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    Why is the Shadow beast figure brown when both versions (MYP & Filmation) of the character were a purplish blue colour?
    Was it strictly a 4H preference, or some other reason?

    It is the light (or lack of light) that makes them look purple or blue. Shadowbeasts are brown.
    For some reason, I don't get why people insist, that in Filmation Shadowbeasts were pure purple...



    We see them in clear day-light in "Prince Adam No More" and to me, that looks brown. (maybe it's a cousin-race to the ones we see in "Teela's Quest")
    But point being; they are not merely purpleish in Filmation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super He-Man View Post
    Not a fair comparison IMO. Despite some argument to the contrary, Mattel has made plenty of figures that came out just fine. You make it sound like every figure in the line is screwed up. The ones I have look fine to me. Of course, things like Roboto barely count as an issue to me, so obviously people's definition of "issue" may vary.
    As I said, I don't complain about something going wrong once in a while, or paint not being applied perfectly here and there. I was lucky enough to get no Faker with wrong feet and no broken Goddess. But I don't own a single figure with "He-Man boots" whose ankles are tight. And I seem to have some extremely bad luck this year, cause out of all regular-sited figures being released for the last 7 months, only my Chief Carnivus didn't have any problems at all. I'm rather tired about preparing some hot water for my bent weapons each month anyway. And I don't think that it's acceptable to get Mattel's above reaction when I pay $ 30.- (tax not even included) for extremely loose articulation, bobbleheads, broken parts, and details painted really badly or not at all. As I said, maybe I just had some really bad luck this year with my figures. But that doesn't make Mattel's response about Roboto's quality issues (which are more than just the stupid shoulders) any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jukka View Post
    For some reason, I don't get why people insist, that in Filmation Shadowbeasts were pure purple...
    We see them in clear day-light in "Prince Adam No More" and to me, that looks brown. (maybe it's a cousin-race to the ones we see in "Teela's Quest")
    But point being; they are not merely purpleish in Filmation.
    Yup, it's rather baffling. Maybe their memory tricks them into believing that the Filmation beasts looked the same as the purple beasts from the MYP show? I'd understand complaints if the Horsemen had sculpted the head more in the 200X style. But since the sculpt is totally "Filmation", it makes sense that the beasts are colored brown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukka View Post
    For some reason, I don't get why people insist, that in Filmation Shadowbeasts were pure purple...

    http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...1&d=1288478533

    We see them in clear day-light in "Prince Adam No More" and to me, that looks brown. (maybe it's a cousin-race to the ones we see in "Teela's Quest")
    But point being; they are not merely purpleish in Filmation.
    They're a dark shade of PINK in Prince Adam No More, tending slightly toward purple (sampling the PAL DVD gives #912444 - R:57%, G:14%, B: 27%. Compare to the brown tree branches in the background):


    As for Teela's Quest, well we see them in daylight there too, and they're a definite grayish purple (#371f37 - R:22%,G:12%,B:22%):

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    Well, that is why I stated it needs clarification. The issue I picked up is clearly labeled as 'December 2010'. I was rather excited to see it on the stand as the new release, thinking I may be the first to spot the new fig....*sigh.

    [QUOTE=Reboot;2567723]They're a dark shade of PINK in Prince Adam No More, tending slightly toward purple (sampling the PAL DVD gives #912444 - R:57%, G:14%, B: 27%.

    As for Teela's Quest, well we see them in daylight there too, and they're a definite grayish purple (#371f37 - R:22%,G:12%,B:22%):

    At those saturations, they should be a light violet brown. There is clearly enough green to balance it out. Maybe you TV has a differing color aspect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffrod View Post
    At those saturations, they should be a light violet brown. There is clearly enough green to balance it out. Maybe you TV has a differing color aspect?
    I'm using my laptop PC monitor. And I see the PANM SB as a dark pink, or arguably I suppose a very dull magneta.

    Just for the record though, here's as exact a frame-to-frame match I can get between the R2 DVD and Jukka's (VHS?) cap:



    Jukka's cap looks browner to me, although the Shadowbeast is still less pinkish in that cap than the "let's all laugh at Beastman" one, I s'pose.
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    I guess the next QA issue that pops up can be blamed on logistics,or maybe logistics and the ocasional logistics problem.There's just so many logistical variables to take into account that it makes it logistically impossible to know.

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    Toy Guru is a true politician , like all politicians they dance around the answer .
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnnaMot View Post
    Toy Guru is a true polition , like all politions they dance around the answer .
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    My guess for the April figure is Clawful

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinHard View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRondor View Post
    My guess for the April figure is Clawful
    They said it is one of the "Masters", which is what they call the good guys on Eternia now.
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    Then if it is a Masters my guess is Man E Faces...since they already have the body of Optic

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRondor View Post
    Then if it is a Masters my guess is Man E Faces...since they already have the body of Optic
    In this very thread, TG states that there is no plan for Man-E, so that kind of puts a damper on that guess.
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    Let's all be careful not to dive into the personal attack/insult pool.

    I humbly request that everyone try to be as diplomatic as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Country View Post
    I really hate the condescending "you don't see what we do right" answer.

    What, TG, you want a pat on the back for doing your JOB?

    That's a crap answer. Period.
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    That didn't bother me half as much as the snotty comment about fans not noticing it either.

    Guess what, Scott. I'm not paid to notice this crap. YOU are.
    As harsh as it sounds, I agree 100%.

    I just got my 2 Roboto's, both with backwards shoulders which look awful and 1 with "The Original" burst on the package.

    Besides, this is the second month in a row that some of my packages get lost: first Orko/Adam & Mo-Larr and then 2 Gygors.

    Yeah, tell me about what you are doing right

    PS: IMO, April's figure is Mekanek
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinHard View Post
    In this very thread, TG states that there is no plan for Man-E, so that kind of puts a damper on that guess.
    Not really. He says a variation on that about any figure that hasn't been announced yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinHard View Post
    In this very thread, TG states that there is no plan for Man-E, so that kind of puts a damper on that guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Super He-Man View Post
    Not really. He says a variation on that about any figure that hasn't been announced yet.
    This is true, plus, I still think the April figure could be Man-E because TG's answer needs to read in the context of the actual question being asked:
    No plans right now for Man-E [to come packaged with these "5x Extra maroon weapons"], but we will be including these colored weapons with the Weapons Rack in early 2011.
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    If they aren't going to fix things, then the best thing Mattel can do on this whole Roboto mess is to keep quiet. Everything they've said so far has been defensive and come off like a child that knows they did something wrong.

    Telling us that we need to notice that you do things right that we don't see is pure rubbish. If I told that to my clients, I might be warned or suspended from my job. The job of a QC/QA role is to catch EVERYTHING and what is missed should be apologized for and that is all. Nothing else should be said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutro View Post
    This is true, plus, I still think the April figure could be Man-E because TG's answer needs to read in the context of the actual question being asked:
    He said the same thing about Whiplash. That there were no current plans, only for him to turn up at NYTF a few months later.

    Man-E-Faces is a stock answer.

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    So I guess we could both be right.
    And I just think it would make much sense to release Man-E in the same month as the weapons rack which includes his "Man-E-"weapons.
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    They could have thousands more eyes looking for defects if they would only show us the figures before they are final. All they have to do is put a disclaimer on the pics saying that they are subject to change.
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    No plans right now for Man-E, but we will be including these colored weapons with the Weapons Rack in early 2011.
    Sadly, this might make the weapons rack my most anticipated release of 2011. I can't wait to get the appropriate weapons for Wun-Dar. And the best parts is, I can can look forward to a MOTUC product without fear of it having loose ankles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanMan View Post
    They could have thousands more eyes looking for defects if they would only show us the figures before they are final. All they have to do is put a disclaimer on the pics saying that they are subject to change.
    Didn't the Roboto prototype at SDCC have the backward shoulders, and no-one caught it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanMan View Post
    They could have thousands more eyes looking for defects if they would only show us the figures before they are final. All they have to do is put a disclaimer on the pics saying that they are subject to change.
    Depends what the fans think is a defect. Some fans might hate what's being offered and want Mattel to scrap the whole figure and resculpt it from scratch. Others might find a single aspect, like the King Hsss snakes to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    Didn't the Roboto prototype at SDCC have the backward shoulders, and no-one caught it?
    Yup! And Im sure Im not alone in kicking myself over not spotting it....My excuse Is I looked at the Roboto pics twice! Bow was the one I most stared at!

    Id like to think I would have spotted it if Bow wasnt so freaking perfect!


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