They are obviously going with the most iconic versions of the characters first. There is no question, regardless of what someone personally prefers, that this Catra and She-Ra are the iconic versions. They are by far the most popular. It's pretty logical.Originally Posted by davidlogan
Matty's logic man...only MOTU figures have to be as close to the toy as possible. POP figures get to look like the style guide?
personally speaking - i don't collect POP; but i'm pleased that mattel are going for the filmation looks (at first, at least) for the POP figures ...
the original POP figures, to me, just look like a bunch of cheap barbie dolls (*no offence intended - just my opinion*) ... so i think the 4H have pulled off the filmation look really well, and they have created a really smart looking mature figure ...
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I'm with those who would rather have seen "toy Catra" first ... I just don't have a lot of love for the Style Guide version.
I'm already trying to decide whether I'll open this one or hold out for the day (hopefully soon) they release the vintage-toy-based version as a variant.
I wonder if they'll even try to have different names for the different versions of Catra, or if they'll just do different faction stickers and (perhaps) tag lines. The style guide version could have "Catra - Force Captain of the Evil Horde" (or something) with the Horde sticker and the toy version could have "Catra - Jealous Beauty" with the PoP sticker.
Masquerade Catra? - This could be what she wears to the annual Etheria Horde mixer.
Cosplay Catra?
Put me in the boat that prefers the Style Guide/Filmation looks over the vintage toys. I'm glad they're doing those versions first as well.
I agree with this. In the first mini-comics Catra looks like she's an independant villain with no association with the Horde. She has her own Catmen and catbirds.
I would like to think this is Catra before she joins with The Evil Horde.
I also agree with this. Toy Catra/the first mini-comics Catra was the scariest, most powerful, most evil lady in the MOTU/PoP world. She was darn scary in the first few comics!
In Filmation she was just ornery.
Whil I do love the Catra figure we have been shown, I too would have preferred to see Toy Catra make it to MOTUC first.
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What did I just read? I need to borrow your smelling salts.
LOL...That's true. But in fairness, when I look at the Catra we're getting in May, I'm automatically inclined to imagine her as having a Filmation-like backstory that's totally separate from the vastly different early mini-comics and television commericals interpretation of her. They pretty much are separate Catras'. Transforming abilities aside, "Horde Catra" just doesn't seem magical to me at all / like an evil Sorceress type of character who's "stealing powers where she's at"...I dunno, I guess I grew found of the idea that mini-comics Catra is potentially ancient and full of knowledge of Etheria's past. To me, the cat mask and outfit looks sort of tribal...from an early time period.
...And don't ask me why, but I always think of certain parts of early Etheria (that Catra ruled) as being slightly similar to the island life depicted in The Wicker Man.
For many the cartoon version is the ultimate version. I think if they had tried to meld the two looks together it would have satisfied no one so their was always going to be about 50% of fans disapointed no matter which version they released.
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Mixing them would have been the worst. idea. EVER!
I seriously hope they do toy versions of Catra and She-Ra as A-list variants though. I love and grew up with both designs.
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I could see them releasing this as Battle Armor Catra because I see them doing the same thing with She-Ra's toy look down the line to.
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The Horde have a dress code - wear their symbol, or go down the trap door
Not all Horde members have the Horde symbol though...The Horde have a dress code - wear their symbol, or go down the trap door
Toys:
Modulok (went from Skeletor to Hordak on the toon, mad scientist)
Multi-Bot (created by Modulok on the toon)
Entrapta
Double Trouble (pretending to work with the Horde, she's a Double Agent)
Cartoon:
General Sundar (leaves the Horde)
Lohni (leaves the Horde)
Adora (when she was with the Horde)
Adora's babysitter (leaves the Horde)
Probably some others...
I guess the moral of the story is...if you don't wear the Horde symbol, you're going to jump ship...unless you're Entrapta.
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I think it would be interesting if the POP style Catra was originally 'good' and lived amongst Queen Angella's court and the other POP characters and when the Horde arrived she turned traitor and was instrumental in helping Hordak takeover Etheria from the inside. Hordak then could have given her a high position in the Horde as gratitude - giving birth to Red Horde Catra.
I'd place my bet on Colala Leoptar as real name...
Sounds similar to Shadow Weaver's origin in Filmation, what with her betraying the planet and all.
And the problem with that would be what?
Once Matty gets/admits they own FILMation rights then Shadow Weaver can worm her way into the Horde and that can be a justification for Catra's 'jealous beauty' tag. She won't be the character who is jealous that She-Ra is pretty, she'll be the beautiful woman who is jealous of Shadow Weaver's evil?
Yup... that makes sense to me.
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I thought the jealous beauty meant she was deeply jealous of Adora being a Force Captain and Hordak's favourite in the toon. For the toys, it was more She-Ra was a pretty blonde that everyone loved and it really ate her up!
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Shadow Weaver needs to be with the Horde from the beginning of their invasion of Etheria so that she can help raise Adora and cast the spell that allowed Hordak to control her.
Catra looks too young to have assisted the Horde in conquering Etheria 20+ years ago. Perhaps Catra could betray the rebels, allowing the Horde to overthrow Bright Moon, but Weaver should still be the one chiefly responsible for helping the Horde conquer the planet.
I want them to leave enough room in the bios to incorporate Shadow Weaver without changing her origin story, should they ever get the rights to use her.
True but the Horde seem to be extremely slow aging, is it because of their individual races? It's obviously not being in Etheria itself because Adora aged normally, and you can't argue away being pulled through the portal as the reason because again Adora aged normally. Anyway.. my point being Catra can look young but at the same time be 400+ too.
I do want them to leave room without having to completely throw away FILMAtion history, but it would be a simple change:
Catra was Horde first - rivalry with Adora etc
Weaver joins the Horde when Hordak actively starts to seize control of the planet (I'd assume it would take some time to get used to being transported there)
She places the spell on Adora, and as Adora ages Hordak hatches a scheme to use her against Randor (possibly to kill him)
Hordak augments Weaver's powers and turns her into the character we all know and love. In the process she gets trained in the darkest of arts and Hordak plans on using her life as a sacrifice to open the portal back to Eternia (because he might not know another way and the last time the portal was opened it cost Greyskull his life)
Catra becomes jealous because of how favored Adora was, and how after Adora left the Horde Shadow Weaver moves up even higher in the ranks and Catra has a rivalry with her because she's favored more because of her mystical abilities whereas the extent of Catra's mystical powers are the mask that allows her to transform.
I dunno... I think it could still work.
I don't think it would work having Catra start off as a good character because it would make it almost impossible for Double Trouble to come in and be able to pull off the spy thing.
I just really don't want the explanation for the difference between the first toy incarnation and now the Horde outfit one to be her being under Hordak's control. Between Adora, Grizzlor and the Horde Troopers it would be too many 'brainwashed' people they need a character who is just plain old evil.
I would be okay with the idea of Catra starting off as a tomb raider/gun for hire type of character.
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Oh no problem. I hope I didn't come across as being mean about it or anything.That said, even though I don't think they ever fully explained Catra's backstory in the cartoon, you could probably infer that she may have been on the side of good at one time like Shadow Weaver. I remember that Hordak gave her the cat mask...like The Horde gave Shadow Weaver the Power Gem's power. (well a third of it)
Didn't Catra steal the mask from a race of cat people and pose as their queen or something? I don't remember if Hordak gave it to her or not, but it has been a long time since I've watched that episode.Oh no problem. I hope I didn't come across as being mean about it or anything.
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Personally, I'm very happy with the version of Catra we're getting, I didn't really read the mini-comics much as a kid because they conflicted with filmation too much. So filmation Catra is the one I always wanted. If I recall correctly, I even semi-repainted Catra when I was a kid, and put a big ol' horde symbol on her. If we do get a toy based version from the 80's I will surely buy it though.
I don't think she knew anything about the Magicats and the mask's origin until She-Ra and her fell into their underground world. I think she stayed in her cat form to fool everyone into thinking she was their Queen, after one of them mistook her for the lost Queen. She played like she had amnesia.
^ This. Hordak kidnapped the Queen of the Magicats and gave Catra her mask. That's why she can turn into a cat (in the cartoon, at least).I don't think she knew anything about the Magicats and the mask's origin until She-Ra and her fell into their underground world. I think she stayed in her cat form to fool everyone into thinking she was their Queen, after one of them mistook her for the lost Queen. She played like she had amnesia.
In the toys, Clawdeen gave her the mask and taught her how to turn into a cat. In the mini-comics she turns into a regular looking cat.
In the Magicat episode, Catra also learns how to shoot freeze beams from her mask! She forgets all about this by the end of the episode though.
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Katra.
Or as others have suggested, "Battle Armour" Catra or "Scratchin' Claws" Catra.
Given the absence of any Horde insignia in the toy design, I guess they could release her as some kind of a "prequel" Catra from before she joined the Horde. If so, then her bio may provide an insight into a suitable name.
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