Keldor/200X Skeletor double-sword: Mattel are going to do it!

**Bulkhide** · January 10, 2011, 08:11am

Originally Posted by Darkspecter

Oh, YES! This is fantastic news. The swords that came with Keldor were basically my only disappointment with the figure. I'm so excited for these!

I was just going to say that now we just need a melting face!

2012 MOTUC SDCC Exclusive! Keldor with Burning Head, 200X Swords, and new White Skull Head!

**MegaGearMax** · January 10, 2011, 09:07am

Originally Posted by Tallstar

MegaGearMax is going to freak out over this news.

W00T!!!!!
Hell yes!!!! Pixel Dan, if you're reading this, it's another topic for It Figures!

First 200X He-Man and now Keldor's 200X swords! Now all we need are those heads...

Thanks Toyguru!

**Flor2099** · January 10, 2011, 09:38am

What an awesome way to start the week!

**Odrakir** · January 10, 2011, 10:09am

This is coming in the next weapons pack... there's no sense in releasing another Keldor / Skeletor variant just for the swords.

**Straight Edge** · January 10, 2011, 10:21am

Just reinforces my belief that Scott can do no wrong. Seems obvious to me that Scott loves MOTU in total... and the line is limited only by the 4 Horsemen's imagination, and Scott's ability to get those ideas greenlit by the Trollan Overlords we call Mattel.

Great news, either way. The 200x swords were a big sticking point and we've lobbied hard to get them released. The lesson to take from this is that our voices can effect change in the line. The danger, of course, is that everyone will believe their personal cause can be validated in the same way, and come to blame Scott when the Overlords continue to veto some suggestions while eventually caving on others.

Keldor Swords =/= Filmation rights. This is a victory, but a small one to be savored, not a precedent to be cited when we don't get our way in the future.

Originally Posted by Odrakir

This is coming in the next weapons pack... there's no sense in releasing another Keldor / Skeletor variant just for the swords.

Except for two rules of the line:
1) Skeletor Variants will be coming, whether you feel them necessary or not. Most fans are looking at the reality, and looking into where the swords can be released in the schedule and structure of the line.
2) Weapons packs are, as far as we know, only going to include repaints of previously tooled weapons. Nothing new, period.

3) - For those suggesting they be released with a Keldor refresh - rereleases and second run figures will not include new accessories. If Keldor is rereleased, it will be the same figure as in June 2010. Grayskull was specifically changed from his original release because he was the 4th Quarter Bonus Figure, not a rerelease, and Scott wanted to slot him in before Bonus Figures became part of the subscription... so no one would be stuck with a duplicate King Grayskull unless they wanted him.

**hhhelmsley** · January 10, 2011, 10:28am

Originally Posted by Bulkhide

2012 MOTUC SDCC Exclusive! Keldor with Burning Head, 200X Swords, and new White Skull Head!

Count me in!!! That sound too sweet!!

**Minion** · January 10, 2011, 10:36am

Originally Posted by Reboot

On the face of it, not likely - once they've come with a figure, the moulds will be available for a weapons pak, but only if they were repainted in some significant way for the WP. That would mean the weapons pak version coming with something like gold/black hilts rather than copper/purple.

Are there any other colour schemes they could do that wouldn't be completely random?

Yeah this is kind of what I meant anyway. If the repaint was too bizarre (quite likely just as you said) I would be happy to custom them up real good.

**FAKER II** · January 10, 2011, 10:38am

I really want to be excited about this. But unless it also comes with new boots that have tight ankles I'm just not thrilled about having better swords for a figure that can't stand up.

**Reboot** · January 10, 2011, 10:40am

Originally Posted by Dredgen

I disagree. With a few reused parts Mattel can make a really cool looking figure.

Take Keldor and give him a Pre-Eternia He-man hood with a Scareglow head, Trap jaw boots, Havoc staff and the 200X swords. If the tooling budget allowed it hairless Beast Man feet. Then just repaint every thing in the 200X color scheme.

You miss the point - it isn't a cost issue, they'd find the money if they actually wanted to do it, but a "we want all the Skeletors/etc to look the same... for now" thing.

Originally Posted by Odrakir

This is coming in the next weapons pack... there's no sense in releasing another Keldor / Skeletor variant just for the swords.

There's no new tooling allocated to weapons paks - it'll come with an item that "has tooling allocated". Probably a figure, maybe the next "diorama" piece to follow the Weapons Rack.

I agree they wouldn't do a Skele-variant JUST for these, but they've shown that they intend to do a Skeletor (& He-Man) variant every year or so, and they could include it with the next one. Or they could follow the route of the MotUC 200X power sword, and pack it in with a tangentially-related character.

**Kevenn** · January 10, 2011, 11:20am

I'm with BCRDuke. i think the perfect figure for the swords to come out with is Demo-Man.

**mjharwood** · January 10, 2011, 11:24am

Originally Posted by Reboot

There's no new tooling allocated to weapons paks - it'll come with an item that "has tooling allocated". Probably a figure, maybe the next "diorama" piece to follow the Weapons Rack.

Hm... maybe a diorama piece of the Throne of Bones could include the swords?

**RocketPunch** · January 10, 2011, 11:58am

Originally Posted by bcrduke

They could come with...Demo-Man.

Good call. He seems a bit light on accessories compared to Vikor and it could encourage more prople to buy him.

**Odrakir** · January 10, 2011, 12:01pm

Originally Posted by Straight Edge

Except for two rules of the line:
1) Skeletor Variants will be coming, whether you feel them necessary or not. Most fans are looking at the reality, and looking into where the swords can be released in the schedule and structure of the line.
2) Weapons packs are, as far as we know, only going to include repaints of previously tooled weapons. Nothing new, period.

3) - For those suggesting they be released with a Keldor refresh - rereleases and second run figures will not include new accessories. If Keldor is rereleased, it will be the same figure as in June 2010. Grayskull was specifically changed from his original release because he was the 4th Quarter Bonus Figure, not a rerelease, and Scott wanted to slot him in before Bonus Figures became part of the subscription... so no one would be stuck with a duplicate King Grayskull unless they wanted him.

1) I know variants of Skeletor are coming, I'm just saying that variants of a variant (yes Keldor is a variant of Skeletor) are a bit of waste of time, money and tooling (at least for me).

2) AFAIK this rule can be changed, and there's nothing better than an exclusive weapon like Keldor's swords to sell a weapons pack. Just because there was no new tooling on the previous weapons pack doesn't mean there won't be in the near future.

**Lay Ze-Man** · January 10, 2011, 12:53pm

This is not really "news" in a way, since as Scott says right there, they've always been borrowing weapon and accessory 200x designs for use in MOTUC.

That the Skeletor sword design was EVER off the table to begin with is what even makes this noteworthy at all.

(I do give Scott kudos for finally getting off the "style" labeling while discussing this topic.)

But you can bet this will be quoted again and again (by myself and others) whenever other fans attempt the tired "Quit beating a dead horse!

" argument.

**Lewd_Squirrel** · January 10, 2011, 01:00pm

maybe they'll come with Blade.

Or Spikor?

**Lay Ze-Man** · January 10, 2011, 01:05pm

Originally Posted by Lewd_Squirrel

maybe they'll come with Blade.

Or Spikor?

No, Blade will come with two Classic Power Swords.

Those original Blade swords were a stylistic interpretation used for the 1987 movie, and that style is currently retired.

Maybe during a movie year, it might be possible to have some refreshes of key characters and we could sneak in some 1987 stylings, but it's too early to say!

Stay tuned!

**Neo** · January 10, 2011, 01:23pm

They shouldn't come with demo-man since they are keldors swords. I would love them to come with spikor, But my money is on a birth of Skeletor variant.

**Matthew K** · January 10, 2011, 01:31pm

I'm not a big fan of that sword or swords as it were, but glad to hear that fans of it will be able to get a MOTUC version.

**Mern-Ra** · January 10, 2011, 01:38pm

Originally Posted by Bulkhide

2012 MOTUC SDCC Exclusive! Keldor with Burning Head, 200X Swords, and new White Skull Head!

I was thinking the same thing! It would also be cool if they came with 200X Evil-Lyn!

**DO4M** · January 10, 2011, 01:41pm

Well They can be used on "Ambrosia Skeletor" (Battle Sound Skeletor, but without battle, or sounds)
Possible Variants for the sword: (A repaint must come in WP4 or something...)
Traditional 200X colors, Vintage style colors (orange sword and purple sword) The Disco Versions, Spin Blade versions...

**evenflow** · January 10, 2011, 02:00pm

This is the fan relations stuff I want. Enough fans want the swords, its a collectors line so why not give it to us. Thank TG

**danvin** · January 10, 2011, 02:01pm

maybe we'll get a Snake Mountain weapons rack in 2011!

**Coptur** · January 10, 2011, 02:03pm

Well i hope they come with a figure i want and not a pointless skeletor variant.

Even when i was younger i never liked variants like 'super skateboarding skeletor'

Had to be the normal/orginal

**JimPansen** · January 10, 2011, 02:29pm

Maybe the Sword(s) will come with the Facelessone!

**RocketPunch** · January 10, 2011, 02:47pm

Originally Posted by Neo

They shouldn't come with demo-man since they are keldors swords. I would love them to come with spikor, But my money is on a birth of Skeletor variant.

Perhaps they could have belonged to Demo-Man originally before Keldor got hold of them? Kind of like how Vikor had He-Man's sword.

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