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    Disheartening

    The whole idea/dream of having the Gods make another He-man movie is starting to look more and more like a pipe dream. I don't want to give up hope but I'm really starting to loose hope.

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    the wait is starting to hurt me but I still have faith, I suspect that Mattel is planning something big for 2012 onwards.
    Now is the time for a new project motu, not 10 years ago, not 10 years in the future, noooow.
    I can't believe there are a new transformers series,new g i joe series and new tcats series ....come on mattel! ....risk.

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    I look at it this way... every day that passes brings us one day closer to the next movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Atkin View Post
    I look at it this way... every day that passes brings us one day closer to the next movie.
    Fantastic philosophy.

    There are a lot of people who claim there will never be a film because, simply put, there hasn’t been one yet. That's not a very good reason. Films that bounce around from studio to studio with the speed with which MOTU has eventually always end getting made. I think within the next five years threads like this will be void. Instead, we’ll be making threads on why Battle-Cat had silver armour and black fur and why Skeletor was just a skinny guy wearing a mask. Okay, that last one was a joke, but I’m sure you get what I’m talking about.

    It’s clear that Mattel are seeking to one day bring the brand back into the mainstream. Toyguru said that they have “huge” plans for 2012. Whilst I don’t think that means the movie I do think Mattel are prepping a re-launch of the brand, which can only be a good thing. MOTUC is great, and I wish it a long and healthy life, but MOTU is so much more than just an adult collector line that’s sold on one website.

    We haven’t heard anything since last April. My guess is there will be a director announcement from Sony within the next few months. At least I hope so. The ball is in Mattel’s court, really. Hasbro have so many films in production based on their brands. If Mattel want the same, they can have it. It's really up to them.

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    Its better that we aren't seeing one. It means Hollywood won't screw it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
    Its better that we aren't seeing one. It means Hollywood won't screw it up.
    I have a belief that MOTU will have a slow G.I. Joe-like rebirth. It'll gain slow momentum over time, but eventually it'll be back among the other big boy toy franchises with comic books, video games, novels, movies, cartoons and retail toys.

    I like the idea that MOTU has to legitimately prove itself all over again. MOTU was an already successful toyline before Filmation catipulted the franchise to new heights.

    I see the same happening with MOTU Classic.

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    I kind of like where we are. I mean I wish we had some cheaper toys that we didn't have to order exclusively for online. But I mean I like the toys we are getting and the variety of characters and the cool new accessories.

    But all that being said, I don't want there to be a movie just to define the property's existence. Especially if its a movie like the Transformers and GI JOE **** or over half of the Hollywood **** we generally see quite often.

    I like that we got a new toy series and an animated DVD turned into a whole pilot and then a whole TV show. The TV show was unfortunately cut short but we got some good material there and some good toys designed by the 4 Horsemen. And then we got a new toy line more in the style and design of the 1980's toys and I really like those.

    I think fans need to just stop worrying about a movie and just enjoy what we have now. A movie could ****ing kill all of it like SPEED RACER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
    I kind of like where we are. I mean I wish we had some cheaper toys that we didn't have to order exclusively for online. But I mean I like the toys we are getting and the variety of characters and the cool new accessories.

    But all that being said, I don't want there to be a movie just to define the property's existence. Especially if its a movie like the Transformers and GI JOE **** or over half of the Hollywood **** we generally see quite often.

    I like that we got a new toy series and an animated DVD turned into a whole pilot and then a whole TV show. The TV show was unfortunately cut short but we got some good material there and some good toys designed by the 4 Horsemen. And then we got a new toy line more in the style and design of the 1980's toys and I really like those.

    I think fans need to just stop worrying about a movie and just enjoy what we have now. A movie could ****ing kill all of it like SPEED RACER.
    Or it could give MOTU a new lease of life. The Classics line, as amazing as it is, isn’t enough to do that on its own. Time to get MOTU back out into the mainstream, IMO. You mentioned Speed Racer, but let's be honest, that film wasn't made for anyone else but the Wachowski brothers.

    This whole “MOTU belongs to us and no one else” mentality that a lot of fans seem to have is quite strange. I'm not accusing you of that, I'm just saying that I've seen a lot of comments indicating that there are a lot of people who, for example, would rather a new Snake Mountain play set than a big budget movie. Obviously it's just my opinion, but I find that mentality hard to understand, especially as an adult. It just seems very small-minded. Although I am more of a comic and media fan than a toy fan. So, to me, MOTU will always belong in the realm of film, tv and comics. The amazing artwork that's been generated over the course of many years was the first thing that got me hooked on MOTU.

    If it ever came down to a choice of either a brand new movie and a full brand re-launch with a whole slew of merchandise, or the Classics line and nothing else, then I’m sorry Classics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krueger View Post
    Or it could give MOTU a new lease of life. The Classics line, as amazing as it is, isn’t enough to do that on its own. Time to get MOTU back out into the mainstream, IMO. You mentioned Speed Racer, but let's be honest, that film wasn't made for anyone else but the Wachowski brothers.
    Why does it need new lease on life when it is ALIVE AND WELL already?

    This whole “MOTU belongs to us and no one else” mentality that a lot of fans seem to have is quite strange. I'm not accusing you of that, I'm just saying that I've seen a lot of comments indicating that there are a lot of people who, for example, would rather a new Snake Mountain play set than a big budget movie. Obviously it's just my opinion, but I find that mentality hard to understand, especially as an adult. It just seems very small-minded. Although I am more of a comic and media fan than a toy fan. So, to me, MOTU will always belong in the realm of film, tv and comics. The amazing artwork that's been generated over the course of many years was the first thing that got me hooked on MOTU.
    If the boot fits. Once again, I don't want a big budget movie if it is at the expense of the quality and standards we have come to expect from the franchise. I'd rather there was never a Dragon Ball Evolution movie ever made.

    If it ever came down to a choice of either a brand new movie and a full brand re-launch with a whole slew of merchandise, or the Classics line and nothing else, then I’m sorry Classics.
    I don't see why it has to be either or really. At the end of the day even the Classics era will end. After a while they will run out of characters and figures to make. Think about this. MOTU has already been relaunched three times. So it is bound to be relaunched and reinvigorated again at some point in the future. I'm simply in no hurry to see Classics again in the favor of some big budget Hollywood garbage that is a disgrace to the franchise.
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    GI Joe and Transformers 1 and 2 were all horrible films. Did their respective toy lines die because of it? No. Even though their films were dreadful, they still made money and the toys made money. I highly doubt that a new movie would end MOTUC. The line is successful. Why should it stop? I would not be surprised if it ends up going past 2017.

    With MOTU, Mattel and the film producers have the luxury of the 1987 movie to learn from (what worked / what didn't work). I love that film with all my heart, but it had it's share of flaws. I suspect we will get a film with characters that look more like their toy counterparts with Mattel taking on a more active role this time. We know that they have already rejected a few scripts. They want something of quality that represents the brand.
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    if property exists, then the chance of it becoming a movie is always there. Esp since hollywood loves to make money. if they will make tv shows out of twitter accounts, then they willmake a He-Man movie.
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    I agree its been hard to wait with so little word on whats going. I do believe that SOMETHING will come of it though, even if it doesn't end up being a movie. I think if the movie doesn't happen then we will at least get a cartoon or D2DVD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
    I'm simply in no hurry to see Classics again in the favor of some big budget Hollywood garbage that is a disgrace to the franchise.
    C’mon, though, whether it will end being “Hollywood garbage” is all in the eye of the beholder. I suppose it depends on what we all want from a MOTU film. Obviously, each of us wants different things. I just want a good action sci-fi/fantasy film that shows respect to the brand and that’s just a good flick. I’m not expecting some big epic serial that spans six movies (although I wouldn’t complain). MOTU, at least to me, is pretty black and white. MOTU can only ever be a popcorn film, IMO. That’s more than likely what we’ll end up getting.

    Yeah, I don’t want a Dragonball Evolution either. But chances are that’s not going to happen, as Mattel seem very protective of the brand, which is a blessing and a bit of a curse.

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    They should be protective after what happened with the first movie. The writers that have been attached to the property so far have put together terrible scripts and concepts that do not do the property justice.

    I say no to the movie if it means a ****** movie with ****** movie-esque toys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
    Its better that we aren't seeing one. It means Hollywood won't screw it up.
    I'm in this boat.
    However, I am morbidly curious what David Lynch would do with it.
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    For the 30th anniversary I would be just as happy if we got a brand-new, direct-to-DVD animated film (although PLEASE let it be the traditional hand-drawn animation and not CG!!!).

    Perhaps something that totally embraces / compliments the MOTUC toy range and style...and perhaps even the Filmation, NA and MVP cartoons combined...

    You could have cameos from characters from all three TV shows...along with vocal guest appearances from voice actors who appeared in all three cartoons - either playing characters that they originally voiced or brand-new characters (it's successfully been done before folks!)...

    You could probably even get Dolph to VOICE King Greyskull if it's a reboot / origin story?

    I think that way you could present something fresh that will lure in NEW viewers (without alienating them) and with the above suggestions will also please / appeal / satisfy long-term fans of the previous cartoons and franchise as a whole...

    Maybe even use it as a back door pilot for a new cartoon series or for further direct-to-DVD movies?

    If "I had the power" and "position" that is what I'd personally be looking at doing in the near future.

    It would also be a GREAT chance to test the water first, before committing to another multi-million dollar live-action movie...

    Fellow fans on .org have recently chatted (myself included) about a proposed MVP Secret of the Sword remake movie, which would definitely be cool, but realistically probably too much time has passed since the cartoon was on tv, in production and fresh in ppls minds...

    Mattel themselves are keen to move forward from the recent 200x reboot...

    Also worried that all the established mythos which new fans would have to digest might "alienate" them...unless of cause it was made purely for the fans, but then the problem remains that their are a lot of MOTU fans who don't like the 200x re-imaging (I personally do, but there you go)...

    So I don't see this happening...

    If a reboot movie worked, then (as I said not too long ago), a remake of Secret of the Sword could definitely work as a follow-up sequel...be it the second, third, fourth or sixth addition to the series of either cinema released live-action flicks or direct-to-dvd animated movies..
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    It has been awfully quiet on the MOTU movie front. Like someone else wrote, I don't want a movie just for a movie's sake unless it was well conceived. I sure hope we get some media out of this like at least a direct to DVD movie, a new cartoon series or at least a comic book or graphic novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogster View Post
    It has been awfully quiet on the MOTU movie front. Like someone else wrote, I don't want a movie just for a movie's sake unless it was well conceived. I sure hope we get some media out of this like at least a direct to DVD movie, a new cartoon series or at least a comic book or graphic novel.
    I hear ya! If we are talking comic book or graphic novel, then yet another idea (and this would cost a lot less than producing full animation) would be produce a new direct-to-dvd movie or mini-series, which is a motion comic similar to what they did in '08 with the Watchman motion comic.

    It could be a motion adaption of the original comic series or something new...and it would only require ONE voice actor...

    So really, there are a lot of things that they "could" do...IMO, I would personally want something visual and with motion...something I can chuck in the DVD player and watch...here's hoping...
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    I don't think a live action movie is going to happen. I don't think the studio is willing to spend $$$ on it. I think our best hope would be a new animated series on TV or motion capture film. It's the cheapest route without losing the epic feel of what MOTU needs to be.
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    This is starting to remind me of a certain video game that has been in the making for YEARS now.. but it's finally getting released! I still have the reservation stub from when it was first announced.. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I have a belief that MOTU will have a slow G.I. Joe-like rebirth. It'll gain slow momentum over time, but eventually it'll be back among the other big boy toy franchises with comic books, video games, novels, movies, cartoons and retail toys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
    Why does it need new lease on life when it is ALIVE AND WELL already?
    Well it is alive, but not alive enough and certainly not well. A small online exclusive line has extreme limitations and a lot of us are fans of the other media -- such as a cartoon series -- that would come with the property being more popular.

    Then again, properties like Transformers and GI Joe never received a live action movie in the 80s like we did. One has to wonder if the 1987 MOTU movie would have done better if they had stuck with David Odell's original script which showed he actually knew the property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheShadow View Post
    Well it is alive, but not alive enough and certainly not well. A small online exclusive line has extreme limitations and a lot of us are fans of the other media -- such as a cartoon series -- that would come with the property being more popular.
    My sentiments exactly. Yes, He-Man is still around, but I wouldn't say he's back. I've told quite a few people of the Classics line and they knew nothing about it until I told them. I'm sure there's plenty more where they came from.

    As for me personally I'm not that much of a toy collector anymore. I've always been more invested in the actual world, characters and mythology of MOTU more than the actual figures. It’s the perfect blend of sci-fi and fantasy that gets me. Any kind of story and artistic material would do me, whether it be a movie, animated show or comic series. Of course, because I'm greedy, I want all three!

    And I will get them.

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    I never imagined that we were going to have a current collection of our old motu at this point in our lives and communicate with people around the world and share this passion and have a motu site like this, we should be happy about that, this is really great.

    of course we want more (movie, cartoon, comics) and I think we will have all those things but we value what we have

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