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    oh Yes, Darkspecter!!!

    What we can say is that everybody seem to agree on a Large Scale figure for Horde Prime. And that's really cool!

    Now, we can ask ourself for:

    Robotic or Techno-organic or ghost or human??

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    One or Two heads?

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    Some people will "get" this, I hope...


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    I say release the 30" Anti-Monitor in Horde colors and call it Horde Supreme.

    And I think the Filmation Prime behind the smoke looks a bit like DCUC Imperiex to me.

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    Reboot - cool Iron Maiden reference!

    EDIT: It dawned to me that you might be referring to the tv-show aswell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Reboot - cool Iron Maiden reference!

    EDIT: It dawned to me that you might be referring to the tv-show aswell?
    Entirely about The Prisoner (the original version). To really get what I was suggesting, you need know the twist in the last ep

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    I want Horde Prime to be the 3rd Giant Figure like Tytus and Megator.
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    The UK version looks downright goofy, but then again this is MOTU we are talking about. I really hope for a Horde Prime/ Supreme but I hope he is designed way different, maybe taking certain aspects from the UK version. Love the idea of a THIRD Power Sword possessed by The Horde!!! I'm guessing it would be red...with black highlights? Maybe transparent... Which would be awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Hunter View Post
    I want Horde Prime to be the 3rd Giant Figure like Tytus and Megator.
    I really like this idea, it would be great if this could happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubilation View Post
    I really like this idea, it would be great if this could happen.
    I agree!!!!!!!!!! coool Idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Hunter View Post
    I want Horde Prime to be the 3rd Giant Figure like Tytus and Megator.
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    I like the idea of this character using the giant buck, as well as being killed off by Hordak. As far as the actual look goes, I don't like any that I have seen so far. I would hope that the 4H would sculpt something new and menacing.
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    I don't like the idea of getting another giant figure. I'm ok with oversized like Gygor size but Tytus size is too big, too expensive and too underarticulated for Horde Prime.

    I much prefer a prop piece of smoke and articulated giant claw (once Filmation rights are announced) than an actual figure.

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    The fan-art is 1000 times better than the awful UK comic concept. Jesus!

    Along with endless Filmation repeats, the atrocious art-work of those comics killed MOTU for me. No - almost killed - it was NA that really kicked the corpse into the grave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeletom View Post
    I like the idea of this character using the giant buck, as well as being killed off by Hordak. As far as the actual look goes, I don't like any that I have seen so far. I would hope that the 4H would sculpt something new and menacing.
    If he does end up being added to the roster of MOTUC mythos having Hordak kill him would be a nice compromise between people who like Hordak having a leader and those that do not. I'm still a fan of Hordak being THE horde leader personally and I don't think anyone should be more powerful than the main faction leaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordak View Post
    If he does end up being added to the roster of MOTUC mythos having Hordak kill him would be a nice compromise between people who like Hordak having a leader and those that do not. I'm still a fan of Hordak being THE horde leader personally and I don't think anyone should be more powerful than the main faction leaders.
    I agree 200%!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    Entirely about The Prisoner (the original version). To really get what I was suggesting, you need know the twist in the last ep
    I have to admit that I have feeling I missed the deeper plot points in that series (as maybe did the members of Iron Maiden aswell). But I think I get it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordak View Post
    If he does end up being added to the roster of MOTUC mythos having Hordak kill him would be a nice compromise between people who like Hordak having a leader and those that do not. I'm still a fan of Hordak being THE horde leader personally and I don't think anyone should be more powerful than the main faction leaders.
    Not even if Hordak is leader of only that sector of the Horde?

    That's actually how I see him. I see the Horde as an incredibly vast intergalactic empire, with many different sectors and each sector having a leader.

    Hordak is one of those leaders....and his sector is likely one of the higher-up ones to Horde Prime/Supreme.
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    I do not want to see a Horde Prime figure, I would rather see a playset made, with the giant hand, and the bridge or walkway that Hordak and Skeletor was standing on talking to him. Lights and sounds, and the hand to control, like a giant fist slamming down near them or even grab them. The only super sized giant I want to see for $100+ is Granamyr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Justice View Post
    I do not want to see a Horde Prime figure, I would rather see a playset made, with the giant hand, and the bridge or walkway that Hordak and Skeletor was standing on talking to him. Lights and sounds, and the hand to control, like a giant fist slamming down near them or even grab them. The only super sized giant I want to see for $100+ is Granamyr.
    Well, that would be awesome,and I would buy both any time, but I won't bet too many chips on that!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordak View Post
    ... I'm still a fan of Hordak being THE horde leader personally and I don't think anyone should be more powerful than the main faction leaders.
    Totally agree with this!

    Let's spend the tooling dollars instead on a cool Snake Mountain, Fright Zone or Slime Pit playset, or an awesome Granamyr or Fright Zone dragon figure.
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    Ugh no Horde Prime for me. I would rather that Hordak just be the supreme leader of the Horde. I thought that Horde Prime was silly when I was a kid, and it definatly holds true for today.

    I mean I realize that I won't have a figure to order my MOTUC Skeletor and Hordak to go and stop the threat of Christmas on Eternia.... but I'll just have to cope somehow

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    Quote Originally Posted by bianchi5 View Post
    Well, that would be awesome,and I would buy both any time, but I won't bet too many chips on that!!
    Yeah, the lights and sounds are too much, but the rest of the design I would be fine with, they can call it a large scale diorama, and not a playset. Either way it is just a dream, because that mechanical version of Horde Prime is all Filmation is it not? All Mattel has is a whimpy insect looking guy. So I would have to join the crowd of no Horde Prime if that is our only option.

    Then again maybe since he is getting a bio with a cool name like the Nameless One, he will have a new cool design by the Horsemen, kind of something epic like their Scarabus character, I would accept a design like that as Horde Prime of course in Classic style.

    in case you guys have not already seen him a hundred times already.
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    HORDE PRIME / HORDE SUPREME in MOTUC (Fig/Bios) - Support Thread

    HORDE PRIME / HORDE SUPREME


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    HORDE SUPREME IN THE MOTUC LINE
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    Horde Supreme is mentionned in the He-ro's bio



    After the Filmation Rights unlocked for Mattel, I was thinking if "Horde Prime" will replaced "Horde Supreme" in the bios/canon for the Motuc line.
    I was also thinking about his appearance...

    And today, ToyGuru answered to my question on the Matty board.


    Question:

    Hello ToyGuru,

    (...)

    At Matypalooza panel, you talk to us about potential characters from Filmation (Lizar Man, Sea Hawk...) and from Comics (Goat Man (Golden Book), Strobo (UK Magazine/US Motu magazine) ...).

    Does this unlock the following appearance of Horde Prime ?
    Will "Horde Prime" replaced "Horde Supreme" in your bios/canon ?

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME and FOR THE AWESOME REVEALS !
    KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB!






    Answer:

    Good question!

    Yes, the "Horde Supreme" mentioned on some bios is going to be Horde Prime going forward. They were both intended to be the same character - the leader of the Horde Empire and older brother to Hordak.

    Just what he will look like if he ever makes it into the line is yet to be determined!

    Hey Folks !

    ToyGuru confirmed that Horde Prime is the older brother of Hordak! And "Horde Prime" should replace "Horde Supreme".

    Personally, I would love to get him, (at least!!!) in the MOTUC line.
    And you, what do you think about the Leader of the Horde Empire ?
    And how do you represent HORDE PRIME?






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    Horde Prime is the ruler of the intergalactic Evil Horde. He is only seen surrounded by green smoke. His true form has never been seen. A metallic arm comes out of the cloud of smoke when he is outraged or angered. Horde Prime has a son named Prince Zed who calls Hordak his uncle. This suggests that Horde Prime may have once looked like Hordak before his transformation. He is voiced in the series by Lou Scheimer.

    In the mythology of She-Ra, Horde Prime is the only being with authority over Hordak as well as his Horde inspectors, for he is the intergalactic ruler of the Horde Empire, with control over all Horde regimes. He apparently hails from a world known as Horde World although his exact background has never been revealed. All that has ever been seen of Horde Prime is a gigantic skeletal robotic arm, which suggests he may be some sort of cyborg. He is also said to have two heads. He travels the universe in his ship, the Velvet Glove, keeping watch over the Horde's universal activities. It has been speculated, but never confirmed, that Horde Prime may be Hordak's brother.

    The main reason for this comes from the episode "The Peril of Whispering Woods", the first She-Ra episode to allude to Horde Prime. In this episode we see Horde Prime's son, Prince Zed, who addresses Hordak as 'uncle'. This could suggest that Prime is Hordak's brother, but it is also possible that Zed only called him 'uncle' as a friendly term, or he is on Zed's mother's side. However a letter from this episode said "your nephew" stating that Hordak is his uncle but we don't know on which side. How Prince Zed is Horde Prime's son still remains to be seen.

    Two UK She-Ra annuals in the mid-1980s state that Hordak is Prime's brother, but these operate within a canon independent of the cartoon and also got Horde Prime's name wrong, referring to him as 'Prime Horde'. The UK He-Man comics state explicitly in one issue that Horde Prime is not Hordak's brother, but again these operate within an independent canon and drew Prime with a completely different appearance from the cartoon.

    It has not yet been confirmed whether or not Filmation's writers conceived Prime as Hordak's brother. However, he is referred to as such in the Character Profiles in Disc 6 of the She-Ra Season One DVD set.

    Masters of the Universe Classics Hordak's bio describes Hordak as the "second heir of the Horde Empire." this may be referring to Horde Prime. In the MOTUC He-ro bio a possible new name for Horde Prime is Horde Supreme.

    In the episode For the Want Of A Horse, Grizzlor states that Horde Prime should get matching bowties for each head. Shadow Weaver somewhat later confirms, in that same episode, that Horde Prime indeed is dual-headed; when asked by Hordak as to what would be a suitable gift for someone who already possesses two of everything. Hordak grants further confirmation by expressing his dismay at being reminded of that fact. How both heads work as one mind still remains to be seen.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horde_Prime#Horde_Prime

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    Woah, awesome support thread! It looks like you went to a lot of trouble getting the fan art pics, which is awesome!

    I definitely want him. The UK Horde Prime looks similar to his shape in Filmation. It's hard to see, but he's there behind the "smoke." It could just be a GIANT machine he made to look like him...that he controls from the inside?



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    Hmm. I think if they use the UK version as like a Preternian incarnation, he should be a giant like Tytus and Megator. And let the Four Horsemen do whatever they want to spruce that design up!!!!!

    I don't think the Filmation version lends itself over to a figure very well, but I'd like to see the Horsemen try it as a giant or diorama. That is the definitive version for me, so if they have idea then let them at it.

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