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    Was there always a He-Man?

    I know this has been discussed but I couldn't find a specific thread about it...

    Do you guys think that after King Grayskull there was always a "He-Man" to protect the power sword (Vikor, Wun-Dar, Oo-Lar) or was their times of peace (like when Adam was growing up) that a He-Man was not needed?

    I seem to remember Toyguru touching on this subject but can't can't seem to locate the info.

    5000 years have passed between Grayskull & Adam (the chose one) but with all of the He-MEN was there always a designated He-Man?
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    I think there were periods of time in which there was no He-Man and the both parts of the sword were hidden somewhere on Eternia by "the goodess". In case that some evil powers were searching for the swords or in the case that the swords have to be removed from the cache a new He-Man was needed.



    The He-Man in the picture above isnīt Adam, but he wears the same techno vest as Adam (inclusive shoes)...was he living before Adam? No, because in MotuC Bio of He-Man they say "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field...". So this guy live years after Adam???
    Or was he living before Adam wearing the same vest but without "build-in force field"???
    When this is true, there must have lived minimum one other He-Man before this guy above wearing the same vest.
    How many He-Man before Adam were wearing this vest?
    Vikor and Wun-Dar have their own styles, at some point in time the He-Man begin wearing all the same vest!?

    I am wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feast-Man View Post
    The He-Man in the picture above isnīt Adam, but he wears the same techno vest as Adam (inclusive shoes)...was he living before Adam? No, because in MotuC Bio of He-Man they say "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field...". So this guy live years after Adam???

    Or does he was living before Adam wearing the same vest but without "build-in force field"???
    When this is true, there must have lived minimum one other He-Man before this guy above wearing the same vest.
    How many He-Man before Adam were wearing this vest?
    Vikor and Wun-Dar have their own styles, at some point in time the He-Man begin wearing all the same vest!?

    I am wrong?
    That techno vest in the picture... HAS the forcefield.

    In the original mini's the vest gave him his vast strength and immunity to harm with a 'force-field'

    As for the rest... while it hasn't been CONFIRMED yet... the going theory is that is Oo-lar in the picture, and he was the He-man before Adam. During Adam's life-time... He fought Gygor.. and Skeletor in his Battle Armor...


    Toyguru has said there was always a He-man... but I don't actually believe that...

    It sounds a little TOO much like buffy. Where as soon as one dies, then another is revealed... I think that when one he-man died... there was a time between days... to months... or even years, as Goddess searched and trained a replacement.

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    "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field..."

    Everything Phantom1592 said. Also, in regards to Adam as He-Man, he used the vest's force field as protection before joining the two halves of the Power Sword. Then, he was able to channel the power within, to protect himself.

    I'd imagine when the Goddess gave Oo-Larr the armor, he also used the force field as protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon-O View Post
    "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field..."
    ....But then his enemies acquired a Dinosaur, who eats force field vests!
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    To me, the strangest part of all this is that it implies that the He-Man we all probably know best was just Adam in a powered up costume. Adam wore the vest to protect himself because he had no actual power. It wasn't until after he unites the twin halves of the sword that he unlocks the true power of grayskull and that gives him Battle Armor. Kind of an interesting wrinkle. Seems like it should be the other way round, as Power Vest He-Man is usually depicted with the sword, and Battle Armor He-Man is usually depicted with an axe. But still, a very interesting story wrinkle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    That techno vest in the picture... HAS the forcefield.

    In the original mini's the vest gave him his vast strength and immunity to harm with a 'force-field'

    As for the rest... while it hasn't been CONFIRMED yet... the going theory is that is Oo-lar in the picture, and he was the He-man before Adam. During Adam's life-time... He fought Gygor.. and Skeletor in his Battle Armor...
    But in the bio they say "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field"...strange...

    But if i am wrong, where does this vest come from? the vest was already there when the goodess presents it to Oo-lar...Must be minimun one He-Man before Oo-lar with this vest (because it looks old and used). But maby it is only an old war armor she gives him like Wun-dar the cosmic stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon-O View Post
    "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field..."
    Yes, i thought there is a different between a techno vest and the techno vest!?
    Why should they say "a" techno vest when it is "the" techno vest from the last H-M
    But my english is bad so maybe you are right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feast-Man View Post
    Yes, i thought there is a different between a techno vest and the techno vest!?
    Why should they say "a" techno vest when it is "the" techno vest from the last H-M
    But my english is bad so maybe you are right
    That's an excellent point, F-M!

    I've been perusing the forums and I don't think anyone else has commented on that fact. Good eye!
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    I asked Toyguru about this...



    Was there a He-Man active through all 5000 years until Adam (Sorta like when a He-Man perishes, the Goddess seeks out a new replacement and did this continuously until Adam was born) or were there these little gaps of these peaceful ages where a He-Man wasn't needed and the Power Sword halves went undisturbed?

    I'm asking this because with 5000 years, that's alot of He-Men. Unless a He-Man was only chosen because of the most extreme threats to Eternia.

    Yes, the idea is there was always someone guarding the sword of He. But that warrior wasn't always known. In some generations the guardian warrior kept to him or herself.

    But this is how the "legend of the He-Man" spread around Eternia until Adam used the Power of Grayskull to transform into the one true He-Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feast-Man View Post
    Yes, i thought there is a different between a techno vest and the techno vest!?
    Why should they say "a" techno vest when it is "the" techno vest from the last H-M
    But my english is bad so maybe you are right
    Good point about "a" versus "the". It could be a reference to where his power/protection is coming from, also if the wording is taken directly from any source material. Also, as it was the first figure, they might not have wanted to mention Oo-Lar just yet, and keep us wondering.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkhide View Post
    Also, Oo-Lar was around during the time of Adam being born, if I'm remember right? Because he fought Gy-Gor during the Great Unrest. Right?
    Yes. That's right!
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    There has to be a story behind the techno vest. King Grayskull didn't wear it. It had to come from somewhere.

    I think there has been period of relative calm. It is stated in the bio that Vikor himself was briefly a He-man. I could be that sometimes they just need a "He-man" for a single adventure and that's it for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon-O View Post
    Good point about "a" versus "the". It could be a reference to where his power/protection is coming from, also if the wording is taken directly from any source material. Also, as it was the first figure, they might not have wanted to mention Oo-Lar just yet, and keep us wondering.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feast-Man View Post
    Yes, i thought there is a different between a techno vest and the techno vest!?
    Why should they say "a" techno vest when it is "the" techno vest from the last H-M
    But my english is bad so maybe you are right
    Honestly... I don't think these bio's have been written with enough skill to nit-pick their grammar. A techno-vest... vs. THE techno vest?? I DOUBT that 'meant' anything...

    Look at it this way....

    Originally (in Motuc AND Mini Comics...) He used a vest to be He-man. the vest gave him strength and it gave him a force field....

    THEN he gained the power of the sword.

    NOW... He-man has the strength (much MORE Strenght....) and durability WITHOUT the vest....

    For example when it gets stripped from him... or he's in Battle armor... or Thunderpunch... or snake armor... He's NOT wearing the Corodite vest

    BUT he's still He-man

    I'm curious where it came from too... I think the sorceress and/or Goddess helped create it to simiulate King Grayskulls massive power...

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    Always a He-Man?

    Depends on how many "He-Men" figures you can sell and fit into the time-line (assuming the Mattel folks get the math right).
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    Honestly... I don't think these bio's have been written with enough skill to nit-pick their grammar. A techno-vest... vs. THE techno vest?? I DOUBT that 'meant' anything...

    Maybe you right, but if not....

    There are two possibilities for me,

    The Oo-lar possibility.

    The guy on the picture from the original mini-comics is Oo-lar.
    The picture shows the goodess refering the techno vest to Oo-lar.
    That means that Oo-lar, who had lived as a He-Man a short time before Adam take the job, was wearing a techno vest.
    This techno vest looks the same, as Adams vest does when he become the He-Man.

    In Adams/He-Mans bio they mentioned that "At first, he used a techno vest with a built-in force field...".
    So he was the first He-Man who uses A techno vest with a built- in force field.

    If this is so it leads us to only one conclusion:

    The vest showen in the picture/original mini-comic is the same techno vest as Adamīs, and the goodess
    gives it to Oo-lar before Adam, but Oo-lar donīt uses or dont have the built-in force field.

    In this case they should have said "At first, he used THE techno vest with a built-in force field...". to be correct.

    The question now is where come this vest from, because in the picture the vest is already there.

    Do it belong or was invented by a "He-Man" before Oo-lar?
    Or is it just a kind of Soldier Armor? (without build-in force field)?


    The After Adam possibility.

    In Adams/He-Mans bio they mentioned that "At first, he used A techno vest with a built-in force field...".
    So he was the first He-Man who uses A techno vest with a built- in force field.

    The guy in the picture is not Oo-lar, but a He-Man who appears after Adam/He-Man, receiving Adamīs/He-Manīs techno vest from the goodess, including the already from Adam used build-in force field.

    hmmm?
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