DC Reboots Universe.

**midor** · June 9, 2011, 05:15pm

I'm basing this list off of offical announcements . No probables. no rumored, most likelies or I was reading over at.......

JLA
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Flash
Fury of Firestorm(5)
Hawkman
Green Arrow
JLI
Mr Terrific
Captain Atom (10)
DC Universe Presents
GL
GL Corps
GL:The New Guardians
Red Lanterns (15)
Batman
Detective Comics
Batman & Robin
Batman: Dark Knight
Birds of Prey (20)
Batgirl
Catwoman
Batwing
Batwoman
Red Hood and The Outlaws (25)
Nightwing
Animal Man
Swamp Thing
Resurrection Man
Demon Knights (30)
Justice League Dark
Frankenstein, Agent of Shade
VooDoo
I, Vampire
Legion Lost (35)
Legion of Superheroes
Teen Titans
Static Shock
Hawk And Dove
Stormwatch (40)
Blackhawks
Sgt Rock And The Men of War
All-Star Western
Deathstroke
Grifter (45)
OMAC (46)

adding to the list
Blue Beetle (spanish kid) (47)
Suicide Squad (48)

**BCI Guy** · June 9, 2011, 06:20pm

Suicide Squad: Harley, (King Shark (who I guess is now a hammerhead) and Deadshot.

Apparently modesty is not a costume requirement.

And I absolutely hate Deadshot's costume. But then I've always loved his look.

**MegaGearMax** · June 9, 2011, 06:36pm

What the hell happened to Harley Quinn?!!!

Sgt. Rock is modern now?!
J'onn is part of the Authority/Stormwatch?

Uncanny X-Men just got canceled. Another reason to hate Quesada.
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The Super Books revealed!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/09/dc-relaunch-a-brand-new-look-for-superman-supergirl-and-superboy/

**Sandman** · June 9, 2011, 06:48pm

Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Sgt. Rock is modern now?!
J'onn is part of the Authority/Stormwatch?

According to the solicit, this is a descendant of the legendary war hero in modern times.

And technically the Stormwatch solicit doesn't say either way. I'm still horrified by the integration of Wildstorm onto the main DC earth (which was QUITE crowded enough already).

**MegaGearMax** · June 9, 2011, 06:53pm

Why does SUPERMAN need kneepads? It's even more crazier, because Supergirl's costume goes to all the trouble of having bare knees.

Even George Perez can't make a turd look edible.

**markatisu** · June 9, 2011, 06:55pm

Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Why does SUPERMAN need kneepads?

Even George Perez can't make a turd look edible.

Not to mention what looks like calf armor on the pants lol

I really like the Supergirl cover though, don't know what to make of Superboy

**BCI Guy** · June 9, 2011, 06:57pm

Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

The Super Books revealed!

They were also revealed in post #197.

**guitargod694** · June 9, 2011, 06:58pm

Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Uncanny X-Men just got canceled. Another reason to hate Quesada.

I dunno about hating JoeyQ for it (I don't really even know what he's in charge of these days)... but I do hate the decision.

Too many titles being canceled/relaunched/renumbered.
Just leave it alone, man...
The short term gains really aren't worth it, IMO.
Clearly comic publishers feel differently, but I really think they're playing a game of diminishing returns that is quickly losing steam.
I'm sure there will be a fresh, new Uncanny X-Men #1 in October.

**gbagok** · June 9, 2011, 07:05pm

So is Superboy getting the same Matrix treatment that Supergirl had in the late 80's early 90's? Looks like they're trying to be too weird with him there.

I cannot believe they've removed Superman's red shorts. What a boring look he has now.

Tim Drake's costume is interesting though. Not sure about the wings, but he stands out the most to me.

I think they are playing around too much with Harley. She doesn't look like herself much.

**guitargod694** · June 9, 2011, 07:14pm

I'm guessing Suicide Squad means I can say bye-bye to Secret Six?
I was already expecting as much with Gail writing a couple of these new titles,
but it makes me sad.

**BCI Guy** · June 9, 2011, 07:19pm

Originally Posted by gbagok

Tim Drake's costume is interesting though. Not sure about the wings, but he stands out the most to me.

I think I kind of like the wings - and the basic costume I think is nice. I just hate all the 90s straps and excessive pouches and all the other crap that junks up what could be a slick design.

The Image guys just can't do simple. Everything has to be so overdesigned and overloaded with stuff. Its like they take the same approach to designing costumes that they take to drawing. In their art, every surface needs to have a million little "detail" lines, and similarly their costumes can't have any sections that are just plain. Everything has to have some kind of extra adornment.

**Wonderboy_JMB** · June 9, 2011, 07:26pm

By my tally, we've HIT 52:
1. Justice League of America
2. Action Comics
3. Detective Comics
4. Wonder Woman
5. Aquaman
6. Green Lantern
7. GL Corps
8. GL: New Guardians
9. Red Lanterns
10. Green Arrow
11. Hawkman
12. Flash
13. Captain Atom
14. DC Universe Presents
15. Nightwing
16. Batgirl
17. Justice League International
18. Mr. Terrific
19. Justice Society of America
20. Firestorm
21. Teen Titans
22. Birds of Prey
23. Batman
24. Batman: The Dark Knight
25. Batman & Robin
26. Nightwing
27. Red Hood & The Outlaws
28. Catwoman
29. Batwoman
30. Batwing
31. Swamp Thing
32. Animal Man
33. Demon Knights
34. Frankenstein
35. I, Vampire
36. Resurrection Man
37. Justice League Dark
38. Voodoo
39. Legion of Super Heroes
40. Legion Lost
41. Teen Titans
42. Static Shock
43. Hawk & Dove
44. Suicide Squad
45. Deathstroke
46. Grifter
47. The Authority
48. Blackhawks
49. Sgt. Rock
50. All Star Western
51. OMAC
52. Blue Beetle

What about Superman and Supergirl? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

**gbagok** · June 9, 2011, 07:27pm

Originally Posted by BCI Guy

I think I kind of like the wings - and the basic costume I think is nice. I just hate all the 90s straps and excessive pouches and all the other crap that junks up what could be a slick design.

Oh I agree, but I can't tell if those will function like "real" wings or more like a cape made out of blades. I'm not a fan of pouches either. I think maybe the costume could get streamlined later and lose all the unnecessary details.

**Wonderboy_JMB** · June 9, 2011, 07:36pm

Originally Posted by BCI Guy

I hate the Perez Superman costume - especially the boots. I love George Perez, he represents everything that wasgood about the 80s. But IMO, costume design has never been a strong suit of his (although this could very well be Jim Lee's design).

I think it's a Jim Lee design, because of the metal... calf covers... whatever those are. It's very similar to Huntress' boots when he redesigned her. Perez tends to get very detailed in his design, but Lee gets "fussy." The extraneous and inexplicable detailing on the top make me think Lee as those seems don't seem to serve any purpose.

The designs of Superman and Supergirl seem to be by different people, though, as Supergirl still has the classic V in the front of her boots and Superman doesn't. I hate the point at the top of his.

I kinda like the Supergirl costume overall, minus the priest collar and the knee cut-outs.

**guitargod694** · June 9, 2011, 07:44pm

Originally Posted by Wonderboy_JMB

I think it's a Jim Lee design, because of the metal... calf covers... whatever those are. It's very similar to Huntress' boots when he redesigned her. Perez tends to get very detailed in his design, but Lee gets "fussy." The extraneous and inexplicable detailing on the top make me think Lee as those seems don't seem to serve any purpose.

The designs of Superman and Supergirl seem to be by different people, though, as Supergirl still has the classic V in the front of her boots and Superman doesn't. I hate the point at the top of his.

I kinda like the Supergirl costume overall, minus the priest collar and the knee cut-outs.

Yeah, I think the Superman design is Lee's...

And agreed about the knee cut-outs... what's the point in that?
Superman needs knee pads, but Supergirl is deliberate uncovering her knees?

**Wonderboy_JMB** · June 9, 2011, 07:45pm

Originally Posted by guitargod694

Yeah, I think the Superman design is Lee's...

And agreed about the knee cut-outs... what's the point in that?
Superman needs knee pads, but Supergirl is deliberate uncovering her knees?

I completely agree! It's incongruous! Or maybe Supergirl is just tougher!

**midor** · June 9, 2011, 07:48pm

Originally Posted by Wonderboy_JMB

By my tally, we've HIT 52:
1. Justice League of America
2. Action Comics
3. Detective Comics
4. Wonder Woman
5. Aquaman
6. Green Lantern
7. GL Corps
8. GL: New Guardians
9. Red Lanterns
10. Green Arrow
11. Hawkman
12. Flash
13. Captain Atom
14. DC Universe Presents
15. Nightwing
16. Batgirl
17. Justice League International
18. Mr. Terrific
19. Justice Society of America
20. Firestorm
21. Teen Titans
22. Birds of Prey
23. Batman
24. Batman: The Dark Knight
25. Batman & Robin
26. Nightwing
27. Red Hood & The Outlaws
28. Catwoman
29. Batwoman
30. Batwing
31. Swamp Thing
32. Animal Man
33. Demon Knights
34. Frankenstein
35. I, Vampire
36. Resurrection Man
37. Justice League Dark
38. Voodoo
39. Legion of Super Heroes
40. Legion Lost
41. Teen Titans
42. Static Shock
43. Hawk & Dove
44. Suicide Squad
45. Deathstroke
46. Grifter
47. The Authority
48. Blackhawks
49. Sgt. Rock
50. All Star Western
51. OMAC
52. Blue Beetle

What about Superman and Supergirl? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

No official announcement on JSA and Authority

Superman titles will come tomorrow. Nothing offical

Subtract one of the two Nightwings you have.

so. subtract:Jsa, authority, action comics & one of the nightwings and you get 48.

**markatisu** · June 9, 2011, 07:51pm

Originally Posted by guitargod694

Superman needs knee pads, but Supergirl is deliberate uncovering her knees?

She is using her power of sexy to take you out

**BCI Guy** · June 9, 2011, 07:51pm

Originally Posted by Wonderboy_JMB

I kinda like the Supergirl costume overall, minus the priest collar and the knee cut-outs.

I don't like the knee cutouts, and I think the red "crotch patch" is weird... But I kind of like the collar. It strikes me as maybe being Kryptonian.

**guitargod694** · June 9, 2011, 07:54pm

Originally Posted by markatisu

She is using her power of sexy to take you out

Haha, distracting villains with her sensual knees.

More like confusing them with her weird boots.

And yeah, the red crotch-patch-area-thing is weird.
But I haven't really seen any of these "redesigns" that I consider a clear improvement.
Some of them aren't bad... but none that I thought "yes, that is much better".
*shrugs*

**markatisu** · June 9, 2011, 08:31pm

Originally Posted by guitargod694

And yeah, the red crotch-patch-area-thing is weird.
But I haven't really seen any of these "redesigns" that I consider a clear improvement.
Some of them aren't bad... but none that I thought "yes, that is much better".
*shrugs*

I think Deathstroke looked pretty bad ass but they did not do much to change him

**BCI Guy** · June 9, 2011, 08:57pm

Originally Posted by guitargod694

H
But I haven't really seen any of these "redesigns" that I consider a clear improvement.
Some of them aren't bad... but none that I thought "yes, that is much better".
*shrugs*

Yup. And not one of them has any kind of "timeless" quality like so many of the costumes from the past.

**markatisu** · June 9, 2011, 09:13pm

Originally Posted by BCI Guy

Yup. And not one of them has any kind of "timeless" quality like so many of the costumes from the past.

Not unless 1993 is timeless

**BCI Guy** · June 9, 2011, 09:17pm

Originally Posted by markatisu

Not unless 1993 is timeless

They were dated in 1993...

**TheFallen** · June 9, 2011, 09:25pm

Originally Posted by guitargod694

I'm guessing Suicide Squad means I can say bye-bye to Secret Six?
I was already expecting as much with Gail writing a couple of these new titles,
but it makes me sad.

With all the changes this is my exact feelings aswell. Secret Six is my favourite DC book.

I only read a small handful of DC, I am more a Marvel guy, but this teboot/retcon is right up my alley to jump on some other titles. However, if it is only for a short time before going back to the way it is now then I will probably jump off again

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