having a scene from the mini comic or DC comics or something else that might represent each event - eg a pic of the Goddess from the early mini comics etc
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    Awesome job Irian, keep up the good work. I think your on the mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teela-Na View Post
    Well I just meant having a scene from the mini comic or DC comics or something else that might represent each event - eg a pic of the Goddess from the early mini comics etc
    Ahhhh, OK! Let me think about that.

    Edit: I am looking for ideas on how to rearrange the timeline to incorporate the new info from Hurricane Hordak's and Leech's bios. Any suggestion on when Randor disappeared or how the Snake Men's hibernation plays out in the overall context?

    Any help would be welcome! Thanks.

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    The timeline is good overall, but I think the Second Ultimate Battleground is the last thing that happens. TG said that MOTU has an ending and I think that's it.

    Skeletor does appear to "win" and defeat the Horde and take over Eternia and that's when Hurricane Hordak appears. Hordak upgrades himself to fight Skeletor.
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    Well if their sticking to what MYP had planned then at the end of season two part two Skeletor defeats King Hisss, banishes Randor to despondos and Evil Lyn frees Hordak and the Horde. Then in season three Hordak defeats Skeletor to become the ruler of Eternia (in MOTUC he uses his Hurricane Armor to do this) and drives Rattlor the rest of the SnakeMen back into hibernation.
    Eventually by the end of season three Skeletor defeats Hordak and He-Man defeats Skeletor.

    IMO you need to move 'Randor disappears' to the entry before 'Evil-Lyn frees Hordak and Hordak escapes to Eternia'

    Now King Hisss and the Snakemen go into hibernation in order to regenerate again like he did when Zodak defeated him at the end of MYP season two part one. But they have to come back out of hibernation before the Second Ultimate BattleGround and before He-Man travels back to Preternia.
    I'd put something like 'King Hsss and the SnakeMen finish regenerating and come out of hibernation' after 'Skeletor orders the reprogramming of Faker'.
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    If you assume that the Second Ultimate Battleground is the last thing, then you can pretty much fit things in nicely to make sense.

    King Randor's apparent death happens and maybe Man-At-Arms since Clamp Champ is the guy who takes over. It could be also like in the MYP series that Man-At-Arms was converted to a Snake-man and he began to construct technology for the Snakes. Clamp Champ steps up and takes over as the temp "Man-At-Arms."

    This is about when The Sorceress is dying and she trains Teela to take over.

    Queen Marlena takes command of the kingdom while Randor is in Despondos.

    The Horde appear and force the Snake-men into hibernation.

    With the motivation to save Man-At-Arms, He-man knows the Snake-men are going to return and he needs to defeat them once and for all. This is where he goes back in time and fights alongside King Grayskull and is instrumental in the First Ultimate Battleground.

    Skeletor defeats Hordak and takes over Eternia.

    The heroes are forced to go on the run.

    Hordak "upgrades" himself to Hurricane Hordak and tears down Snake Mountain.

    Something happens here where the heroes retake Eternia and we have a "Return of the King" scenario.

    Marlena goes back to Earth and makes a great discovery.

    Then Skeletor goes out to the future to amass his army and recruits the Space Mutants.

    He-man follows and joins the Galactic Protectors.

    Eventually, Skeletor returns with his Space Mutants. He-man returns with Galactic Protectors.

    While they were gone, The Horde had been rebuilding themselves. The Snake-men emerge from their hiding spot. Skeletor has his army. He-man assembles the Masters of the Universe. He-man has the knowledge to defeat the Snake-men. I'm thinking He-man is able to use his knowledge to restore Man-At-Arms. (Either that or he's dead by now) Skeletor has the forces to defeat the Horde. It comes down between He-man versus Skeletor.

    The Second Ultimate Battleground Begins...
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    bskcase - I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head, but I've combine your points with my points from my previous post to show how I think it may go:

    Zodak defeats King Hsss (like in episode 39 of MYP cartoon)

    King Hsss regenerates and Man-At-Arms turned into a SnakeMan for a currently unknown amount of time. (As in MYP unproduced episode 40 script)

    Clamp Champ takes over in Man-At-Arms's absence. Man-At-Arms began to construct technology for the SnakeMen (possibly builds Blast Attack).

    Skeletor defeats King Hsss and Hsss goes in to regeneration

    King Randor's apparent death happens (in reality he has been banished to Despondos by Skeletor)

    The Sorceress she sends He-Man to Despondos to rescue Randor and also gives him the sword of protection to take with him and this is when the Secret of the Sword stuff happens but it is unknown if Randor actually makes it back from Despondos or not.

    Skeletor uses Faker to discredit He-Man then defeats The Masters and takes over Eternia.

    The Masters who are now renegades in there own land are lead by Teela, Clamp Champ and Queen Marlena in the absence of He-Man, Man-At-Arms and Randor.

    The Horde are free by Evil Lyn, defeat Skeletor (by Hordak using his Hurricane armor) taking over Eternia and force the remaining Snake-men (now lead by Rattlor while Hsss is regenerating) into hibernation.

    Skeletor gains the power to defeats his former master Hordak.

    He-Man and She-Ra with several of her friends and allies return to Eternia.

    He-Man and the Masters defeat Skeletor and retake Eternia.

    With the motivation to save Man-At-Arms, He-man knows the Snake-men are going to return one day and he needs to defeat them once and for all. This is where he goes back in time to Preternia and discovers the secret to defeating the SnakeMen.

    He-Man returns from Preternia.

    Marlena goes back to Earth and makes a great discovery.

    Then Skeletor goes out to the future to amass his army and recruits the Space Mutants.

    He-man follows and joins the Galactic Protectors.

    Eventually, Skeletor returns with his Space Mutants. He-man returns with Galactic Protectors.

    While they were gone, The Horde had been rebuilding themselves. The Snake-men and King Hsss wake from hibernation. Skeletor has his army. He-man assembles the Masters of the Universe. He-man has the knowledge to defeat the Snake-men. I'm thinking He-man is able to use his knowledge to restore Man-At-Arms.

    The Second Ultimate Battleground Begins...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 13977 View Post
    bskcase - I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head, but I've combine your points with my points from my previous post to show how I think it may go:

    Zodak defeats King Hsss (like in episode 39 of MYP cartoon)

    King Hsss regenerates and Man-At-Arms turned into a SnakeMan for a currently unknown amount of time. (As in MYP unproduced episode 40 script)

    Clamp Champ takes over in Man-At-Arms's absence. Man-At-Arms began to construct technology for the SnakeMen (possibly builds Blast Attack).

    Skeletor defeats King Hsss and Hsss goes in to regeneration

    King Randor's apparent death happens (in reality he has been banished to Despondos by Skeletor)

    The Sorceress she sends He-Man to Despondos to rescue Randor and also gives him the sword of protection to take with him and this is when the Secret of the Sword stuff happens but it is unknown if Randor actually makes it back from Despondos or not.

    Skeletor uses Faker to discredit He-Man then defeats The Masters and takes over Eternia.

    The Masters who are now renegades in there own land are lead by Teela, Clamp Champ and Queen Marlena in the absence of He-Man, Man-At-Arms and Randor.

    The Horde are free by Evil Lyn, defeat Skeletor (by Hordak using his Hurricane armor) taking over Eternia and force the remaining Snake-men (now lead by Rattlor while Hsss is regenerating) into hibernation.

    Skeletor gains the power to defeats his former master Hordak.

    He-Man and She-Ra with several of her friends and allies return to Eternia.

    He-Man and the Masters defeat Skeletor and retake Eternia.

    With the motivation to save Man-At-Arms, He-man knows the Snake-men are going to return one day and he needs to defeat them once and for all. This is where he goes back in time to Preternia and discovers the secret to defeating the SnakeMen.

    He-Man returns from Preternia.

    Marlena goes back to Earth and makes a great discovery.

    Then Skeletor goes out to the future to amass his army and recruits the Space Mutants.

    He-man follows and joins the Galactic Protectors.

    Eventually, Skeletor returns with his Space Mutants. He-man returns with Galactic Protectors.

    While they were gone, The Horde had been rebuilding themselves. The Snake-men and King Hsss wake from hibernation. Skeletor has his army. He-man assembles the Masters of the Universe. He-man has the knowledge to defeat the Snake-men. I'm thinking He-man is able to use his knowledge to restore Man-At-Arms.

    The Second Ultimate Battleground Begins...

    By The Elders, I think this works. Good job tweaking this.
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    Sorry, guys for taking so long to reply!

    Those are some pretty amazing ideas! Awesome! I think it could work really well that way.

    I am a little reluctant though to have so many speculative elements in it that are not (yet) revealed in the bios...

    Ahh, what the heck, I will do it anyway!

    Thanks bskcase and 13977

    Edit: And done! Please review and post if you want to point out errors or give feedback! Any feedback is welcome!

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    In the timeline I've assembled I've kept the horde coming much earlier. It means that Skeletor, Hsss, Hordak and Heman are all fighting at the same time, which I believe is more reflective of the old toyline. All this leads to the second ultimate battleground. Though we don't have eveidence either way yet.

    The issue about keeping all the Hsss stuff before or during the second ultimate battleground comes down to some awkward grammar in Megator's bio.
    "He served King Hsss and fought against Hordak and the Masters of the Universe in the Second Ultimate Battleground--once again dying on the battlefield."

    Are these two separate thoughts? He served King Hsss. Then he fought in the second UB? And if it's against Hordak and He-man he has to be working for either Hsss or Skeletor.

    It they are not separate it means that Hss is still around for the second UB, changing the order of events somewhat that you guys have above. The main issue that I see with it is that you've posited 3 defeats for King Hsss, seeming to make it overly complicated.

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    This is so great - love it!

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